YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL COUNTDOWN, SUCKA (CLICK FOR A RECAP)

but yeah Burzum and Darkthrone you'll be wanting to avoid, Dan

i had to google the lyrics for that JA song, been a while since i heard that album. Some good stuff on it but yeah, that song.

I think darkthrone have denied being racists/nazis too fwiw

I love that this poll is so fucked that we have to determine which bands are racists and which aren't.

fwiw this is why I don't really pay attention to metal, even though apparently half of my musical predilections fall into that category

I did not pay a cent for my copy of Transylvanian Hunger and I have no idea what they're saying.

really not that many 'good' metal bands are racist - the ones that are receive lots of attention

I have one friend who has a pretty good black metal collection of a few hundred albums, and he doesn't like any by Darkthrone as far as I know. I've heard some bits, nothing compelling enough to convince me to check them out more thoroughly. He also doesn't like Ulver, but I do like their recent one enough to be curious about their earlier ones.

I've read plenty of Enslaved interviews. They're intelligent, enlightened guys who are not remotely racist.

no other genre screams "white music for white people" as much as metal, particularly when talking about the extreme subgenres (I still maintain that all of the original metal albums are hard rock as I don't really see any direct link between the Black Sabbath I know and the Iron Maiden I know)

any genre of music has racist or sexist or homophobic or plain old bigots. metal is no worse than others.

really not that many 'good' metal bands are racist - the ones that are receive lots of attention

Implication that more bad ones are?

Polka's pretty white-for-whites.

16 Sleep · Dopesmoker (released 2003) (860 Points, 25 votes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/3/0/9/23096.jpg

any genre of music has racist or sexist or homophobic or plain old bigots. metal is no worse than others.

Betting it's worse than disco

Sleep = properly named band.

lol, googling "racist dance music" just brings up Das Racist and Mia Michaels

Am feeling pretty bad now - got my wires completely crossed about Enslaved to the extent to which they seem like the sort of band I'd really dig - really, really hating on whomever suggested they might be racist.

googling "racist hip-hop" is simultaneously totally expected and really, really confusing

http://hiphopwired.com/2010/04/07/man-slashes-dog-for-being-racist/

LJ have you heard Cynic?

btw Dan, I know you mentioned in the past, one of the reasons you hated metal was because of the people at your school who liked it (and why you were wary of jj at first), but were they into thrash stuff like slayer/anthrax/metallica/megadeth, hair/glam metal or iron maiden/priest stuff?

yes

all three of those styles were what 80% of the school listened to

not heard Cynic

the other 20% liked top-40 radio and country

that's what i was asking, which of the 3. But i guess it was all 3 then

really, really hating on whomever suggested they might be racist.

Bog blast them, to quote Geezer Butler

(I still maintain that all of the original metal albums are hard rock as I don't really see any direct link between the Black Sabbath I know and the Iron Maiden I know).

Did you vote in that poll? Either way, what would you vote for?

I remember the day I came to the realization that people my own age listened to country music. Up until then, I thought it was just my grandmother's music. When someone mentioned buying the new Randy Travis album, I thought they were completely kidding. And I was going to school in Alabama!

what hair metal was jj into before he got into heavier stuff?

LJ you might really like their recent album 'traced in air'

it's kinda more prog than metal though i suppose

neat, will follow that up

have YOU heard Animals As Leaders? Best metal album of 2009

would strongly recommend AAL to Dan, actually - really melodically intricate and arresting, the only thing he might baulk at is the lack of vocals

15 Kyuss · Blues for the Red Sun (1992) (863 Points, 24 votes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/6/1/2/2612.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/7wXj8GxTkGAUU99DXR7n2f

I have this ^ in a box somewhere, but I haven't listened to it in 10 or 12 years.

a very important album, esp to ppl of my age

top 20 not going the way lj predicted btw

bill & ez snappin still in a huff otherwise

If you say so. xps

Sleep-Kyuss is a fantastic 1-2 punch going into the top fifteen.

are 15 min intervals between albums too fast btw?

keep at it

14 Mayhem · De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (1994) (890 Points, 21 votes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/5/4/254.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4AkjhNjVvEYXoHeP2ZczlG

Hahaha

oops that got ONE #1 vote

hilarious.

next?

Aldo what do you think of the poll?

Did you vote in that poll? Either way, what would you vote for?

I didn't vote in the "first metal album" poll because no one has ever actually explained to my satisfaction what metal is, so I couldn't decide what the first metal album was.

what hair metal was jj into before he got into heavier stuff?

lol afaik he was always into heavier stuff; we bonded over Anthrax shortly after we first met

The bands represented here that I voted for from the 70s/80s are bands that made it into my house via my older brothers and father (Aerosmith, Rush, Led Zepplin) or bands that my close friends turned me on to (Iron Maiden, Anthrax). Most of the kids in my school, due to the time period and to where we were, had WEIRD ideas about race and most of them spanned the gamut of albums represented on this poll (possibly not the most extreme end of things but that is likely because they didn't know it existed). Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest (btw never had a problem with JP, just didn't care one way or the other), Bon Jovi, Poison, Winger, Skid Row, Ratt, Twisted Sister, Scorpions, Cinderella, Dokken, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Aerosmith, Rush, Megadeth, AC/DC... all of these bands were very, very popular with a lot of kids.

would strongly recommend AAL to Dan, actually - really melodically intricate and arresting, the only thing he might baulk at is the lack of vocals

yeah, the dude who spent the years from 1994 through 2000 listening primarily to techno/rave/acid/dnb is REALLY gonna have a problem with instrumental music

mayhem are awesome for srs

have you enjoyed being wrong as usual, lj?