Rolling Metal Thread 2010

learning..

thanks for the heads up, bookmarking it now

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top 5 working bands easy and one of the best ever in my opinion, remarkably consistent throughout their catalog. get their early ones like now.

Okay but it seems you are avoiding the real question: does Enslaved hold a candle to Amy Grant?

may I direct you to the title of this thread & point out that it doesn't say "larger perspectives on underrated aerosmith's various musical opinions"

Oh so you would rather I start a separate TS/poll thread, then?

(I couldn't participate, I have not heard Enslaved. Though I did enjoy my mom's cassette copy of Heart in Motion when I was 7.)

♪ I'm Enslaved for you ♪

Jon is right. Enslaved is one of the very best and most important bands in the world.

Er, J0hn or whatever.

There are so few bands that I trust anymore. When there is a new Enslaved album in the works, I'm excited, and know that I will buy the vinyl as soon as it's available.

I think Enslaved, Opeth, and to a lesser degree Oneida are some of the only bands in the this category for me.

AND I HOPE YOU DIEEEE
I HOPE WE BOTH DIE

― J0n D.

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stop being a dick

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New board description.

(Sorry.)

j0hn/aerosmith - have you heard Inherit Disease's Visceral Transcendence yet? Brutal death, came out two weeks ago on Unique Leader, totally fucking blowing my mind right now. They don't break any genre rules, they're just better than almost anyone else I've heard in this realm. Seriously, I think this album will make your month if you're in a mood for the whole "something is really, really wrong with my toilet" school of vocals.

no I haven't but that sounds awesome, I'll keep my eyes peeled - I'm not on a lot of promo lists.

I especially love the fact that there are three tracks with guest vocalists and you absolutely can't tell at all. One gut-gurgle is just like another.

This Sword album is killer. I've always been off and on with this band, but this is a huge, huge improvement over the last two. How this could get a negative review in dB (I haven't seen it yet) is beyond me.

Perhaps it was the asshole that panned SubArachnoid Space that reviewed the Sword? That guy needs to be fired.

It was Adem T3p3d3l3n that reviewed The Sword, don't have the other issue handy to see who trashed SubArachnoid Space. He pretty much trashes The Sword for ditching the "stoner/doom thing" and "Sleep/Sabbath" influences in favor of "12-bar blues" and "Lynyrd Skynyrd or Molly Hatchet" influences. He doesn't like the "extended jams" either.

Adam is also from Seattle, but he's not the asshole in question.

Are any of you guys familiar with/fans of Christian Mistress? Early 80s-ish justbeforeitallwentthrash metal done right, on 20 Buck Spin. They're from Portland which is Nate's manor iirc - really like their mini-album, may well spend the rest of 2010 stanning for them in my own tiny ineffectual way - tho Fenriz appears to have been doing this for a while so that is proving a boon for them no doubt

I was raving about Christian Mistress in June and Nate followed suit with his own effusive praise. I am nuts about their new album (my review is in the new Sword-slammin' issue of Decibel), it's NWOBHM done right, with a great female singer to boot.

I put the CD on in the car the other day and didn't like it much, though it might just have been my mood. If AMG wants a review, I'll give it a fuller listen.

I enjoy music with both Sleep/Sabbath AND Skynyrd/Hatchet influences. I dont think ditching one for the other is a good basis for a bad review.

are you guys basically saying that everybody has to like the Sword or they are posing

I'm certainly not, I haven't even heard the new album yet! I was just quoting the review everyone was talking about. I am looking forward to the new one though.

are you guys basically saying that everybody has to like the Sword or they are posing

^posing.

I haven't quite convinced myself that there's nothing of value on the new Ozzy album, but man, there are some steaming cesspools of awfulness on it. I don't have a pole long enough to see how deep a pit "Let Me Hear You Scream" is, and if I did, I probably wouldn't want to get any of that stuff on it.

Do you want to read my track-by-track review of the new Iron Maiden album? Probably not. But here it is anyway.

I agree with the review, Phil. Incredibly long album that needs time to sink in, but no tossed-off tracks whatsoever.

On the other hand, the new Boris EP with Ian Astbury is totally tossed-off. (Like most Boris records.)

I like the "Rain" cover a lot actually.

Yeah, that's about the only thing I did like.

Best thing on it, no question.

Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about this Boris thing yet, definitely not top tier material. I do have to say I'm very surprised to see Phil call them "deadly dull live", both times I've seen them they've been outstanding.

Here's an interview I did with Tommy Clufetos, drummer for Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie and now Ozzy Osbourne...

posted already on the swans thread but since i'm listening again right now feel i should repeat how groovy the new swans album is. sadly, my speakers can only handle 120 watts of power.

i feel good now.

Finally checking out Heliocentric, really not too sure about the new Ocean vocalist. Liked the first couple of tracks well enough, but when the piano-heavy power ballad "Ptolemy Was Wrong" came on, my interest faded quickly.

dug the new decrepit birth on first listen. I remember people trashing the production on this one - what's the deal? I've certainly heard worse.

I have been working on the upcoming October Thrones/Christian Mistress tour for weeks. Should have some dates to announce very soon. Likely, they are coming your way. Folks who write for local weeklies, please take note! :)

re: Decrepit Birth, the drum sound is terrible.

And funnily enough, the City of Fire CD also has a pretty decent cover of "Rain" on it.

I've heard about this LA retro-proto metal band Gypsyhawk 3 times in the last 2 weeks. Whenever that happens, I try to pay attention.

Apparently Brian Tattler of Diamond Head is praising them too.

Thoughts?

http://www.myspace.com/gypsyhawkusa

Jumping into the Boris discussion a few posts up, yes, the BXI EP is totally tossed off and undercooked (minus the "Rain" cover, which bests the overrated original) but that's really part of the appeal, I think. I bet we could come up with a bigger laundry list of *overcooked* collaborative efforts... nice to hear something a bit more nonchalant. It's not anywhere close to the best thing Boris has let out in recent years, but it doesn't need to be. It's a fun, stopgap EP.

Oh, and Boris are always incredible live, a sure bet for a fucking loud rock show with a wall of drone/sludge/noise tossed in here and there.

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a question for more experienced metal listeners:

is there anything special that a death metal musician has to do while they're playing that's any different from what 'a normal musician' would? what are they listening for to know where they are, to know what to do when? have death metal listeners / musicians worked out an idea of how the elements fit together so that they usually reckon by them? ('then we do this blast-beat section for four bars of the guitar riff, then…')

i'm at the point where i can hear that every band and every style is just as attached to their musical patterns as any other kind of music, but since death metal especially goes out of its way to use patterns that are quite distant from a lot of intuitively meaningful musical idioms—especially where turn-on-a-dime structures and awkward rhythms and time signatures are concerned—i sometimes wonder whether the really technical bands don't just have to learn each song entirely by rote.

and i realize that all performing musicians have to learn each song entirely by rote, but usually they're helped out by working in styles that don't try so hard to thwart so many 'natural' musical idioms. with free jazz musicians, say, it doesn't seem at all mysterious to me how they learn what to do and can re-perform 'the same'. but the rigidity of death metal seems like it makes that work a little differently. (maybe it's more like performing schoenberg or webern?)

(i've been listening to the inherit disease album mentioned upthread, and now i'm wondering what the best way would be to represent the singing in print. )

in the studio death metal is recorded one chunk at a time, one instrument at a time, from what I know. drums first. there is totally a comparison between death metal composition & serialism, imo.

unrelatedly, did everybody hear the spite extreme wing album VLTRA from last year? 'cause some of y'all would dig that. epic structures, lots of looks (opens with a black metal burst that eases into an enslaved-proggy deal but then does a thrash breakdown, all without seeming like it's trying too hard), pretty damn good.

Smithy someone asked a question Here that you & chuck might be able to answer