NYC ilxors: I am calling you out

Dear Whiney, I do not care about ATP. Much loves + <3s, see you at Zorn!

In poker, if you are somewhat competent, you can beat anyone on any given day. I know guys that have sat at tables with some big names and have taken them out.

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5-card suzy

belatedly on the subject of performing classic lps, can i direct y'all to the inaugural atp ny performance of psychic hearts in full

have fun @ burningman

I've already been to a couple of ATPs and have seen a sizable majority of the bands playing this one. I really want to see the Scientists, but would rather see them play a full set somewhere on a dedicated bill.

I am going, but I've had a hard time persuading people I know to go this year. The poor state of the economy is definitely a factor - ATP is expensive, and I know plenty of people who've lost work or are facing a less than certain future career-wise at present. Laying down $500 or so for a music festival isn't the wisest move in those circumstances.

Also, as mentioned on the other thread, I think there is some disappointment that Jarmusch hasn't really pulled anything surprising/spectacular out of the bag. Considering who he's worked with in the music world in the past, I think folks were hoping for a bit more from him. Still, there is some time left...

i'm going to the gybe ATP in December and a little worried about how well i'll hold up - i stopped going to gigs mostly because I had this little Whiney-esque voice inside telling me that OBVIOUSLY i had to be LOVING this because it was AMAZING and this was what LOVING MUSIC was about, and it was so exhausting to be constantly feeling like i was meant to be having an intense spiritual experience and losing myself in the music etc etc etc, when actually i what i was mostly feeling was bored/foot-achey. I have been to ATPs before and had an awesome time, but it was q a bit more about the people I was with than the music in and of itself.

i mean, i am excited about seeing some bands i have not seen for 5-10 years! and some other ones i have only heard of! and hanging out w/ friends! but there's also the v distinct possibility that i'll just get grumpy and bored from all the standing still, wearing earplugs, and not having transcendental experiences.

i really want to go to the GYBE one in December but everyone in this thread is kind of making me feel like a loser

like I'm pretty sure 95% of the ppl in this thread would tell me its retarded to drop a grand and go out to England when I should be reading and cuddling and enjoying air-conditioning

aw Whiney we're just bein mean cos you appear to be extracting more joy from life than us for once.

first they came for the subway subs..

dunno, i would probably consider going to something like this is I lived in the area. I don't really go to festivals, but the indoor/smaller aspect of this makes it pretty appealing. and whatevs, the bill is amazing. I can see getting burned out on loud/live music, but I can also see it being fun. how much do tickets cost anyway? $$$ would probably be the thing keeping me from going.

keep thinking about the "I AM HAVING A GOOD TIME" dance from delocated

avoid air conditioning in december in nyc if you can help it but that's just me

like I'm pretty sure 95% of the ppl in this thread would tell me its retarded to drop a grand and go out to England when I should be reading and cuddling and enjoying air-conditioning

― markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:24 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think you're confusing us judging you with you judging us.

like I'm pretty sure 95% of the ppl in this thread would tell me its retarded to drop a grand and go out to England when I should be reading and cuddling and enjoying air-conditioning

dude maybe you are into telling people what they do or don't have to do if they actually love music but imo if you would enjoy a festival & seein bands all day & all night you should 100% go! and have fun! it is awesome that your partner is into doin that too - I'm just sayin that the ability to tolerate whose unstinting days musical stimulation is not a yardstick for measuring how much a person loves music: not that a person for whom that sounds awesome loves music any less than the person who thinks "I like mine in smaller doses"

"whole unstinting days of musical stimulation" I meant to write

I wonder if i'll hear any Beatles

I do know that at ATP 2008, they played "Atlas" by Battles over the PA like 7,000 times

"cuddling and enjoying air conditioning" is so much fun in South Florida.

I'm pretty sure 95% of the people on this thread would shrug and say "it's not my money" and then go back to their air-conditioned cuddling with "The Snakepit" playing in the background

i'd choose reading over all other human activities save sleeping and eating, in that order.

jaymc, that was just one of the 57+ tournaments in the WSOP. The Main Event, #57, is the big one that gets shown on ESPN. Still, any WSOP cash is a good showing.

Ah, did not know this. But yeah, the dude is serious about his poker, as at least one ILXor I know who has sat at a table with him can attest.

It's only 84 in New York today. The obsession with air conditioning is about two weeks late.

I am not going to ATP. I could afford to. I appeal to Whiney for clemency on his evaluation of how much I care about music.

feel like whiney is def on some tom sawyer "painting fences is sooooo fun!!! can't believe you gusy aren't into it" tip here

― dyao, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:43 PM (2 hours ago)

hahaha

I appeal to Whiney for clemency on his evaluation of how much I care about music.

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Whiney I think you're the last over-25 standing who actually wants to see that many bands in a day no matter what bands they are

attending the Matt Groening UK ATP this year (that's a good excuse for not going to this one, yeah?) was my realisation that I am no longer as spry as I was in my teen years. Worth the back and shoulder pain, but still, OUCH.

i stopped going to gigs mostly because I had this little Whiney-esque voice inside telling me that OBVIOUSLY i had to be LOVING this because it was AMAZING and this was what LOVING MUSIC was about, and it was so exhausting to be constantly feeling like i was meant to be having an intense spiritual experience and losing myself in the music etc etc etc, when actually i what i was mostly feeling was bored/foot-achey.

^^^^ sorely overlooked deeply truthful post. this is a shitty feeling and although not necessarily a byproduct of going to festivals, is def linked to the process of listening to music/being stimulated too often/for too long. like sometimes when i get a day off from work or school i'm all "i'm gonna hang out and listen to records ALL DAY" but eventually you're just really sick of everything.

i'm young and would probably go to 5 shows a week if i could but i have never really seen a festival lineup and deeply moved enough to do it. this year's dna fest is maybe the closest so far, but then again like ugh a whole day of noisy garage bands? warped tour when i was like 13 ~ 14 was definitely some of the most fun shit of all time though. whiney i am infinitely jealous of you if you have as much fun at atp 2010 as i did as a kid at warped tour but it's probably impossible and would be possibly really embarassing

the key w/festivals is that it's not really about the line-up and definitely not about the headliners; a few acts you're enthusiastic about will do you, but it's always more about the unannounced djs on the bill and impromptu parties that pop up at night for me. at sónar this year i only went to the official sónar by night complex once in 4 nights - spent more time at random off-sónar parties in barcelona, boat parties &c.

Festivals are a drag and too fuckin' expensive.

I probably would have lived in the Oneida room if I'd gone to that ATP.
All my friends here in Missouri are bellyaching about ponying up 35 bones for the Flaming Lips/Ariel Pink show.
I paid fifty bucks to see Neil Young solo like ten years ago, I'll pay thirty five to see an act that I think put out one of the best records of the year and at least check out the headliner. If the Lips suck, fuck it. If Ariel Pink sucks, yeah, I will be really disappointed. We shall see.

yeah, i have a hard time paying more than $50 for a concert -- and even that is a stretch. I paid about that for Nick Cave a few yeras ago ... whenever i see these $50-60-100 shows, i think, well, i could buy a couple box sets instead.

All of my friends in town are trying to find a way to get into the Lips/Pink show for free. It's like, cmon, you spend twice that much on weed every week!
So, I see where Whiney is coming from.

W33d > those bands

Well duh but we take what we can get out here in the sticks.

can't you see half this stuff any week of the year in nyc

I have no desire to deal with festivals, but living in NY, I feel guilty that I don't see more shows that will definitely inspire some movement, or, if they're not driving-beat types, have seats.

would try to see every halfway cool act and then some when I lived in State College, PA, and over the last five years in Philly and here about 80% of my concertgoing has involved seeing electric six every six months or so.

This thread has heartened me so much. I honestly thought I was alone/a weirdo for finding going to live gigs and having to stand thru 2 supports and then the main band painful and tiring. My (now ex) bf always acted like I was old and/or mad for not wanting to see live acts EVERY WEEKEND, and now I am vindicated. Thank you guys you've made me feel better about it all now hurrah.

PS the ATP we had here was up in the mountains at a SKI RESORT - beat that.

have a job, don't like bands playing their albums in order.

wait, what? this question is posed to NYC ilxors almost as if ATP were actually in NYC. but for me, at least, it's probably easier, cheaper, and more convenient to go see a festival in Chicago than to go to ATP, so I don't really get what NYC has to do with anything.

so when you folks that are complaining about live music go to gigs, do you just stand in one place and watch (or try to watch) the stage, or do you go get drinks (or food when available), wander around the venue, talk to people you know, etc.?

how do you talk to ppl at a gig, is a q i have had for ever

there are literally ppl being paid to make conversation impossible

there are also these 15-45 minute periods where those people are on break?

xp - a friend of mine showed me a trick how you can actually talk to someone at a normal volume while loud music is playing.

I go to shows a lot, and a significant amount of my show-going is social - so I will watch one band, go to the bar/go outside and talk, check out part of another band's set, go back to the bar/outside if it's boring, etc.

The times I've reviewed shows and gone with a friend I've been able to chat. He knows and I know when it's time to pay attention. The only time I wished I'd brought a friend was when I had to review the goddamn Eagles in 2003 on their seventh or eighth reunion show, during which there was never a moment when the band wasn't strumming 78 acoustic guitars and bleating in perfect nauseous harmony. I ended up buying five overpriced gin and tonics and leaving after the second encore.

man that is a lot of guitars

I want to know this trick