OINK Probs???

That BBC report clip on youtube is worth watching for the montage of file footage on music piracy that includes napster, winamp, and a sound clip of 'the real slim shady.'

"The Day The Free Music Died" will be one headline.

Moo me, UK

oink.justgotowned.com

now that we have this we don't need any other music anyway

http://rawkblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/critical-backlash-why-we-need-oink.html

oh god.

im grieving oink as much as the next guy, but fuck. what should we expect from a blog called "The Rawking Refuses To Stop!" though.

FACT: that article is naive

i could never get an invite, so i'm glad the fuckers went down

fuck, i was going to DL like 3 gigs today for a dj set this week.

and i had just made power user ;_;

A stolen candybar is not a lost sale. The kids with the most candy are hoarding them because they can, not because they're trying to save money on paying for candy. No one is ever going to go out and buy 5-10 snickers bars a week, but that's about how many a good chunk of us download.

i wish i could illegally download a corporate milky way right now

No one is ever going to go out and buy 5-10 snickers bars a week

RONG.

snickers-breath

<i>Along with every other indie college kid, 90% of the shows I go to I wouldn't of gone to if I didn't d/l the album. 90% of the albums I buy I wouldn't have bought if I hadn't downloaded them prior.</i>

!! 'cos no-one went to shows or bought records before oink was invented!

Limited edition OiNK Snickers bar:

http://www.slashfood.com/media/2007/02/snickersbacon.jpg

Home killing is, er, in Soviet Russia, er, oh, nevermind.

!! 'cos no-one went to shows or bought records before oink was invented!

doesn't mean it isn't true? i haven't read the article, but just because college kids went to shows without having downloaded the album 20 years ago doesn't mean they still do

i could never get an invite, so i'm glad the fuckers went down

-- mitya, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:56 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ this. Oink Administrator burned me.

opinion piece on oink from dj rupture

"Word is the Danish branch of the IFPI has "seriously proposed" allowing peer-to-peer downloading in exchange for a small monthly fee charged to all ISP users."

http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/music_industry.html

???

(via Coolfer)

DJ Rupture OTM. Especially about digital music having to be talked about in commons analogies now. No scarcity=no money, basically.

i would pay a small monthly fee to the danish branch of the IFPI to use oink.

i would pay a small monthly fee to all of this white girls

^^also.

don't look now, but indietorrents appears to have gone into hiding.

has dj spooky weighed in yet

or dj martian

hypothetical question cos I'm not very smart with this stuff: if you download but piggyback your wireless, do you technically not have your own isp and therefore potentially get others (you're borrowing bandwidth from) into trouble?

<i>Aside: If Radiohead (the British rock band who achieved worldwide success via a long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a major record label) were truly radical, they would have posted their new album as a BitTorrent file with a PayPal & bank account link for the fans who felt like paying. Not hosting it on some weird website with an awkward interface & requiring credit card info…</i>

Uh huh...

hypothetical question cos I'm not very smart with this stuff: if you download but piggyback your wireless, do you technically not have your own isp and therefore potentially get others (you're borrowing bandwidth from) into trouble?

-- paulhw, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol in the uk i think people have been prosecuted for stealing wifi.

they could 'piggyback' piracy + wireless theft rofl

on the flip side, people used having wifi as a way out of being prosecuted for a while, since the downloading could theoretically have been done by anyone in the vicinity

in that case i'm golden.

it doesn't work anymore

ho-hum.

so hands up who re-downloaded soulseex tonite

http://enjoys.it/2007/10/23/some-facts-and-some-rumors-about-the-oink-takedown/

that 'they've never done it before' is ironclad logic

if one more person brings up radiohead in the context of oink i'm gonna scream. HELLO THEY ARE PUTTING OUT THEIR CD VIA A REGULAR LABEL. THE NEW MODEL IN ACTION GUYS.

LOL U SCREAMIN RIGHT NOW!!!

lol

When is the regular label CD version of In Rainbows coming out?

early next year, reportedly via ato (dave matthews label) in the states and xl internationally

That's ages away. Donation download is the primary medium in the first few months of release. I don't see how them releasing a regular CD eventually negates it being a new model. Especially if they don't take down the download option once the CD is released (are they going to?). I can't see a problem with linking the two things, maura. Certainly not enough to make you scream!

can we unban mickey just for this thread? its not the same without him.

<i>Aside: If Radiohead (the British rock band who achieved worldwide success via a long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a major record label) were truly radical, they would have posted their new album as a BitTorrent file with a PayPal & bank account link for the fans who felt like paying. Not hosting it on some weird website with an awkward interface & requiring credit card info…</i>

Uh huh...

-- Eppy, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 06:54 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

I tried to buy it through the website (using Linux and Firefox) and couldn't. I tried really hard too. No other website gives that much grief.

yeah i slskd that shit, the website was all kinds of slow

gr8080 OTM.

u didn't need 2 give radiohead cc info unless u wanted to.

i have a spare, unlistened, set of mp3s of 'in rainbows' if anyone wants them.

hahahaha