George Harrison: Search & Destroy

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Oh, and one strange fact.

When the "My Sweet Lord" case was finally settled, somehow George Harrison not only got to keep the rights to his song, but was ALSO awarded the rights to "He's So Fine". He now owns the song that he was accused of ripping off.

I've no idea how that happened, but it's true.

Oliver K., Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My all time favorite Harrison song is the rough version of "All Things Must Pass" found on the Anthology 3 disc. Lovely. Incidentally I also love "Isn't It A Pity", but have only heard the song through Galaxie 500's version.

JC, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the natural law party is fabulous, making a ring around washington dc and meditating all our problems away sounds promising. ralph nader is no fun.

keith, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Watching my favorite Bollywood TV show this morning, I was reminded of Harrison's "The Inner Light" (they were playing a video of a song which sounded very much like it). I'm surprised it's only been mentioned here once. It's a beautiful song with lovely if enigmatic words (inspired by Basho, I think), though perhaps a little too pretty. Perhaps it's my favorite Harrison song because he only sings on it; the rest is an anonymous Indian band It really has little to do with The Beatles as a group--in fact, there are a whole slew of Beatles songs that have little to do with them as a group, starting with "Yesterday." Well, I waited years for a stereo version of "The Inner Light," and I'm glad they finally got around to releasing one. And I think George ought to be given at least a little credit for collaborating with The Rutles.

X. Y. Zedd, Sunday, 2 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Sister Golden Hair" was crap tho

dave q, Sunday, 2 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did he really write 'Spoil The Party'? That one's ace.

I quite like what Oliver K has to say about ATMP, though I can't seriously rate it over the Beatles. But it has some remarkable moments, like I (we) keep saying.

Yes, those 'Something' lyrics are bad. But I think we all agree that pop != just lyrics (though lyrics may, sometimes, be important) - so for me the song is still a great.

Harrison as guitarist before he went weepy / wah-wah: Classic? (The latter style becomes too all-encompassing.)

What about the LP (eponymous?) with the song 'Faster' on it? I loved that song as a kid.

RC: I agree, NLP: terrible dud. But I wouldn't want to write off 60s- 70s Harrison's achievements just cos of that involvement (92?). Where do the Greens come in - was he funding them too, at some stage?

Relevant connection: Handmade Films. Classic element?

the pinefox, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I couldn't defend George Harrison for being 'best solo Beatle' <- which I do believe. I'm not that eloquently versed to beat a koala's pants off. But I enjoyed Wonderwall and All Things Must Pass out of his work. Anyone into self loathing and male angst would *love* All Things Must Pass. It's haunting and immense, layer upon layer of weepy guitar. Cannot... describe... As the years went by the albums got worse (soooo preachy!) until his self titled album in 1979. It was all folksy goodness. Blow Away and Soft Hearted Hana are some good tunes. 80's 'got my mind'- bleech. Then The Wilburys were his last stand and now he has faded into musical obscurity. Well, until he is stabbed or cancerous once more.

Abbei, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pinefox: I was saying to search 'I Don't Want To Spoil the Party' for George's guitar break. It's a Lennon song, I'm sure, with a McCartney bridge to cut the self pity.

Curt, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Reynard,

I don't *think* Harrison has ever had anything to do with the Green Party. I kind of specified that it wasn't related to the subject of this thread and therefore, arguably, against the rules.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Anyone heard this? Apparently consists of two longish moog pieces.

http://www.8trackheaven.com/Images/georgeharrisonelectronicsound.jpg

Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

oops it was supposed to be a pretty 8-track with childlike drawings called "Electronic Sounds". (Oddly, my trying to post the image here has made it turn into a red x on the original site as well.)

Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

George is my favorite Beatle.

Classic tune no one's mentioned: Cheer Down.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 24 February 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah you like him cause of his nickname, the coy beatle. Whatever. Anyone else able to shed me some light?

Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

search: "what is life"
destroy: the ONJ cover

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

"I have a theory that the Beatles were cursed. Lennon Shot Macca's wife died Harrison was stabbed a short while back by a psychotic antograph hunter/fan/"
...what, are you nuts? They're the world's most famous rock group, they're rich in perpetuity, their solo careers have flourished despite the fact that they're all completely hit-and-miss and might not even have broken above the tide if they weren't ex-Beatles, they did the best drugs and really lived the life, they were involved in the quest for world peace, even their relationships and children are world famous unto legendary... I can't call that cursed. What I CAN say is if you live long enough, something bad's gonna happen to you. Statistically!

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
SEARCH: APPLE SCRUFFS

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Search: "Apple Scruffs," "If Not For You" (better than Dylan's), "What is Life," "My Sweet Lord," "You," "Blow Away," Cloud Nine, the first Wilburys album.

Destroy: every album b/w Dark Horse and Cloud Nine.

Never mentioned: his production work on Ringo's ace "It Don't Come Easy" and co-writing the fantastic "Photograph"; also, his solo on Belinda Carlisle's "Leave A Light On."

Verdict: With some all-too-obvous exceptions, the man needs collaboraters.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Hey Paula G's pic works now...

Oh, and as for G.Harrison's lyrics...

(From Love you to)
"I'll make luv to you..
If you want me toooo"

Dawn: Knock yourself out, why don't you...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

What exactly is wrong with any of these lyrics? Too simple or something?

F that!

George wrote "Something" when he was only 25 years old! It and "Here Comes the Sun": 2 of the greatest Beatles tunes ever, period.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

The album "All Things Must Pass" is CLASSIC and ESSENTIAL, even if it isn't perfect. I also rather enjoy the way it's produced, the atmosphere of tracks like "Wah-Wah" & "Awaiting On You All". I've heard this rumour that it sounds even better on vinyl, though I've never had it on vinyl.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

A fave Harrisong of mine that doesn't get enough love:

Give Me Love

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Give Me Love has (as usual for George) a lovely melody, let down (as usual) by a terrible vocal.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

There are a ton of songs on 33 1/3 through Gone Troppo as good as "Give Me Love" IMO.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Time for me and Tim to wrestle over George again.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Time for me and Tim to wrastle over George again.

(but, yeah, I like "This Song" a lot too.)

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

"What Is Life" is the pinnacle of George for me. I might even go so far as to say it's the best post Beatles song of all their solo work.

darin (darin), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, "What Is Life" is incredible. I can listen to that one over and over again, and not get sick of it. Fantastic riff, and love the slide guitar on the last verse.

"If Not for You" is another great one off that album. His voice was perfectly suited to sing those lyrics.

Joe (Joe), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

The next song 'Behind That Locked Door', doesn't break the spell.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's awesome. And "Run of the Mill" at the end of that side is a really beautiful song.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I was just going to say, it really is. I feel like I'm listening to this album properly for the first time in my life. The whole thing feels so precious right now.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

'Art Of Dying' is pretty lame though.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Oh I love that one. It's got a great sense of urgency about it.

My fave track off ATMP though is I Live for You, another great melody.

I've been reading a few George interviews recently. I really like the turn of phrase he had and his gently cynical perspective.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 10 July 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

"blow Away" from 1979 is heavenly. and I think that all the songs on All Things that have huge echo are hampered by same. "Apple Scruffs" is the sound of joy itself.

and no one else on Earth has that sweet sound he got on the slide roundabout 1969.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

"blow Away" from 1979 is heavenly. and I think that all the songs on All Things that have huge echo are hampered by same. "Apple Scruffs" is the sound of joy itself.

and no one else on Earth has that sweet sound he got on the slide roundabout 1969 onwards.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Blow Away" is quite nice, with a lovely slide solo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Ton of gems on All Things Must Pass, plenty of boring stuff too. The third disc does have "It's Johnny's Birthday," which is fun. I once cut the whole thing down to a one-CD mix called "I Dig Love" and it was very, very good.

The only other one of his I have is Living In The Material World which is one of those records that almost mechanically alternates between tracks that make you want to put it on and tracks that make you keep flipping past in the bin. "Don't Let Me Wait Too Long" is probably the best thing on there, would have slid in to ATMP very very nicely. And of course "Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)" which is short on lyrics but is lovely and head-sticky, and I like his vocal on it, so hey.

One night I randomly caught the drag-racing-themed video clip for the later "Faster" on VH1 Classic. That's probably worth hearing at least once - the "Faster than a bullet from a gun!" line is really cool, unfortunately the song overall is really aimless and dull. I fear that probably describes a lot of the 70s and 80s Harrison, which is why I haven't really delved much further, and this thread isn't giving me much inspiration to. Surely ILX has at least one rabid defender of Extra Texture?

Oh, and as for his Beatles work: his own compositions are about an even mix of very good ("Taxman," "Something," "Savoy Truffle") and embarassingly bad ("I Need You," "Piggies"). His guitar playing on the other hand is consistently essential, and fun to listen for because you can hear it getting better and better with each successive album. Get to Revolver and he pretty much epitomizes what I think rock guitarists should play like and sound like. Not such a fan of the slide stuff later on but it has its moments.

Unheralded greatness: George as backing vocalist! He's the Michael Anthony of the 60s, the absolutely essential ingredient in so many songs I don't know how to pick an example. "I'm Down" is probably the best use of him as the straight man. His lead vocals are sometimes awkward, sometimes so perfect you can't imagine the song without them - see "Don't Bother Me," "Love You To." Also check "Roll Over Beethoven" as it appears on Live At The Hollywood Bowl, where he has McCartney putting some enthusiasm into backing him up, it's great.

In short - I think the conventional wisdom is right. One great album (near excellent), inconsistent as a songwriter outside of that, but very consistently perfect as guitarist and team-member where-ever he appears.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 July 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

With the exception of choice excerpts from ATMP and most of Cloud Nine, George was rarely interesting for more than two tracks per album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 July 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, let me guess when those rare instances were! I will guess 33 1/3, the self-titled album from '79, and...Gone Troppo!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

You know me too well.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Don't Let Me Wait Too Long" is probably the best thing on there"

omg I love love love this song

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

"Faster" is beautiful.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

lol. I love you, Tim.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

"I Need You" is "embarrassingly bad"?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's great, especially the 2nd parts of the verses ("Please come on back to me" etc.) and the bridges ("Oh yes, you told me you don't want my lovin' anymore" etc.). First of their two guitars with volume pedal songs (I would assume, yes?), the second being "Wait."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

...And "Run of the Mill" at the end of that side is a really beautiful song.

Thank you, Tim! Don't know if it's because of the horns, acoustic 12 string, sad lyrics or what, but this song has always been my favorite from ATMP.

xpost: kyle, I think this was not George (Martin's) shining moment. I like the slow tremelo Harrison used here, but it seems to be overplayed with at the console. wtf do I know? I do enjoy the song though.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Wentworth has it with the over-fiddling on "I Need You." OK, maybe it's not "embarassingly bad," and I do agree with Tim that the bridge is quite good. I just find it a terribly limp performance - "You don't realize how much I need you..." and the guitar effectively goes "plop, plop." You can practically hear the instrument drooping.

For point of comparison, check out "Another Girl," where he tears it up on the same kind of call-and-response gap. "For I have got" BRANDOWN DA DOWN DOWN... etc. Now obviously "I Need You" is a different sort of song but it just feels as if so little energy was brought to bear on it. In George's defense, I would suspect that this was more for lack of interest from the other Beatles/George Martin than from himself...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that the volume pedal on the guitar? That's what I always thought it was. You hear it on "Wait," too.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

(I think it's a cool effect, fwiw._

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I just went back and listened to it, and it passes the "me singing along to the whole thing" test so it's not THAT bad. Could have been so much better though. "Piggies" is probably his worst Beatle number after all...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, it sometimes just sounds weak on the downbeat to me in that arrangement. It misses, in other words. And that's probably a little hard to control anyway. But, yes, I like the effect too.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

His 1974 tour is generally held to be a disaster, with his voice shot and his persona at his most spiritually hectoring. That can't have helped.

Alba, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:55 (three years ago)

The live clips aren't bad at all, and I sorta admire how he forced his audience to listen to Ravi Shankar.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:37 (three years ago)

The tour was US-only, besides which I think a lot of the tour went without an issue IIRC.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:18 (three years ago)

(US and Canada*)

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:19 (three years ago)

I’ve been obsessed with “Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)” for about the last week – I literally haven’t been able to get it out of my head for more than an hour or so at a time.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 June 2023 03:25 (two years ago)

Ha - I had that phase a few months ago.

Alba, Monday, 12 June 2023 05:43 (two years ago)

It’s a little surprising because I wouldn’t call myself a giant fan of Harrison’s—there’s a persistently sour feeling I find hard to dismiss—and while I suppose I’ve known this song forever I’ve never really thought much about it one way or another.

But there’s something undeniable about the circular chord sequence, modulations and slide guitar harmonies that collectively feel like they could go on forever. And now, I’m realizing at least two songs I wrote 25 years ago were influenced by it? Strange.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 June 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

two months pass...

Got really into All Things Must Pass again this week for some reason, particularly enjoying the Art of Dying which would have been an ace Beatles track, though the released version is obviously amazing too (wish Clapton would tone it down a little though). Have been poking around at other solo Beatles things I'd not given attention to in years, including Ringo's Rotogravure, which I had on vinyl as a kid (and liked! because I didn't know any better), and remembered that Harrison's track on that record was by far the standout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXg45wYBCcg

Harrison wrote this back during the ATMP era (or earlier? dunno) and recorded it for the album, but apparently never came up with a satisfactory take. All I've been able to find is this:

https://soundcloud.com/harrisonstories/george-harrison-whenever-ill

A real lost opportunity with this one.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

I think not intended for ATMP:

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/george-harrison-legal-action-against-ringo-over-ill-still-love-you.1100437/

Alba, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

ah, didn't see that. it's weird there is so little documented truthful information about this song; when harrison recorded, whether there was or was not some lawsuit. it's kind of rare in beatles quarters for something to remain a total mystery like this.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:48 (two years ago)

five months pass...

Happy birthday, bro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4xzwvaTWU

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 14:04 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Been listening to some of the albums I never loved. I think, even when it's not my favorite stuff, he didn't really indulge in just creating filler. Like on Extra Texture, I feel like I kinda get what he was going after with those songs and that there always seems to be some degree of musicality to the compositions that I find interesting at least.

Somewhere in England sounding pretty good to me lately.

timellison, Friday, 5 April 2024 01:10 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

I'm surprised no chatter over the Living in the Material World box set. The songs have never sounded so crisp. Maybe his best backup band too?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2024 15:48 (one year ago)

two months pass...

This tune
Has nothing bright about it

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 23:41 (one year ago)

two months pass...

That is all, Alfred.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 April 2025 17:54 (one year ago)

I was so young
When I was born

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2025 00:45 (one year ago)

Errm, where did you come across that website?

Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:50 (one year ago)

Facebook hence the "hmm"

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:02 (one year ago)

Jesus didn't realise FB algo had got quite that shit.

Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:05 (one year ago)

I saw one for Elvis Costello - same template. Bots I guess?

birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:21 (one year ago)

I read right down to the bottom in horror where it said

"Want a viral trailer title, social teaser, or thumbnail caption for this?"

Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:24 (one year ago)

LOL I've become my mother apparently.

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:36 (one year ago)

wrack my brain indeed

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:40 (one year ago)

Yeah, plus: how could that brisk 712-part Scorsese documentary on Harrison ever be topped?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 05:00 (one year ago)

I wish they'd pick a more ridiculous act for these hoaxes, like R.E.O. Speedwagon.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 05:21 (one year ago)

I would watch a seven-hour REO Speedwagon doc.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 14:42 (one year ago)

A 90 minute "special episode" devoted entirely to Kevin's changing hairstyles

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 15:08 (one year ago)

I would watch a seven-hour REO Speedwagon doc.

Scorsese would go deep into the origins of Kevin Cronin's perm.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:27 (one year ago)

Crap, beaten

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:28 (one year ago)

There's room for everybody's hair jokes in this Speedwagon

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:44 (one year ago)

See? Endless possibilities had said hoaxer gone in that direction.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 18:37 (one year ago)

From now on, I'm putting excessive periods into R.E.O. Speed.wagon.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 18:38 (one year ago)


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