NYC ilxors: I am calling you out

dunno, i would probably consider going to something like this is I lived in the area. I don't really go to festivals, but the indoor/smaller aspect of this makes it pretty appealing. and whatevs, the bill is amazing. I can see getting burned out on loud/live music, but I can also see it being fun. how much do tickets cost anyway? $$$ would probably be the thing keeping me from going.

keep thinking about the "I AM HAVING A GOOD TIME" dance from delocated

avoid air conditioning in december in nyc if you can help it but that's just me

like I'm pretty sure 95% of the ppl in this thread would tell me its retarded to drop a grand and go out to England when I should be reading and cuddling and enjoying air-conditioning

― markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:24 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think you're confusing us judging you with you judging us.

like I'm pretty sure 95% of the ppl in this thread would tell me its retarded to drop a grand and go out to England when I should be reading and cuddling and enjoying air-conditioning

dude maybe you are into telling people what they do or don't have to do if they actually love music but imo if you would enjoy a festival & seein bands all day & all night you should 100% go! and have fun! it is awesome that your partner is into doin that too - I'm just sayin that the ability to tolerate whose unstinting days musical stimulation is not a yardstick for measuring how much a person loves music: not that a person for whom that sounds awesome loves music any less than the person who thinks "I like mine in smaller doses"

"whole unstinting days of musical stimulation" I meant to write

I wonder if i'll hear any Beatles

I do know that at ATP 2008, they played "Atlas" by Battles over the PA like 7,000 times

"cuddling and enjoying air conditioning" is so much fun in South Florida.

I'm pretty sure 95% of the people on this thread would shrug and say "it's not my money" and then go back to their air-conditioned cuddling with "The Snakepit" playing in the background

i'd choose reading over all other human activities save sleeping and eating, in that order.

jaymc, that was just one of the 57+ tournaments in the WSOP. The Main Event, #57, is the big one that gets shown on ESPN. Still, any WSOP cash is a good showing.

Ah, did not know this. But yeah, the dude is serious about his poker, as at least one ILXor I know who has sat at a table with him can attest.

It's only 84 in New York today. The obsession with air conditioning is about two weeks late.

I am not going to ATP. I could afford to. I appeal to Whiney for clemency on his evaluation of how much I care about music.

feel like whiney is def on some tom sawyer "painting fences is sooooo fun!!! can't believe you gusy aren't into it" tip here

― dyao, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:43 PM (2 hours ago)

hahaha

I appeal to Whiney for clemency on his evaluation of how much I care about music.

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Whiney I think you're the last over-25 standing who actually wants to see that many bands in a day no matter what bands they are

attending the Matt Groening UK ATP this year (that's a good excuse for not going to this one, yeah?) was my realisation that I am no longer as spry as I was in my teen years. Worth the back and shoulder pain, but still, OUCH.

i stopped going to gigs mostly because I had this little Whiney-esque voice inside telling me that OBVIOUSLY i had to be LOVING this because it was AMAZING and this was what LOVING MUSIC was about, and it was so exhausting to be constantly feeling like i was meant to be having an intense spiritual experience and losing myself in the music etc etc etc, when actually i what i was mostly feeling was bored/foot-achey.

^^^^ sorely overlooked deeply truthful post. this is a shitty feeling and although not necessarily a byproduct of going to festivals, is def linked to the process of listening to music/being stimulated too often/for too long. like sometimes when i get a day off from work or school i'm all "i'm gonna hang out and listen to records ALL DAY" but eventually you're just really sick of everything.

i'm young and would probably go to 5 shows a week if i could but i have never really seen a festival lineup and deeply moved enough to do it. this year's dna fest is maybe the closest so far, but then again like ugh a whole day of noisy garage bands? warped tour when i was like 13 ~ 14 was definitely some of the most fun shit of all time though. whiney i am infinitely jealous of you if you have as much fun at atp 2010 as i did as a kid at warped tour but it's probably impossible and would be possibly really embarassing

the key w/festivals is that it's not really about the line-up and definitely not about the headliners; a few acts you're enthusiastic about will do you, but it's always more about the unannounced djs on the bill and impromptu parties that pop up at night for me. at sónar this year i only went to the official sónar by night complex once in 4 nights - spent more time at random off-sónar parties in barcelona, boat parties &c.

Festivals are a drag and too fuckin' expensive.

I probably would have lived in the Oneida room if I'd gone to that ATP.
All my friends here in Missouri are bellyaching about ponying up 35 bones for the Flaming Lips/Ariel Pink show.
I paid fifty bucks to see Neil Young solo like ten years ago, I'll pay thirty five to see an act that I think put out one of the best records of the year and at least check out the headliner. If the Lips suck, fuck it. If Ariel Pink sucks, yeah, I will be really disappointed. We shall see.

yeah, i have a hard time paying more than $50 for a concert -- and even that is a stretch. I paid about that for Nick Cave a few yeras ago ... whenever i see these $50-60-100 shows, i think, well, i could buy a couple box sets instead.

All of my friends in town are trying to find a way to get into the Lips/Pink show for free. It's like, cmon, you spend twice that much on weed every week!
So, I see where Whiney is coming from.

W33d > those bands

Well duh but we take what we can get out here in the sticks.

can't you see half this stuff any week of the year in nyc

I have no desire to deal with festivals, but living in NY, I feel guilty that I don't see more shows that will definitely inspire some movement, or, if they're not driving-beat types, have seats.

would try to see every halfway cool act and then some when I lived in State College, PA, and over the last five years in Philly and here about 80% of my concertgoing has involved seeing electric six every six months or so.

This thread has heartened me so much. I honestly thought I was alone/a weirdo for finding going to live gigs and having to stand thru 2 supports and then the main band painful and tiring. My (now ex) bf always acted like I was old and/or mad for not wanting to see live acts EVERY WEEKEND, and now I am vindicated. Thank you guys you've made me feel better about it all now hurrah.

PS the ATP we had here was up in the mountains at a SKI RESORT - beat that.

have a job, don't like bands playing their albums in order.

wait, what? this question is posed to NYC ilxors almost as if ATP were actually in NYC. but for me, at least, it's probably easier, cheaper, and more convenient to go see a festival in Chicago than to go to ATP, so I don't really get what NYC has to do with anything.

so when you folks that are complaining about live music go to gigs, do you just stand in one place and watch (or try to watch) the stage, or do you go get drinks (or food when available), wander around the venue, talk to people you know, etc.?

how do you talk to ppl at a gig, is a q i have had for ever

there are literally ppl being paid to make conversation impossible

there are also these 15-45 minute periods where those people are on break?

xp - a friend of mine showed me a trick how you can actually talk to someone at a normal volume while loud music is playing.

I go to shows a lot, and a significant amount of my show-going is social - so I will watch one band, go to the bar/go outside and talk, check out part of another band's set, go back to the bar/outside if it's boring, etc.

The times I've reviewed shows and gone with a friend I've been able to chat. He knows and I know when it's time to pay attention. The only time I wished I'd brought a friend was when I had to review the goddamn Eagles in 2003 on their seventh or eighth reunion show, during which there was never a moment when the band wasn't strumming 78 acoustic guitars and bleating in perfect nauseous harmony. I ended up buying five overpriced gin and tonics and leaving after the second encore.

man that is a lot of guitars

I want to know this trick

sell 600 million albums and ask Timothy B. Schmidt who does his hair.

so it WAS teh eagles that inspired that boredoms 77 drums thing

This thread has heartened me so much. I honestly thought I was alone/a weirdo for finding going to live gigs and having to stand thru 2 supports and then the main band painful and tiring.

I find this thread disheartening for the exact same reason. You'd think on a board titled "I Love Music" people would be slightly more reticent about preferring air conditioning/their S.O./etc. to live music performed by warm people, but I guess not. I get guilty if I miss one show and I go out 3 - 4 nights a week. Obviously spoiled for choice in NYC but there are very, very few concerts I've willingly/excitedly gone to and actually regretted. Are y'all really old, really jaded, or just have the terrible misfortune of seeing terrible live bands constantly?

No, just reluctant to construct false dichotomies.

I worked at a club for three years and saw (at least) 1,000 bands during that time. I'm all paid up.

feel like whiney is def on some tom sawyer "painting fences is sooooo fun!!! can't believe you gusy aren't into it" tip here

― dyao, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:43 AM (7 hours ago)

hahaha

Are y'all really old, really jaded, or just have the terrible misfortune of seeing terrible live bands constantly?

The first two

I find this thread disheartening for the exact same reason. You'd think on a board titled "I Love Music" people would be slightly more reticent about preferring air conditioning/their S.O./etc. to live music performed by warm people, but I guess not.

Actually if you must know, when I said painful, I meant it literally - I have a leg/foot probelm that means I am unable to stand (esp on concrete which many band venues seem made of) for more than about half an hour without being in excruciating pain. A lot of venues ive been to have NOWHERE in the band room to sit down. You want a seat, you gotta go out to the bar/out to the beer garden and hello, you're missing the fucking show you paid for.

On that note sarah: sure, ive been to gigs where Ive wandered around/sat outside drinking/talked but those are small pub venues with seating, local friends bands and often, no one ends up watching any of the acts anyway.

I was more referrig to midlevel venue shows that start at 8 and finish after midnight and there is no where to sit :( I could do it when I was 21, but I just cant anymore. Halfway thru a Black Cab gig recentlu I tried to sit on a step out of deperation in pain (I was distracted to the point of almost tears) and a bouncer told me to eff off and get off the floor.

Ugh typos all over sorry, kbd is a bit fuqued.

hahaha btw all the hardiest show-goers I'm good friends with (several of whom are on this board--most of whom I met through this board) are older than me (35)

three "has" - particularly damning

Wow, none of those examples (Flaming Lips, etc.) sound remotely appealing, unless they're doing Priest Driven Ambulance or something. Also, add $15/hour for the babysitter to the price of all this fun, and then get up at 6am the day after to make waffles shaped like Dora The Explorer.