Ween. Are they great or what?

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Man, I'll tell ya. I love Ween. Even now, after I've listened to all their albums over and over and over again. They somehow manage to be serious and funny at the same time, which is rare and wonderful. I think TMBG is mostly silly. Gloriously silly, yes, but I never feel like it's anything but an elaborate, literate joke. Ween is, like, somehow both utterly ridiculous and juvenile but also strangely affecting and almost sweet sometimes. It seems more sincere in it's absurdity, I suppose. Plus, it also rocks, which TMBG doesn't really.

I'd love to see them live again, but they don't appear to be venturing to New England any time soon. Best Ween live experience: Burlington, VT, Halloween 2003. During "LMLYP" some crazed hippie on stilts in a gigantic cat costume, complete with huge papier mache head, came out on stage. Plus, viking helmets and wizard hats and extremely short loincloth-esque thing on Deaner. And three people in an actual Poop Ship Destroyer costume.

Also, I seem to be one of the few female Ween fans. I've only known one personally, and I'm not sure that I've seen too many at shows. Girl Ween fans hollah at me?

Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

If my sister were one for the Net I'd refer her to this thread. She LOVES Ween, in fact I think they're still her favorite band of all time. She made them hot meals, she's danced onstage with 'em to "LMLYP," etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

trash.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see/hear/read that Rollins rant if someone could post a link...

cdwill (cdwill), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have it on my PC at home, I think! Will (hopefully) be back with it later.

Apparently Ween and the creators of Spongebob Squarepants have a pretty good relationship...not only was "Ocean Man" in the movie OST (in the coveted as-the-credits-begin-to-roll spot), but they did a song about HOW TO TIE YOUR SHOES for one episode that totally owns! Also, Spongebob once said something about his pet snail Gary's "wandering eye...you little mollusk, you!".

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I like They Might Be Giants, and even I can't stand Ween.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

So TMBG is the hipster equivalent to Ween?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is this even a question?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

TMBG and Ween are actually, like, totally dissimilar, other than the were-duos-now-they're-not thing.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

i lump tmbg in with gbv and aywkubttod and other bands whose names are self-referential in a vaguely threatening/sinister manner, but who are actually easily defeatable

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm the opposite. Ween has many, many songs that are not LAFF LAFF CLEVER CUTE SNEER SHITTY NASAL SINGING LAFF LAFF. Which, to my understanding, is the entire premise of TMBG. but admittedly, I haven't heard everything they done.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

You know, the "They" in They Might Be Giants actually DOESN'T refer to them. They say their name is like frightened people looking out there windows..."beware the out there...THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS"!

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I seem to be one of the few female Ween fans. I've only known one personally, and I'm not sure that I've seen too many at shows. Girl Ween fans hollah at me?

Man, I fucking LOVE Ween! I was at a show years ago and it was ex-cel... Well, uh, excellent. I remember they did this jam thing while a woman was dancing. I think they just stretched for a good twenty minutes just to have a laugh at her expense. Great show.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

there = their, I can't believe I did that

FWIW I know shit tons of female Ween fans...not quite as rare as female PRIMUS fans.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

i realized the gender gap re: primus when a frizzle fry tee that a bro of mine was wearing scared the shit out of a few girls.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

though everyone liked wynonna's big brown beaver

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

ween are better now at singing and playing guitar but worse at making records.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, they copped Pink Floyd on Quebec, but it was still one of their most cohesive albums. Some great songs on there, too. Tried and True, Happy Colored Marbles, etc. I also think White Pepper is a bit underrated. If anything, I think they're getting better at making albums. Admittedly they've matured as a band, and maturity is probably the one description a lot of fans don't want applied to Ween.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

something about ween seems very masculine, not in a macho kind of way, but in a boy's club, teenage kind of way. not to say they're always so juvenile and stupid, but you know what i mean, right? i can see it not appealing as much to women as to men, but then again what do i know. i like fart jokes.

i also like primus. if you come buy a copy of les claypool's new album at my record store in bangor, and we sell more than anyone else in any of the stores participating in this little contest, les will come eat pizza and drink beer with us. no foolin'! i know you won't!

Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Used to be my favorite band. Took a turn for the worse at the beginning of the decade.

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha, my answer to Ned was more flippant than anything. I just think they're both annoying in a clever-clever way. they certainly don't sound very alike.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Over the years, Ween has penned a series of oddly sincere break-up songs. They're working with a much broader palette than TMBG, or most other bands for that matter.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I want to drag out this comparison any further.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

otm

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to White Pepper again a couple of times recently, and if you can forget that you're listening to Ween (admittedly difficult) there's actually some pretty good songs on that record. You can enjoy the entire album without laughing once.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

yes theres like 3 rockin awesome songs. but like godweensatan is a barrage of awesomeness just hitting you one glorious track after the other.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a GodWeenSatan fan (and a The Pod fan - after that, it depends on what kind of mood I'm in), so you won't get an argument from me. (Okay, there are some tracks on GWS that I skip, but overall, yeah, it blows their later stuff away.)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

J is kinda surprised that Matos hates Ween, actually.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.starkecontrasts.com/gallery/jimmy.jpg

gear (gear), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

he should love their early twisting of PRINCE-y aethstetics. oh well.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

J is kinda surprised that Matos hates Ween, actually.

-- J
Mark feels the same way. This does not compute.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

"Bananas and Blow" so real

Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 18 April 2008 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

"fluffy, my furry buddy, chewed his leg on the porch"

internet treehouse for gay nazi aspie fagz (jdchurchill), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

I saw them on the tour for that country album, and ... okay, you know a regular Ween crowd? Which is already like a Noah's Ark of different varieties of drug-addled weirdos? Add to that country weirdos. Seriously the strangest crowd I have ever stood in.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

they're my favorite band. but la cucaracha was a huge letdown.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 18 June 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)

no way. "woman and man" is their epic -- it's worth it just for that

kamerad, Friday, 18 June 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)

La Cucaracha was a huge comeback.

dyaon't (sic), Friday, 18 June 2010 04:24 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

broke up.

found out via el-p's twitter

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/aaron-freeman-closes-the-book-on-ween-20120529

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

no one cares

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

*drops bong*

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:30 (fourteen years ago)

I care, this is a huge bummer.

As a sidenote, has anyone heard that Aaron Freeman record of Rod McKuen covers? Wondered if that was worth checking out.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:32 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, it's sad in the same way hearing that a couple you were friends with but haven't talked to in over a decade broke up is sad. Honestly, though, if this is what Aaron Freeman needs to stay clean and sober, I couldn't be happier.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:32 (fourteen years ago)

DWH otm. Sounds like he just needs to make the split to keep himself in a place where he can stay clean.

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:41 (fourteen years ago)

xp otm

I'd love for them to make more albums as strong as latter-day shit like La Cucaracha & Quebec, but they had a great run & I'm perfectly comfortable with the (frankly incredible) range of material they've released over the past 20+ years. Their live shows were legendary & I will definitely miss those, but I have to imagine that this is the kind of 'breakup' which can easily be dusted off when for the occasional one-off or small tour whenever they get the urge.

Carnage of PJ Soles (Pillbox), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:47 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know about this. It just seemed like an off-the-cuff remark and the journalist totally ran with it.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

Naw, there's plenty of "this is the end" type verbiage in the interview.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:55 (fourteen years ago)

"or what"

some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

I know, I know. I'm just in denial. (x-post)

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 23:00 (fourteen years ago)

Can I just point out how many amazing headlines the author of that piece totally missed out on?

Aaron Freeman Cuts Ween Short
Ween: Aaron Freeman Pulls Out
Happy Trails To Aaron Freeman's Ween

Although the headline isn't bad, as is.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

Whoops, sleeve posted it already, whoops

bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:04 (one year ago)

ha no prob

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:08 (one year ago)

also frogbs u should sell that shit ASAP lol

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I've got a White Pepper which is also apparently worth over 100 (bought for $19.99 a couple years ago, lol), maybe I'll offer them up in the Ween FB group for $80 apiece or something. you'd think they'd get a repress given The Pod and C&C did but god, you never fuckin know with these guys. I mean look what's going on with them now, seems like all is not right in the Ween camp, hard to tell if it's just someone getting Covid or some real shit (it's been rumored that Dean is battling the same demons Gene was) but the fact that they aren't saying anything does make me worry

frogbs, Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:11 (one year ago)

Ugh, yeah, hope they are doing alright.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:14 (one year ago)

Aaron posted a message somewhere saying that he’s gotten a lot of concerned messages and he wants people to know that he is okay and also very disappointed in the cancelled shows.

I picked up the C&C reissue but haven’t spent time with it yet. They were cranking out so much gold at this point, any unreleased stuff is great.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:17 (one year ago)

that whole 94-03 run really, I mean imagine reissues of Mollusk or Quebec with 40 minutes of bonus material

frogbs, Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:23 (one year ago)

There is a ton of stuff out there, circulating. It would be great to have some of it curated and cleaned up.

A b-sides collection would be great. Maybe that’s why that sort of stuff wasn’t included with the reissue.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 8 August 2024 22:57 (one year ago)

I think Deaner once said he wasn't open to doing a Shinola Vol. 2 because the first one was a lot more labor intensive than he thought and he's not a fan of mining his own archives and instead likes to move forward. wonder if that's changed now that they aren't really making new music anymore. would be nice, I know "how on Earth did this song not make the cut while that one is" is a question you ask of a lot of bands but it especially applies to Ween

frogbs, Thursday, 8 August 2024 23:01 (one year ago)

Best thing about this anniversary reissue is that in my country it has finally unblocked C&C to stream on spotify.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 9 August 2024 00:32 (one year ago)

haven't relistened to it in a while but I remember last time I did I was blown away by how slow Take Me Away seemed after being so used to the Live in Chicago version. if it was on vinyl I probably would have gotten up to check the pitch slider. similar thing happened with King Crimson's Elephant Talk

frogbs, Friday, 9 August 2024 00:35 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Ugh, hoping for the best for Deaner.

It is with sincere regret and heavy hearts that Ween must make the decision to step away from the stage for the foreseeable future. This includes next month’s sold-out Chocolate and Cheese 25th Anniversary show at the Mann Music Center in Philadelphia. Despite three great shows this summer, it’s become clear that touring and performing is too taxing on Deaner’s mental health to continue. As always, we thank you for the love, dedication and ongoing support.

- Ween

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 August 2024 15:00 (one year ago)

yeah i had a feeling something bad was going on behind the scenes. kinda passive-aggressive wording there too. hope he's gonna be alright. fwiw I do know Deaner's talked many times in the past about how he never wanted to just be some touring act but that's exactly what they are now. like I'm pretty sure there's an interview where he once said he'd rather the band break up than do these kinds of anniversary shows.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

which is totally fair, and I know it brings another set of stressors and challenges and is easier said than done, but there is one weird trick to not just be a touring anniversary show, which would be to also make a new Ween record!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:23 (one year ago)

yeah the fact that they haven't recorded anything at all suggests their relationship is kinda shit. I mean the long and short of it is Gene/Dean solo shows would get like 100 people while Ween still draws a huge crowd

frogbs, Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:28 (one year ago)

Ween draws a much bigger crowd now than they ever have -- they were still playing 1500-2000 capacity venues a couple years before the hiatus, but now they're more like a 5k-10k band (and will sell out!).

Slim is an Alien, Thursday, 29 August 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

the local record store dude remarks on it a lot, a ton of young folks come in asking for Ween records, he apparently sold all 6 copies of the C&C reissue in 30 minutes despite the high price point. I'm not sure why that is either. Ween rule of course but so do a lot of bands. must be the Spongebob effect.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 August 2024 19:15 (one year ago)

Gener and Deaner are the proto-memers. If ever there was a band for teenage Gen Z'ers, Ween is it (but yes spongebob helps)

H.P, Thursday, 29 August 2024 21:56 (one year ago)

It did seem a bit pricey but even the Plain reissues were going for a grip, this has a whole album of "studio" outtakes (they haven't really done that ever, just live right?) and much more legit mastering (which like who cares right, but a lot of people are down on Plain reissues generally speaking).

encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:26 (one year ago)

"or what"

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lol i came in here to post this again

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THREEPEAT

some dude, Saturday, 31 August 2024 20:50 (one year ago)

hopefully the other LPs get deluxe reissues too, there's just so much great non album material out there, probably a bunch we don't even know about.

frogbs, Monday, 2 September 2024 01:59 (one year ago)

absolutely, would love a Pure Guava deluxe. also, glad that the bonus stuff is on the streaming version.

encino morricone (majorairbro), Tuesday, 3 September 2024 05:59 (one year ago)

one year passes...

just got the White Pepper reissue. if you have the Plain Records one you know how bad it sucks. it's flat, lifeless, and kinda noisy to boot. this one cranks the bass levels up to a kinda absurd degree..."Pandy Fackler" for instance doesn't really need to sound like that...but it's miles ahead of the Plain. "Stay Forever"...what a tune

(also, as someone who watches a lot of Spongebob with my daughter...there are definitely some Spongebob vibes on this album...obviously not as much as The Mollusk...but it's there)

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2026 19:58 (four weeks ago)

sad lol: looks like another live set called "Bad Day in Brownsville" was just released on YouTube, and then suddenly pulled, possibly because of this:

https://www.actionnews5.com/2026/05/11/not-satisfied-until-people-who-did-this-are-brought-justice-brownsville-mayor-responds-mass-shooting/

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 17:17 (three weeks ago)

That's not a live set. Appears to be an expanded reissue of 12 Golden Country greats!

https://glidemagazine.com/325555/weens-12-golden-country-greats-gets-30th-anniversary-3-lp-reissue-with-previously-unreleased-material/

ringworm, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 06:24 (three weeks ago)

Oh man, I hope they do this with all of their albums. They have so much good stuff in the can.

I have the White Pepper reissue but I haven't had a chance to listen to it. It's a pretty bass heavy album to begin with, especially on "Exactly Where I'm At."

It's a good time to be a Ween fan! There's also the Ween in Europe rsd thing that came out.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 15:10 (three weeks ago)

I'd like to see the pod and pure guava get the deluxe treatment.

ringworm, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:02 (three weeks ago)

Apropos of nothing, "Fluffy" is my favorite Ween song right now.

scarce due to allocated reason (WmC), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:25 (three weeks ago)

yea it's crazy they probably could've done 3 more great albums between '95 and '03 with the amount of material they have, so much of that deserves to see the light of day. apparently the recent reissues of White Pepper and quebec were just to get them out there at affordable prices, so there may be a deluxe of those coming at some point. the fact that Mollusk was not included hints that that'll be the next one.

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:34 (three weeks ago)

also kind of interesting that they've been doing all this archival stuff but thus far I don't think there's a single release from their 2016-2025 'reunion' shows?

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:37 (three weeks ago)

I am so glad they are bringing this one out on CD too! was so bummed they didn't for Chocolate and Cheese. I mean, the bonus stuff is cool, but not $70 worth of cool!

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:58 (three weeks ago)

Would love a Brown Box style reissue of all the live stuff

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:34 (three weeks ago)

^^ otm

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:59 (three weeks ago)

Ween Fan Fiction: Deaner got sober after the last cancelled tour and him and Gener are going to lock themselves in a cabin and record a new album and then tour it as a duo with a tape deck and they live happily ever after.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 14 May 2026 10:39 (three weeks ago)


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