NYC ilxors: I am calling you out

nowadays I think I'd only go to a show if I were truly and deeply invested in the output of that band - like all my most enjoyable shows have been to see bands of whom I owned every album, knew all of them by heart, could sing along, etc.

it's rare that I get to that level with a band anymore. I think the only acts I'd actively make an effort to see nowadays would be new order and taylor swift.

THE SCIENTISTS - Performing Blood Red River (First Ever U.S. Show!)

frankly the only thing that tempted me to consider going to ATP this year

but $$$

I live in NY (somewhat recent transplant) and have gone to every stateside ATP festival yet including all three west coast incarnations earlier last decade and am going to this one. This thread is enlightening. Wondering how many naysayers have actually been to an ATP? It's the festival for people who hate festivals and love music, no question.

Would never go to this.

xpost yeah it's like indoors and air-conditioned and not oversold and never crowded and very comfortable and there's movies and food and a swimming pool

but OMG SHOWS TERRIFYING!

poor jordan would never get his shade

the last memorable show I remember seeing was when the knife were touring silent shout w/ the whole visual projector thing, which was awesome. the last shitty, ohmygod-whydidIagreetogo show I was dragged to was the fiery furnaces. the last show I went to where I was actively disappointed was the clipse.

going to shows "professionally" for two years pretty much killed my desire to more than four nights of live music per year.

It's the festival for people who hate festivals and love music, no question.

this makes me want to go even less

MFB and ilxor know what's up

cmj 2007 was one of the first big "i am a grown man wtf am i doing with my life" moments for me pre-30.

ha, I remember that!

more power to you if yr old and still have the stamina/inclination but jesus life is short.

i'm all for you guys having fun at a big festival show, but this is not for me

haha whiney has actually been with me at two of my "festivals NO" damascus moments. i am actually kinda heartened he is still out there sluggin it away.

Card Games Room with Steve Albini
??? is that a name of a band or does it mean you can actually play poker with Albini? If so, that sounds so awesome, I bet he plays like a bad mfker and he's only into it to screw some cash from hipsters

guess hardmanning about who is a hipster got tiring so it's time to hardman about who is a music fan?

i'm all for you guys having fun at a big festival show, but this is not for me

Main stage is capped at ~2000 people, so the biggest crowd is smaller than a sold out Terminal 5.

i love music (more than you do)

feel like whiney is def on some tom sawyer "painting fences is sooooo fun!!! can't believe you gusy aren't into it" tip here

last fest i went to was pfork in 07. it was an ok time.

xpost

dude, i hate EVERYTHING if you haven't noticed. i think it should be kinda noteworthy when i actually stan for something

Card Games Room with Steve Albini
??? is that a name of a band or does it mean you can actually play poker with Albini? If so, that sounds so awesome, I bet he plays like a bad mfker and he's only into it to screw some cash from hipsters

― V79, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the latter

if "i hate everything" is what you're trying to get across on a regular basis you do a pretty bad job of it

It's the festival for people who hate festivals and love music, no question.

Get over yourself.

I've been to any number of festivals -- however small or large, however defined -- and a lot of them could fit this description you claim for ATP alone. It's not down to some holy cachet blessed by a three letter acronym and never will be.

whiney you might want to consider some stendhal syndrome-like response when music lovers express repulsion at festivals

some ppl can't gorge on live music, it gets exhausting

I'm an old dude who loves going to shows, would go to a couple a week if I could, but 3-4 bands is the perfect size for a bill, and the closer you get your set to 20 minutes the happier I am

also i like/love a lot of acts on that lineup, but pretending its all-things-to-all-people-so-y'all-come-on-down is pretty wtf.

I've been to any number of festivals -- however small or large, however defined -- and a lot of them could fit this description you claim for ATP alone.

Fair enough, but have you been to ATP?

I'm an old dude who loves going to shows, would go to a couple a week if I could, but 3-4 bands is the perfect size for a bill, and the closer you get your set to 20 minutes the happier I am

x1000

whiney you might want to consider some stendhal syndrome-like response when music lovers express repulsion at festivals

some ppl can't gorge on live music, it gets exhausting

I'm an old dude who loves going to shows, would go to a couple a week if I could, but 3-4 bands is the perfect size for a bill, and the closer you get your set to 20 minutes the happier I am

― (e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:46 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like i said, this has all been very enlightening.

ned is beyond atp.

tbh I like hanging out with my wife more than I like going to multiday events, and my wife would absolutely hate this and I am not particularly interested in seeing any of the people there, so my wife wins

ned is beyond us all.

To be honest I hate festivals too, which is why I totally fell for atp massively when I first went and then went on about it so much that they gave me a job. If you haven't been to one though it's hard to see how it would differ from the usual uncomfortable shit sound crowdedness of most fests.

actually i would like to play cards with steve albini, dan, and his wife.

Jamie knows what's up

i had great times at primavera the last couple of years but it's like a 13 minute metro ride or shuttle away from where we stay and you could come and go as you please.

plus it's in SPAIN

i think it should be kinda noteworthy when i actually stan for something

It is! But check out the other side of the coin -- isn't it just a treat to see all that nonstop hate/dismissal for something that really revs your engine?

it's wild!

chris are you really not getting the thing that people can "love music" and still rather spend time with their wives than watching the fucking books live?

I love movies but I've never gone to a film festival, don't think I'd want to either

film festivals have seats.

jess, how many times am I going to have to say "this has all been very enlightening" before you get off my balls about it?

until i decide to get back to work.

and easily accessible bathrooms

xp

perhaps if you said it in the form of a hipster puppy jpg

xxp

haha also man saying "this has been really enlightening" smacks of snark-ish "now i see how you people REALLY are" type shit.

i don't mean it like that

If you haven't been to one though it's hard to see how it would differ from the usual uncomfortable shit sound crowdedness of most fests.

This is quite telling -- if your background of a festival experience is solely Lollapalooza/Reading/Glastonbury/Coachella and its endless descendants and spinoffs and ripoffs, ATP doubtless is a breath of fresh air. My experience happens to be more varied due to interest, luck of the draw and my own personal history -- I didn't plan on catching several dates of the Scott Walker-curated Meltdown, for instance, until I realized I'd be in London at the same time it was going on -- so ATP is certainly enjoyable but not a Road to Damascus moment for me.