YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL COUNTDOWN, SUCKA (CLICK FOR A RECAP)

Damn right. YOB come in that category too, but Celtic Frost must be one of the best known bands to come back with such a great album.

Yob - 4 year break

Celtic Frost - 16 year break

Big difference.

ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI AND SHE WOULDN'T GIVEITTOME!

Aw we introduced my nephew to this song (he's a burgeoning metaller but mostly just like stuff like Cannibal Corpse) and he loves it.

You know, I totally agree with Hi Dere's opinion on people moaning about this poll, but somehow I am compelled to turn on myself and whinge about the fact that fucking Bomber by Motorhead isn't even in the top 300 metal/hard rock albums. How is that possible?

I didn't vote for it either, but I was surprised it missed out. There's some big albums between 300-500. But i had enough difficulty persuading people to go with a 300.

Check it out folks https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Album+Winners

That zero Scorpions albums made the list is appalling. My biggest shake of the head over that - closest was In Trance at 315th. Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous at 405 is also a head slapper.

Shoulda let me do a 500 then!

What do you think of the albums that finished last though?

302 -315 were really unlucky, 1 last place vote for any of them and they would have made it.

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i'm a bit intrigued by this tbh:

I have one friend who has a pretty good black metal collection of a few hundred albums, and he doesn't like any by Darkthrone as far as I know. I've heard some bits, nothing compelling enough to convince me to check them out more thoroughly. He also doesn't like Ulver, but I do like their recent one enough to be curious about their earlier ones.

Can you get a list of what your friend does like? Would like to know what a black metal fan who doesn't like Darkthrone listens to

dummy burger?

Damn, Scorpions were cheated on my poll too. Now they're gonna break up.

You know I've never really seen much love for Scorpions round here, the poll on their albums didn't get many votes. I think most only know them through that vile ballad.

I think most only know them through that vile ballad.

I'd argue that "Rock You Like a Hurricane" has permeated pop culture far deeper than "Winds of Change" (and rightfully so).

Hey, I slung good points that vile ballad's way - cultural touchstone imo

you deserve to be rated #1 false :P

he paid the cost to be the boss.

Heh, this countdown would've spilled over into murder without populist ballots from my kind

there would be less complaints if people (old farts) who refuse to listen to post 1990 music actually did so, and the kiddies who only listen to post 1990 music checked out old stuff. There's great stuff in all eras.
If you haven't kept up with music for the last 20 years, don't be surprised if your tastes aren't reflected!

there would also be a lot less shit-talking if people (u know who u are) were willing to actually listen to shit before dumping on it. free your mind...etc.

Metal went a different direction, I didn't. Why did a completely unnatural cookie monster growl become the vocal choice of so many bands? Why did songs get spread out to 10 and 15 minutes long? Why did everything have to become so EXTREME?

I don't care if I sound old. That shit is ridiculous.

maybe, but not all modern metal worships the cookie.

yeah check out the top 300 folks over time. I'm even gonna check out the grind,dm (and bm i dont know.) I want to see why people rave about stuff. I'll even listen to Scorpions!

im ever so glad i stuck to my guns over the 300. it meant more genres got covered and people were pleased that some stuff got in even at 290 something.
albums got in the spotlight, ppl checked em out that wouldnt have happened. i enjoyed that part more than the top 100 tbh.

Biggest shocks for me was Boris - Pink & Metallica - Metallica not making it.

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Sure, but there's by and large no levity in metal anymore. It's all super serious. xp

At least dudes like Fu Manchu and Hellacopters (r.i.p.) still had a good time and let it show.

Johnny, slough feg & co dont do cookie monster vox, there's loads of trad doom with no growling. There's the big thrash revivalist bands over the last 3 or 4 years. Probably the biggest "development" in recent years, sells more than doom bands and BM/DM.

I love the idea that Alestorm are super serious.

yeah those pirate and battle metal bands are not something I'd call serious.

Okay, maybe Alestorm aren't serious, but they also suck.

i agree with that

levity in metal does seem to have gone the way of the dinosaur tho, tr00.

xps

There's all kinds of metal out there, you dig for it then come on ILM and rep for it on the rolling metal thread!

btw that discussion upthread just before the top 10, on burzum, was terrific!

Varg always guaranteed to bring the best out of ilx. t/f?

not usually, but that really was good stuff.

It kinda got stopped/lost in that other crap.

i wanna see the piece mordy wrote on the subject.

FWIW, I have a hard time taking the cookie monster stuff seriously, even compared to the ridiculous operatic bent of Iron Maiden, Dio, Priest, et a. I mean, I love the latter, but sort of as a guilty pleasure that transcends its silliness. The cookie monster stuff is so, so serious, so much of the time, that my own reaction to it is so at odds with its self-seriousness that it sort of cancels out the music (see also: corpse paint). That's why I've always dug Opeth, who split the difference with singing and cookie, but Opeth kind of got hosed here. In a way Hetfield is a happy vocal medium as well. He sings, but he sings like a bark. No shrieking highs, no growly lows.

Anyone would think this poll was 100 % cookie monster vox!

The cookie monster quotient has got to be pretty high, though, right?

But it's relative, as in the last 20 years those styles have got more popular. But cookie monster vox only apply to death metal. Black Metal vox are different (more vampiric whispers I've heard people describe it), doom has clean singing as well as anguished howls/screams. Khanate style vox are different from DM/BM for instance. But I would really need to leave that to people with more technical know-how (like smithy, who will be lurking! but not posting). Dan knows about technicality but wont know these genres really.
anyone else want to explain the difference?

Johnny, slough feg & co dont do cookie monster vox, there's loads of trad doom with no growling. There's the big thrash revivalist bands over the last 3 or 4 years. Probably the biggest "development" in recent years, sells more than doom bands and BM/DM.

OK, good points but this highlights my problem with metal these days, that it's splintered off into insane amounts of sub-genres which bands seemingly have to ally themselves to if they want to get heard. When I was into it in the early 80s most metallers were into most of the popular bands (although obv. some people into Sabbath weren't into Kiss or whatever), and yes I know that time moves on and every genre goes this way and I'm an old fart, BUT it all seems a bit restrictive to me.

I realise a lot of this is just personal taste btw, and essentially things may be no different in some ways to the NWOBHM era, and could be more to do with me being 42 now.

problem is, there are no huge Metallica/Priest/Sabbath-caliber bands to get people a-wonderin' "what's up?" anymore. blame mtv?

because MTV doesn't play music anymore?

word.

how big would Mastodon, say, be if their last record had gotten a big push on mtv oldstyle?

mtv was shit anyway

maybe, but they got the word out. first time i ever heard Nirvana, for instance...you guessed it...SLTS on mtv '91.