Killing Joke - Classic Or Dud, Search And Destroy

Tom chirped: "And is it just me or are they not anywhere near as heavy-sounding as they're made out to be." I dare say that without
Killing Joke, most of your precious "heavy sounding" bands wouldn't even exist. Killing Joke have indulged in a myriad of different
musical styles and sounds well beyond the monochromatic "heavy," yet when they choose to go that route, there is no one mightier.
To judge Killing Joke by one or two tracks is an excercise in blind-sighted stupidity. Do your homework before submitting an
opinion! Moreover, if you're put off by the conceptual/lyrical content of Killing Joke, why not toddle home and slap on a Pixies or
Cheap Trick album and celebrate the meaningless and banal. At least Killing Joke have something to say. You may not like it, agree
with it...or even understand it....but at least there something of substance there. Killing Joke credit their audience with higher
standards and a modicum of intelligence. Try getting that from Korn.

note: i agree that Big Black owe A LOT to KJ.

These bands weren't predecessors of Killing Joke, they were peers.

i find it extremly hard to beleave that Jaz Dosen't even Like New Order, what about their synth rock/pop tracks? they weren't the first.

Whoever said the Joke don't like New Order? Jaz has gone on record a few times saying Joy Division were one of the few of their fellow bands he actually liked and respected. Moreover, Peter Hook actually filled in on bass detail for Killing Joke for a very brief spell.

shur they were inspirational!

Awfully big of you.

... but i don't see them as the most inspirational Post Punk band.

Who said they were? My point, however, is that they don't get the recognition they rightfully deserve.

There were lots of Post punk bands that were far more inspirational for the "heavy sound" today than KJ, doesn't anyone see that?

Post-Punk in itself wasn't exactly a wellspring of 'heavy,' though. The Joke paired the fresher, spartan approach of what was turning into "post-punk" and paired it with a heavier sound that owed more to the more conventional Punk Rock and Metal before it. I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke. Gang of Four? No. Joy Division? Not quite. Public Image Ltd.? No.

"I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke"
i woun't argue with you on who's heavier, but just trieng to slagg of someone with a different opinion then you is revoulting.

hahaha yeah, sorry for getting carried away there.

And I'd still disagree with you about the Birthday Party being "heavier" (which is in absolutely no way to disparage the Birthday Party). I'm merely speaking of these two bands' respective sounds. The Birthday Party's rather brooding demeanor may rival Killing Joke's, but their literal sonic output doesn't match the sheer weight and brute force of the Joke's.

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In any event, here's a shot of Jaz with the Foo Fighters onstage recently in Auckland. HE LIVES!

http://www.foofighters.com/blackbox/pictures/2003_01_16_auckland/images/FF_2003_AUCKLAND_GALATOS0066.jpg

Ah, yes, Dave "Put Me In Your Band Please!!!" Grohl. What the hell? Does he go thru cash MC Hammer-style or something?

What is there to like about New Order? Apart from their name, obviously.

Personally, I fuckin' love New Order, but y'know....whatever.

The wife's favorite song of theirs, actually.

'My Love of this Land' was a great single.

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So that'll be my special limited edition original 1980 cassette version devalued by about 99% then!

ME BIG HAPPY!

Forgot to say thanks for this. I've now read I think every article they've got on both of those.
It's certainly put a new spin on the music for me.

Great to see how their behaviour in interviews has evolved over the years and how they, Jaz in particular, have changed.

Looks like there'll be a new album sort of soon too, which I'm equally aprehensive and excited about.

Regarding the new album, The Death & Resurrection Show, word `round the campfire is that Dave Grohl has completed recording the drums tracks for the new album, and they're currently being mixed by a gent named Clive Goddard.

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Alex, it says that Fugazi have covered KJ, do you know what/when/where?

But this thread made me greatly miss my Killing Joke T-shirt, which I wore until there was nothing left of it to wear. That was like the best damn T-shirt I ever had, the Daisy Buchanan of my T-shirts.

Yeah, I saw that too. I think it's a mistake. The bands I'm aware of who have attempted to cover the Joke (usually with shite results) are: Metallica ("The Wait"), Foo Fighters ("Requiem"), Icehouse ("Love Like Blood"), Helmet ("Complications"), Godflesh ("Requiem"), Amen ("Europe"), the Mad Capsule Markets ("Wardance"), Love like Blood (lamentable Goth band take who not only butchered the song, but sullied its good name by adopting it as their moniker). I've heard rumours that Sarah McLachlan covered "Love Like Blood" live, but I've never heard it.

On a different point, I wonder what ol' Courtney Love has to say now that Grohl has gone public about working with the Joke.