^^^this is what i've looked like all day.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link
also BanIronPrison.
That BBC report clip on youtube is worth watching for the montage of file footage on music piracy that includes napster, winamp, and a sound clip of 'the real slim shady.'
― mh, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"The Day The Free Music Died" will be one headline.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Moo me, UK
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
oink.justgotowned.com
now that we have this we don't need any other music anyway
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
http://rawkblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/critical-backlash-why-we-need-oink.html
― StanM, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
oh god.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link
im grieving oink as much as the next guy, but fuck. what should we expect from a blog called "The Rawking Refuses To Stop!" though.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
FACT: that article is naive
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
i could never get an invite, so i'm glad the fuckers went down
― mitya, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
fuck, i was going to DL like 3 gigs today for a dj set this week.
and i had just made power user ;_;
― gr8080, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
A stolen candybar is not a lost sale. The kids with the most candy are hoarding them because they can, not because they're trying to save money on paying for candy. No one is ever going to go out and buy 5-10 snickers bars a week, but that's about how many a good chunk of us download.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
i wish i could illegally download a corporate milky way right now
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
No one is ever going to go out and buy 5-10 snickers bars a week
RONG.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
snickers-breath
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link
<i>Along with every other indie college kid, 90% of the shows I go to I wouldn't of gone to if I didn't d/l the album. 90% of the albums I buy I wouldn't have bought if I hadn't downloaded them prior.</i>
!! 'cos no-one went to shows or bought records before oink was invented!
― byebyepride, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Limited edition OiNK Snickers bar:
http://www.slashfood.com/media/2007/02/snickersbacon.jpg
― StanM, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Home killing is, er, in Soviet Russia, er, oh, nevermind.
― StanM, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
doesn't mean it isn't true? i haven't read the article, but just because college kids went to shows without having downloaded the album 20 years ago doesn't mean they still do
― lucas pine, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
-- mitya, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:56 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
^^^ this. Oink Administrator burned me.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
opinion piece on oink from dj rupture
― lucas pine, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link
"Word is the Danish branch of the IFPI has "seriously proposed" allowing peer-to-peer downloading in exchange for a small monthly fee charged to all ISP users."
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/music_industry.html
???
(via Coolfer)
― StanM, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
DJ Rupture OTM. Especially about digital music having to be talked about in commons analogies now. No scarcity=no money, basically.
― stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i would pay a small monthly fee to the danish branch of the IFPI to use oink.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i would pay a small monthly fee to all of this white girls
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
^^also.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
don't look now, but indietorrents appears to have gone into hiding.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
has dj spooky weighed in yet
― am0n, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
or dj martian
― jeff, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
hypothetical question cos I'm not very smart with this stuff: if you download but piggyback your wireless, do you technically not have your own isp and therefore potentially get others (you're borrowing bandwidth from) into trouble?
― paulhw, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
<i>Aside: If Radiohead (the British rock band who achieved worldwide success via a long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a major record label) were truly radical, they would have posted their new album as a BitTorrent file with a PayPal & bank account link for the fans who felt like paying. Not hosting it on some weird website with an awkward interface & requiring credit card info…</i>
Uh huh...
― Eppy, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
-- paulhw, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
lol in the uk i think people have been prosecuted for stealing wifi.
they could 'piggyback' piracy + wireless theft rofl
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
on the flip side, people used having wifi as a way out of being prosecuted for a while, since the downloading could theoretically have been done by anyone in the vicinity
― lucas pine, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
in that case i'm golden.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
it doesn't work anymore
― lucas pine, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
ho-hum.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
so hands up who re-downloaded soulseex tonite
― ^@^, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
http://enjoys.it/2007/10/23/some-facts-and-some-rumors-about-the-oink-takedown/
― stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
that 'they've never done it before' is ironclad logic
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
if one more person brings up radiohead in the context of oink i'm gonna scream. HELLO THEY ARE PUTTING OUT THEIR CD VIA A REGULAR LABEL. THE NEW MODEL IN ACTION GUYS.
― maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
LOL U SCREAMIN RIGHT NOW!!!
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
lol
― maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
When is the regular label CD version of In Rainbows coming out?
― Alba, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
early next year, reportedly via ato (dave matthews label) in the states and xl internationally
― maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
That's ages away. Donation download is the primary medium in the first few months of release. I don't see how them releasing a regular CD eventually negates it being a new model. Especially if they don't take down the download option once the CD is released (are they going to?). I can't see a problem with linking the two things, maura. Certainly not enough to make you scream!
― Alba, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
can we unban mickey just for this thread? its not the same without him.
― gr8080, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Eppy, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 06:54 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
^^^
I tried to buy it through the website (using Linux and Firefox) and couldn't. I tried really hard too. No other website gives that much grief.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i slskd that shit, the website was all kinds of slow
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
gr8080 OTM.
― John Justen, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link