Let's discuss Rick Ross' "Teflon Don"

teflon don > trilla > deeper than rap

neither of the first two felt like an EVENT like 'teflon don' did tho

cuz HE'S BIG MEECH

And he gave Arcade Fire thumbs up yesterday, which was a bigger surprise.

I love this album but not on Ian's terms.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:56 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not really, he likes a lot of bedwetter rock, i only read his rap reviews most of the time.

so is this guy like the dave edmunds of rap douchebaggery or something? that review seems to suggest we should be glad he's grown into the '90s or something

"last of a dying breed" just like the blasters!

no i think that would be jeff weiss

but ian's pretty close

"people would rather miss out on new rap royalty than admit this is about as good as mainstream macho rap gets these days"

The beats on this are so diirrrrrrrty <3 x 1000000

I think one thing ppl are missing in the race to be "OMG HES MC HAMMER MEECH LOL FUCKK HAHAH" is that a lot of his flows actually kind of sound like "Lets Get It Started"/"Ring Em" hammer circa 1988

teflon don > trilla > deeper than rap

neither of the first two felt like an EVENT like 'teflon don' did tho

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:08 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

deeper than rap is way better than the other two! and was way more of an EVENT too, when that first joint dropped where hes all 'whistling at wendy williams' or whatever thats when everyone was all "whoa...dude can rap." This record doesnt feel like much of an EVENT at all in comparison

Pfork did a 180 this morning, after giving low marks to the first two Ross albums and not even bothering with the third:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14482-teflon-don

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:27 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude. why do ppl still say this?? pitchfork is not a person

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If kanye is gonna go all Rick Rubin with his new shit, I'm all for it

deeper than rap is way better than the other two! and was way more of an EVENT too, when that first joint dropped where hes all 'whistling at wendy williams' or whatever thats when everyone was all "whoa...dude can rap." This record doesnt feel like much of an EVENT at all in comparison

― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:11 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i didnt wanna bat for it what with viewing from a distance but that's how the event status seemed to me too

agree about deeper than rap anyways

although its not like dtr is a great record ether so whatevs

so what is it then?

average - all of ross' albums are shades of average

its an inconsistent one for sure. but ... 'yacht club'

I like Deeper Than Rap better than Teflon Don. I feel like the new one is too ambitious. Peter Principle in action, kinda; on DTR he got as good as he's ever gonna be and had exactly the kind of lush yacht-rap beats he needs. Only "Super High" really maintains that level of lushness.

dude. why do ppl still say this?? pitchfork is not a person

Thanks, I know, it's called paraphrasing. You sound like the guy from PitchforkReviewsReviews.

except the purpose of yr post was to make a point as if it was the same person

Oh for fuck's sake let's not get into this again, I KNOW THE REVIEWS ARE WRITTEN BY DIFF AUTHORS

i heard what i presume to be teflon don booming from someone's car today and it sounded awesome which reminds me i need to hear teflon don

if anything, 'deeper than rap' felt like an event record mostly because of his beef with 50

i think the hype surrounding 'teflon don' was borne solely out of the realization that the dude could actually rap

did anyone actually care about his beef w/ fiddy?

rap fans always care about beefs, no matter how inconsequential, cynical or half-hearted

*smh at rap fans*

i heard ________________ booming from someone's car today and it sounded awesome

This actually happens? I hear these people too but no matter what's playing, they generally sound like fucking idiots doing it.

doing what - listening to music? it's rad when you overhear cars blasting songs you love! u crazy

(esp in summer)

you can't sound like an idiot blasting rap music, that's what its for

I though I always feel suuuper awkward for dudes when i hear a car drive by playing a skit

...oreo cookie eatin motherfff...

i think the hype surrounding 'teflon don' was borne solely out of the realization that the dude could actually rap

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 3:19 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it wasnt really a 'realization' any more though

he still can't really rap

i'm gonna JFK
like JFK
and my JFK
is a J... EFF KAYYYYYY

looool

I though I always feel suuuper awkward for dudes when i hear a car drive by playing a skit

...oreo cookie eatin motherfff...

Man I wish just once I heard someone blasting the ICP blowjob sketch that summer every car seemed to be playing the Marshall Mathers LP in my hometown.

unnnghhhh give it back to j he was suckin it better

for like a week a had somehow confused Big Meech with Big Lurch and thought that line was infinitely better

catch me in miami, bout fo' girls, toes curl

also missing in discussion is the return of the legit street banger as a semi-crossover hit. when was the last time street track that was rap's song of the summer

all the fluffy prod. and the "out of step with current moment" Robb Report mythologizing ignores the fact that BMF was CRAB MEATS this summer

THAT REVIEW DOESN'T EVEN MENTION "B.M.F."

yeah that is true -- the whole talking about point about ross's extravagant beats is really more pertinent to the last album

teflon don is better in part because there are joints like "mc hammer" an "bmf" and the opener to balance everything out

also missing in discussion is the return of the legit street banger as a semi-crossover hit. when was the last time street track that was rap's song of the summer

Beamer, Benz or Bently?

i wouldn't necessarily call "BMF" at street hit in the sense that it's a rick ross song... there was always some level of built in advantages -- it's certainly not on the same wavelength in that regard as "o let's do it" or "wasted" or any dance snap thing

really i think it served more of a purpose of reminding ross's people that no one really wants to hear him doing shit like "super high" or "magnificent" -- people still want "hustlin" type joints from him (exception being the one w/ nelly that was a hit)

It was "Super High" that sold this for me though.

some1 pls post funny Rick Ross corections officer pic

san te, check the other rick ross thread, there's tons of them

"super high" is really limp to me, the remix is amazing tho