Conrad Schnitzler S/D

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Which is the source of absolutely everything I know about him.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

thx milton

=[[ (eman), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know what austin is talking about?

xp: yeah! thanks milton, cause crack in the cosmic egg isn't exactly helpful re: tha schnizz.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

no idea what austin is referring to.

i've seen rot and blau talked up a lot but have yet to check them out due to laziness or whatever. still not quite sure what to expect but i'm kinda excited to finally hear them.

=[[ (eman), Sunday, 20 August 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

I am talking about The Bulldaggers, to wit: Savage Henry, Cthulhu, Nash the Slash, Hiroshima, and Conrad Schnitzler. See the Bugtown and Post Brothers series of comic books by Matt Howarth.

http://www.matthowarth.com/

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

sounds awful. fucking awful.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

the Art Gallery CD's are great .. I am surprised that (given his fandom) Milton sounds somewhat lukewarm on them upthread! I like em lots.

still haven't heard Gelb yet though .. GOTTA get that one soon..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 20 August 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

I like the three Art Gallery CDs I've heard, very wide range of moods. I just usually reach for Con more often.

Listened to Gelb four times in a row last night, beautifully weird, I think this one is one of my favorites now. Want to hear Live Action 77 and Charred Machinery.

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

The great lost Schnitzler album is Conal - the one that came out on the Norwegian Uniton label in 1981 or thereabouts. That's truly his masterpiece. Why has this one never been reissued on CD?

Or has it and I somehow missed it?

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard Berlin Express? I saw The Russians Are Coming at the thrift store the other day, but decided to pass on it ($1.99 that store charges for LPs. And they have a small section of LPs that they have arbitrarily put even higher prices on. Jerks). I did some research on it when I got home and it sounded more interesting, but it was gone when I went back to get it. I'm just wondering if I blew it or not.

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

Conal is great. I don't think it's ever come out on CD. Having never heard any recordings of the cassette concerts, where he'd live mix several different cassettes of improvised synth elements together into one gradually evolving swarming field, Conal sounds like a particularly well thought out cassette concert. Uniform EMS synthi tones, keeps moving through distinct places, even if it never really arrives anywhere.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I got into this guy as a teenager, on the strength of him playing a percussion intro on Mayhem's Deathcrush mini-LP. So he's the only member of Tangerine Dream mentioned by name in Sound of the Beast. His Mayhem song is called "Sylvester Anfang," it was recorded at the request of Euronymous from Mayhem, who visited Con in Berlin, and it's been recreated by Mayhem's drummer Hellhammer and others on typical way oversized black metal double-bass drum kit many times.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, there's no better assessment of his work than the 20,000 online reviews of Deathcrush, and what they have to say about the intro. Brilliant stuff!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 August 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Also check out Felix Kubin's tribute track "Schnitzler".

Herr Fahrstuhl (Herr Fahrstuhl), Sunday, 27 August 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
i just picked up the captain trip box set - wow!

it includes his 'disco' record from 1980 - the 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' ep - which has devastated my head.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

surprised you hadn't got that already stir.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

well frenchie, when this came out my nearest record shop was boots the chemist and i have a feeling they probably didn't carry it.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

yow

http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=848162

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

someone kick that ass in the nuts.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

also, hi record labels of the world - how about some conrad schnitzler reissues that stay in print for more than a month?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

for example he's trying to sell an old spalax version of "seligspreisung" (no remaster or bonus tracks) for $30 so obv he's charging idiotic prices

but i should still expect to spend $100-200 on the set, right?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 15 September 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

they were $26 around here when they came out ($22+shipping from the label, which is how i got them), so if they're "new" i'd bet on at least $125. i'm really wishing i had bought schwartz and rot (have the plate lunch jewel case version of the latter) now, didn't expect them to sell out so fast.

faux-xp: wait a minute, now that i look at that link... DVD? i don't recall a DVD ever being part of that set.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 15 September 2007 07:21 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUa4EFDc_M

Pictures from the 1969 film by Dietmar Buchmann shows scenes from Conrad Schnitzler's Zodiak Free Arts Lab

www.myspace.com/freeartslab

Milton Parker, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:09 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

"trigger trilogy"??

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

its weird that considering how you can't get people to shush about cluster / tangerine dream / neu / etc these days there's so little hype on kluster on the internet. what should i expect if i haven't heard them before? cluster 71 type of sound?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know about kluster, but did anybody buy the two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac last month, the ones with the dandy jack, bruno pronsato and thomas fehlmann remixes? they're great!

r1o natsume, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

xp: sort of. or a little like the first tangerine dream. or AMM or something. eh? water just put out a 3 disc kluster anthology with the albums and one unreleased (?) thing.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.jazzloft.com/p-47658-1970-1971-boxed-set.aspx

I love the first 3 Kluster records. They're studio recordings of live improvisations, a lot more murky and primitive than Cluster '71, but still great. Very much like an extension of all the most extreme noisy aspects of what Schnitzler was doing on the first Tangerine Dream record. First side of the first two albums have freakout religious texts recited in German on them which throws a lot of people off the trail. The original 90's CD issues on Hypnotic had bonus tracks taken from this which were wisely left off, there's no new material. When I heard these in the 90's they were a little too out for me, though I could respect them, but I come back to these every few years and they sound better every time, and when the noise CDR release scene started up and Spencer and Pete started handing me Skaters / Yellow Swans things, these Kluster records from 1970 were the first things I thought of

>two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac

I want these

Captain Trip also put these out, haven't heard any of the early 80's self-releases, I should check some of them out:

Early Self-Product Series - Including the 5 titles (CTCD-614-618) which are: -CONSEQUENZ -CONTEMPORA -CONTEXT -CONVEX - 1.7.84 - and a bonus CD (CTCD-619) in special outer box (totally 6CD box-set). This bonus CD is called 3.3.83 and was originally pressed in an edition of 1 copy for Conrad Schnitzler personally! Recorded in 1983, including bonus tracks. 2008 digital remaster version with stumped paper sleeve, same as the original.

haven't heard Trigger Trilogy either! It is just impossible to keep up with this guy. I'm still going back to Ballet Statique often enough that it's tough to move forward

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

Bumping for new reissue of the Silver LP from the colour series. Kinda tempted.

laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

Silver LP? What's that?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

Taken from sessions recorded at the same time as the colour series (Rot, Blau, Schwarz, etc). Unreleased, perhaps? Warning bells??

laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

All I know is it's a QBICO release. I saw it at Volcanic Tongue. Not much word about it elsewhere.

laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

samples sound ok to me, never heard any of that stuff before: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/341746-01.htm

simultaneously the best and the worst album cover.

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

Schnitzler also has the best lines in this: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34729/kraftwerk-and-the-electronic-revolution/

a little dry overall but worth seeing if you like Krautrock -- lots of Schnitzler / Roedelius / Moebius & Schulze being interviewed about Berlin / Düsseldorf 1960-1970. Organization isn't even mentioned until 40 minutes in, they're too busy talking about Zodiac Free Arts Lab.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

shouldn't have even linked to that review, though I can see why most Kraftwerk fans are going to be bored by the first hour of this DVD. I was laughing thinking about them during the 5 minute section where they're enthusiastically talking up the first three Kluster records, culminating in them finally fading up an excerpt: three people banging on metal plates and moaning into heavy tape echo

I love those records

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

samples of "silver" sound pretty good. i was just listening to GRUN or whatever this morning.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

does forced exposure still distro qbico? i just realized i haven't seen any of their releases in a long time.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:51 (seventeen years ago)

thx to this thread i am finally checking out the CON box set... and now i'm mad at myself for not doing it before. i can see 'con'/'ballet statique' quickly turning into an all time favorite

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:36 (seventeen years ago)

man "bie ie blaue blume blüht" off of the green one could totally use some kinda basic channel style rejiggering. not that it isn't brilliant already.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:24 (seventeen years ago)

If I love "Fabrik" (which I heard on the amazing Optimo Cold War mix), where do I go next with CS?

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

that's from "auf dem schwarzen kanal" from 1980. i think that was reissued on cd as con 2+, so that'd be a place to start, con is also pretty good.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals

Yes, that album's really good!

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:11 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

ok for years one of my favorite Schnitzler albums has been this absolutely stupid goofy cassette of 80's technopop that a friend dubbed me, no information available at all

Conrad Schnitzler/Gregor Schnitzler - Roofmusic = the bonus CD in that last Captain Trips box set

http://www.japanimprov.com/indies/captaintrip/berlinexpress.html

track 8 = 'Turkish Man Like To Dance'
track 9 = 'Tell me why you leave me now / Our love was good enough'

Milton Parker, Saturday, 15 August 2009 08:44 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off

'Consequenz II' is just as good, slightly even more together even. it's not music that develops, but the sounds are in and of themselves so disorienting that by the end of each 2 or 3 minute track you can get really bent out of shape

& people are still trying to catch up to something as pure as 'Windmill'

Milton Parker, Friday, 6 August 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Just bought Zug, a piece originally issued on The Red Cassette, now reissued on vinyl on a new label, m=minimal. Backed with remixes of the piece by Pole (!) and borngräber and strüver, whom I know nothing about. Currently listening for the first time, it's pretty & mindblowing at the same time.

willem, Thursday, 9 September 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Melody is the WORM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbKmFERgmI

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

LP of live recordings from 72 sounding amazing:

http://www.furtherrecords.org/index.html

prior, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:15 (fourteen years ago)

yep this track is incredible. would like to hear the rest.

http://soundcloud.com/alteredzones/conrad-schnitzler-track-12

dmr, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

think you can stream them from the Further site!

prior, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

RIP

From Wikipedia :

Conrad Schnitzler passed away from stomach cancer in the evening 4 August 2011

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\etc (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 August 2011 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

for what it's worth ILX has some folks who do small publishing (forget their usernames), they did chapbooks for Abbott and ZS

chancepress.com

sleeve, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

blurb.com books can look pretty nice too

original bgm, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

i think we're down to 2,994 now

<3 all of you

posting to ILM from my phone, in the hospital--today totally sucks :(

geeta, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

ugh, sympathies

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

conrad schnitzler archive & live cassette concert mixed by gen ken montgomery, streaming now on wfmu

with promised special guest appearence by g. dayal

Milton Parker, Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

Oh great!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

Very interesting. Only complaint is the background music playing during the interview parts is too loud.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

thanks for listening, you guys!

it was definitely worth extending my NYC trip for this, though i am now coming down with a lousy cold

geeta, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say even a cold was worth it, loved listening to it! Great and fitting tribute to a wonderful man <3

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

I had a splendid time listening to it yesterday Geeta, a very fitting tribute!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 October 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

Sometimes my friends would recognise me and come up to me, say, ‘Hey, Con, what are you doing?’ I would just speak to them in a robot voice through the loudspeaker. ‘I do not understand. I am not Con. Would you like to buy a cassette?’”

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

oh, there's a pic too

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/schnitzler__conrad/Schnitzler-street.jpg

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

wow that's great. people who figured out how to live imho.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

classic pic!

geeta, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

been listening to "Blau" a lot lately - does anyone know what the "Wild Space" bonus tracks are? very cool but clearly much more recent than the actual album!

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

now I'm onto Con..crazy how much "Ballet Statique" seems to have influenced Underworld

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

röt and blau reissued on bureau b!

picked up blau today, röt got backordered

here's hoping for schwarz, gelb, grön, con 1, con 2+ and con 3 ...

the late great, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

errr grün

the late great, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I got Blau, too. Already had it on CD but I'm more likely to listen to side-long electronic tracks on LP. Hope they do Schwarz et al, too!

Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)

think we talked about this on noize but the captain trip shit is so expensive at this point!

thank you again bureau b!

the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Got the m=minimal reissue of Ballet Statique / Con with the Red Cassette added on, amazing, where has this been all my life?

phuturephase, Friday, 8 February 2013 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

hey someone in new york go to this and post back

> The Last Weekend at AVA-Generator Saturday & Sunday
>
> Saturday September 14, 2013
>
> 12 - 6pm
> CONRAD SCHNITZLER
> SIX HOUR CASSETTE CONCERT
> CONDUCTED BY GEN KEN
> Drop by anytime Saturday for a rare opportunity to hear octophonic music composed
by one of the foremost masters of electronic music. Schnitzler studied sculpture
with Joseph Beuys before turning his attention to sound. Hear Schnitzler’s music
the way he wanted his audiences to hear it.
>
> THE LAST NIGHT AT AVA GENERATOR - Closing Party 8 - 11pm
>
> 9pm
> The Enchantress of Bioluminosity
> with live sound by Michael Zodorozny (Crash Course in Science) and Gen Ken Montgomery
> +
> 10pm
> 3D SLIDE SHOW by Lary Seven
> 3-D photographs taken at Generator 1989-1990

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:41 (twelve years ago)

http://audiovisualarts.org/5973/generator

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:43 (twelve years ago)

I went to this! the space was quite small but it was easy to get lost in the layers of sound and it was a real treat to be able to hear this stuff 'mixed' like that. 'gen ken' is a super nice guy too and had some amazing records and related memorabilia out.

I was unfamiliar with what was being played but I did hear some material in a 'symphonic' style I wasn't aware schnitzler had dabbled in. lots of synthesized strings and the playing was fairly busy. sorry if I'm being vague but I only caught bits here and there. would be very grateful if anyone could steer me towards any releases in schnitzler's catalog that might match this description!

original bgm, Monday, 23 September 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

gelb and grün reissued!

the late great, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:12 (eleven years ago)

i always hear his name in the voice of ned flanders saying 'white wine spritzer'

only listened briefly to the gelb reissue but it sounds really good

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:35 (eleven years ago)

Grun is pretty great if memory serves.

Temple of Infinite Grohls (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:34 (eleven years ago)

five years pass...

damn ballet statique fuckin' slaps

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:16 (six years ago)

not enough talk about Silber itt, that one's staggeringly great as well, some tracks are even melodic in a proto-Chris Carter kinda way. I love Asmus Tietchens liner notes where he plays detective trying to figure out what synth was used

the essential Bureau B reissue CDs have great bonus tracks to boot, some good stuff on the Gelb CD too

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:14 (six years ago)

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1jboetIMs

Have watched this a bunch of times, but didn't realize it was posted by his official YouTube channel, or that there were dozens of other videos to check out.

lukas, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:22 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Couple of Bureau B rereleases happening:

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/con-84

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/consequenz-ii

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 May 2022 15:45 (four years ago)


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