Rolling Metal Thread 2010

Vandermark and Mars Williams were part of the Peter Brotzmann tentet + 2 that I saw in a church in Portland back in 2001 or so. One of the craziest things I've ever seen.

xpost - New Enslaved! Downloading now! The only bands with similarly consistent catalogs are Voivod, Opeth, and Rush. I think it takes a progressive mindset and a general disinterest in commercial success to be so staggeringly consistent, forward thinking, and true.

xpost - I gave the Sword a chance live and they were a total dud on stage. They've toured A LOT since then though so I'll strive to keep an open mind.

I'm a well documented Vandermark fan*, but Rempis is no slouch. Check out Engines or Rempis Percussion Quartet if you're interested.

*full disclosure: i am married to the guy who made this (nate, he was there when i bought tshirts from you at that agalloch show a year ago or whenever that was): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtSYQAtK6RY

does anyone know what numbers the new Nachtmystium record can expect to do? and/or how many copies of Assassins were sold? curious about how popular "big" metal records like those really are

For big critics faves im guessing
20,000-50,000?

Only the label knows for sure but I doubt it's 50k. That seems like a lot for anything in this realm except Dethklok.

i was meaning worldwide

Ah that's another story.

yeah, I just had no idea what sort of numbers we were even talking about here. thanks!

I think a band like In This Moment will probably hit 50K this time around. Lacuna Coil does about that.

selling 50k worldwide is pretty fucking hard unless you are getting lots of mainstream coverage, fyi. poppier metal like Lacuna Coil with tv coverage in their home country & in Scandinavia & Germany can hit it for sure though. if nachtmystium is over 30k worldwide I'd be pretty surprised.

30k would make a lot of sense -- and I could definitely see those other bands selling more

why i said 20,000-50,000 for the big crit bands

What's this in my inbox? The new album by The Crown? OK...I think I can make time for this tonight before The Real Housewives of NJ starts.

New Enslaved is sounding great!

Every year I listen to the new Enslaved and think "I like it. But it's not as good as the last one." And then a week later I decide that it IS in fact better than the last one.

I've never heard any Enslaved before, but y'all have certainly got me interested

top 5 working bands easy and one of the best ever in my opinion, remarkably consistent throughout their catalog. get their early ones like now.

yeah, I'm definitely going to grab their new one & will look into the old ones too. will report back!

(and thanks!)

markers you should be checking out another thread

learning..

thanks for the heads up, bookmarking it now

ok incase anyone somehow misses it ILM : The Top 100 Metal/Heavy Rock Tracks Of All Time - Presented By Our Host, Henry, ILM's Favourite Heavy Metal Dog!

top 5 working bands easy and one of the best ever in my opinion, remarkably consistent throughout their catalog. get their early ones like now.

Okay but it seems you are avoiding the real question: does Enslaved hold a candle to Amy Grant?

may I direct you to the title of this thread & point out that it doesn't say "larger perspectives on underrated aerosmith's various musical opinions"

Oh so you would rather I start a separate TS/poll thread, then?

(I couldn't participate, I have not heard Enslaved. Though I did enjoy my mom's cassette copy of Heart in Motion when I was 7.)

♪ I'm Enslaved for you ♪

Jon is right. Enslaved is one of the very best and most important bands in the world.

Er, J0hn or whatever.

There are so few bands that I trust anymore. When there is a new Enslaved album in the works, I'm excited, and know that I will buy the vinyl as soon as it's available.

I think Enslaved, Opeth, and to a lesser degree Oneida are some of the only bands in the this category for me.

AND I HOPE YOU DIEEEE
I HOPE WE BOTH DIE

― J0n D.

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stop being a dick

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New board description.

(Sorry.)

j0hn/aerosmith - have you heard Inherit Disease's Visceral Transcendence yet? Brutal death, came out two weeks ago on Unique Leader, totally fucking blowing my mind right now. They don't break any genre rules, they're just better than almost anyone else I've heard in this realm. Seriously, I think this album will make your month if you're in a mood for the whole "something is really, really wrong with my toilet" school of vocals.

no I haven't but that sounds awesome, I'll keep my eyes peeled - I'm not on a lot of promo lists.

I especially love the fact that there are three tracks with guest vocalists and you absolutely can't tell at all. One gut-gurgle is just like another.

This Sword album is killer. I've always been off and on with this band, but this is a huge, huge improvement over the last two. How this could get a negative review in dB (I haven't seen it yet) is beyond me.

Perhaps it was the asshole that panned SubArachnoid Space that reviewed the Sword? That guy needs to be fired.

It was Adem T3p3d3l3n that reviewed The Sword, don't have the other issue handy to see who trashed SubArachnoid Space. He pretty much trashes The Sword for ditching the "stoner/doom thing" and "Sleep/Sabbath" influences in favor of "12-bar blues" and "Lynyrd Skynyrd or Molly Hatchet" influences. He doesn't like the "extended jams" either.

Adam is also from Seattle, but he's not the asshole in question.

Are any of you guys familiar with/fans of Christian Mistress? Early 80s-ish justbeforeitallwentthrash metal done right, on 20 Buck Spin. They're from Portland which is Nate's manor iirc - really like their mini-album, may well spend the rest of 2010 stanning for them in my own tiny ineffectual way - tho Fenriz appears to have been doing this for a while so that is proving a boon for them no doubt

I was raving about Christian Mistress in June and Nate followed suit with his own effusive praise. I am nuts about their new album (my review is in the new Sword-slammin' issue of Decibel), it's NWOBHM done right, with a great female singer to boot.

I put the CD on in the car the other day and didn't like it much, though it might just have been my mood. If AMG wants a review, I'll give it a fuller listen.

I enjoy music with both Sleep/Sabbath AND Skynyrd/Hatchet influences. I dont think ditching one for the other is a good basis for a bad review.

are you guys basically saying that everybody has to like the Sword or they are posing

I'm certainly not, I haven't even heard the new album yet! I was just quoting the review everyone was talking about. I am looking forward to the new one though.

are you guys basically saying that everybody has to like the Sword or they are posing

^posing.

I haven't quite convinced myself that there's nothing of value on the new Ozzy album, but man, there are some steaming cesspools of awfulness on it. I don't have a pole long enough to see how deep a pit "Let Me Hear You Scream" is, and if I did, I probably wouldn't want to get any of that stuff on it.

Do you want to read my track-by-track review of the new Iron Maiden album? Probably not. But here it is anyway.

I agree with the review, Phil. Incredibly long album that needs time to sink in, but no tossed-off tracks whatsoever.

On the other hand, the new Boris EP with Ian Astbury is totally tossed-off. (Like most Boris records.)