― gaz (gaz), Friday, 27 June 2003 13:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
(NB this was a band whom I worshipped in high school, so the standard exceptions apply, etc)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 27 June 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 June 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ... And suddenly Ian Riese-Moraine is a naked man saying, 'Volvo! Volvo!' (Easte, Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm still on a CV trip. Got around to listening to the 3rd CD of the "Conform To Deform" 3-CD set, this one being an Edinburgh gig from 1990 and I was really impressed. Most live gigs are either a bit too rough or a bit too rote and controlled, I think, but they pulled it off with grace. And it's interesting how tuneful the vocals suddenly got on their material then.
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― ... And suddenly Ian Riese-Moraine is a naked man saying, 'Volvo! Volvo!' (Easte, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
"Seconds Too Late"
"Don't Argue" (Sherwood mix)
And a lot of Hai!.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I thought you knew your Cabaret Voltaire!
sorry.
favorites?
Is that the version of Don't Argue with the women singing "no no no no no, better watch yourself boy?" If so, put that on my list.
My faves:
Breathe DeepYashar (John Robie Re-production)InvocationDiskonoA Thousand WaysRed MaskMotion RotationAnimationTalk OverThe Set UpSilent CommandNag Nag NagJazz The GlassKNEEL TO THE BOSS!!!!SensoriaTrust in the Lord
for starters...
and I really love Richard H. Kirk's Virtual State, which doesn't get enough love.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Uh, Ian was right. It's Eastern Mantra, not Easter. Looks like you and I both should brush up on our Cabs, Dan! :)
As for faves, I'd probably pick Code, Sex Money Freaks, Just Fascination, and Shakedown. But there are so damn many others, too!
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
the second time.
the first time was what we call a "typo".
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
The Living Legends is just a shit-hot compilation all around, even if I've heard half of it before. Much better collection of songs than that Original Sound of Sheffield 78-82 thing.
"Jazz The Glass" is about twice as good as I thought they were even capable of.
"A Thousand Ways" is also very good.
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine eats nation-states for breakfast! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyone tried any Kirk stuff? Did he have solo stuff out then? I'm becoming such a fiend I'm even thinking of getting the silly Methodology mid-70's stuff, which I know I won't like most of, but that song "The Single" is so hilarious. I don't know how they even managed to record that without falling into fits of laughter in the process!
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.thegreedyeye.com/
His first release was Disposable Half Truths in 1980, was that on Industrial? Did Industrial still exist, I think he had something on Industrial. I've never heard this.
Then in 83 he put out Time High Fiction, which has similar art processing to the Crackdown but it more raw and experimental if I remember. It's supposed to come with a second record featuring 2 20 minutes songs but my copy had 2 copies of the LP! This is prob. the same time the Crackdown came out with the bonus ep(which, if you're unfortunate enough to have only found the single vinyl Crackdown, you need to get, because it is AWESOME.)
In 1986 he put out two records, one I have on vinyl, the other I downloaded. Ugly Spirit is raw, low-fi, industrial, perhaps closest to the Crepuscule period stuff. Black Jesus Voice however is a totally killer electro record. Great avant-hip-hop/breakdance stuff.
His next stuff would be the Sweet Exorcist records, which is listed on that site as a collaboration. I forget with home. Pretty essential early UK Bleep techno.
1993 I was a freshman in college and he started going crazy. First with 2 great techno CDs. I don't know which one was first. Sandoz was initially his "ethno-techno" project, songs built around african samples and such, and I remember loving the Digital Lifeforms CD, though I lost it ages ago. It's been reissued w/ bonus stuff. Then his first release as Kirk since 86 was his entry into the Warp Artificial Intelligence series, Virtual State. It fits in nicely with the surrounding records of the series, Aphex Twin as Polygon Window, Black Dog Productions, B12 etc. It's an exceptionally warm and beautiful techno record, when the idea of techno as music not made for dancing was an exciting idea. One of my favorite records of the period.
Around that time, he was using the Cabaret Voltaire name for mostly really long sample based ambient stuff that I never got that into. Then he started releasing stuff under a million names and I lost track. Recently he got more into some hard digital dub kinds of stuff, some of which sounded way cool. Nick Gutterbreakz writes about him a lot:
http://gutterbreakz.blogspot.com/
check the archives.
I have the 3CD cabs disk, but not the solo Kirk one, Earlier/Later.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
And I was truly transported into an alternate reality. BEYOND anything Cabaret Voltaire have ever done. Beyond anything Cabaret Voltaire-related, even. I felt like I had been drafted into the movie "2001" and time was moving backwards at a very fast rate. This was NOT Kansas anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
I love that sped-up sample of the woman's voice, too where she keeps saying, in chipmunk fashion "no fucking chance at all...no fucking chance at all..." That is hilarious.
― The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
where are they hiding?
― Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Saturday, 21 January 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bimble drinks silver coffee when you're fast asleep (Bimble...), Sunday, 22 January 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Love to know the origin of this sample - always puzzled me, as there aren't 70 billion people anywhere.
― soukesian, Sunday, 22 January 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, sorry, they're ants.
― Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
almost makes me regret getting rid of 'groovy laid back and nasty'. almost.
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost : it has been years since i was in the mood for their funk, but today its not going to be anything else but - i just know it...
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.dustscience.com/FrontPage/RichardHKirk-FearProject.php
yummy yummy
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
look carefully at the proposed line up :
http://www.thestar.co.uk/rotherham/Antiracism-rock-festival.4279091.jp
steve mallinder has been back in the uk now for a while so obviously things are back on track.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 July 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link
!!!
― J0hn D., Thursday, 17 July 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i have been advised that this is not confirmed, and that in the past promoters have advertised a solo set by RHK as being a CV show. still, seeing as Stephen is uk based there is at least a possiblilty that this is ferreal.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 July 2008 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link
One of the top 5 best bands ever? I mean who the fuck cares about Kraftwerk when you've got Sensoria? Even as it is, only a tiny miniscule of their brilliance, and yet it's still probably the best music video ever made:
(The Mind Boggles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfzXq0tA3c
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:38 (sixteen years ago) link
did I mention I'm more goth than you?
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, I reckon I'm goth enough . . anyway, forgotten just how great 'Sensoria' sounds - played the 12" for weeks after it came out. It's a disgrace that I don't own all of the Cabs work on any modern format.
Consider me agog for any news on a reunion.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Re Disposable Half-Truths: Someone at the Princeton Record Exchange talked me into buying that cassette when I was 15. I had heard "Nag3" on Wanna Buy A Bridge? but had no conception of "industrial" music beyond that.
Fuck. Scariest music I ever heard up to that point (excluding "Revolution 9"). I remember listening to it on my Walkman as my parents drove us home through the Mercer County burbs, all the while that chant of "no fucking chance at all...no fucking chance at all..." echoing in my brain.
― mike a, Sunday, 20 July 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Bimble is most assuredly not more goth than me as real goths were disgusted with sell-out Sensoria and won't suffer any Cabs later than the Fools Game/Eddie's Out 12".
― J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link
basically, if you can understand what Mallinder's saying and you still like it, you gotta turn in yr goth card
― J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the early-middle period Cabaret Voltaire. Still dark and weird, but getting a little pop. Kinda like the UK electronic version of Chrome. For some reason I put them along the same lines.
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link
lol I did not spell that right AT ALL
― NickB, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
In case you're wondering...
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw2kduusdT1qedb29o1_1280.jpg
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link
i believe that tik tok with red mecca is what is called a 'joke'
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
tom d : yeah, sorry, i have no idea what thats referring to ..
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Or_So_It_Seems
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link
ta for the pointer.never heard of that, life pre internet.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link
xxxp booooo I want to believe
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link
as per earlier.i loved the CODE era.some of the 12" versions of that era were so good.this is a perfect example where they got it spot on re major label big budget vs old school CV juddering synths + vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3CM2zaQMho
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
from the comments on that tweet someone has done a mashup of Nag Nag Nag + All Too Well by Taylor Swift https://www.dailyreckless.com/2023/07/12/cabaret-voltaylor/
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 July 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
thats rather good.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
my fave CODE era remix is this one where François Kevorkian and Adrian Sherwood collide and head off into outer space xtc (around the 4 minute mark is where it really takes off, or rather spaces right out). The original promo had an added sample from 'Blue Velvet' of Dennis Hopper shouting Don't You Fucking Look At Me! but i guess EMI's legal dept made them drop that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fax2gN6ADP0
― stirmonster, Friday, 14 July 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link
Cabaret Voltayre
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 July 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link
xp daaaaaaamn
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 14 July 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link
i knew it was going to be that mix.of course it's £££ on discogs via the cd single, and unavailable via digital outlets.there have been rumours re a proper reissue of CODE.i'm hoping for a proper expanded edition with all the remixes ..
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
That's a great mix! I'm one of the "Virgin era is prime" fans (Drinking Gasoline!), but I've never spent the time on the post Arm of the Lord era that I really should.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 14 July 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
CODE is great of course (biassed me !? surely not), Groovy Laid Back is different, and not a CV album that gets a lot of love, however, the CV remixes of the GLB&N tracks that came with the extra 12" are much better (all of them are included on the brilliant 'Remixed' compilation).The Conversation is ambient-techno with very little involvement from SM, but very good if you like that kind of thing.And that's where i stepped away until the recent 'revival' of the name, which was effectively RHK in solo mode.
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
Here's the mix with the sample:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLtA1R2DUfU
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 July 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link
yeah, i thought i had a mix with the sample on it.that mix is also included on the Remixed compilation.'Remixed' + 'The Original Sound of Sheffield 83-87' : both are brilliant entry points to this era.
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link
I really like some of the post code pre ambient club tracks that really just sound like solo sandoz sweet exorcist Kirk tracks with the occasional interjection from Mal saying something like “Colours…colors”
― dan selzer, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
Cabaret Voltaire's Postcode: NG7 7EW
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
dont get me wrong, i absolutely love RHK 'solo' stuff.but for some reason i gave up re CV after 'The Conversation'.suspect it was mainly due to the scarcity of finding the cd editions, and now they are £££.
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
i did manage to find this in the bins once though, which is basically an album and includes his SE cohort Parrot :
https://www.discogs.com/release/34719-Cabaret-Voltaire-Percussion-Force
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
lol.
Here's the mix with the sample:
ah! memory mix-up!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 15 July 2023 07:45 (one year ago) link
by the way noted poster JCLC posted this amazing Crackdown-era Dutch radio set on FB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCJGRGQ8uq0
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 15 July 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
that set is so good!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 16 July 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link
but for some reason i gave up re CV after 'The Conversation'.suspect it was mainly due to the scarcity of finding the cd editions, and now they are £££.
the only ones after that are the modern albums, are those actually OOP? I see them on vinyl all the time
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 16 July 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link
(those albuums don't do a whole lot for me, I think I gave shadow of fear and dekadrone each one listen)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 16 July 2023 03:46 (one year ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
ooops. i got the chronology incorrect.
i missed out on 'body and soul', 'plasticity', and 'international language' as i never saw them out in the real world, but i did pick up 'the conversation'.
as for the recent albums, i really loved 'shadow of fear', and the 'shadow of funk' ep.i got the two drone albums of course, but its not often i'm in the mood for them.actually the best CV like release for me by RHK, was his last 'solo' album, Dasein.
― mark e, Sunday, 16 July 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link
Mallinder's recent solo album (not Wrangler) is really excellent.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link
Dasein is great.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link
Am i correct in thinking those early 90s albums (which are not that compelling) are more or less Kirk solo albums? If so, was there some falling out between Mallinder and Kirk?
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 16 July 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
i think Plasticity is pretty good but does feel more like a RHK solo album, despite some Mallinder involvement.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 16 July 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
suspect i would love all of the RHK/CV releases now given how much i have succumbed to the RHK solo thing.also, there are the 2 CV releases that seem to have been forgotten about.once RHK had the name, he made 2 remix albums using the CV brand.tDR did the art, and amrik 'fon records' rai sorted out the logistics.personally, i love both remix albums as they definitely have the CV sound via the juddering synths.
https://www.discogs.com/master/244139-Kora-Cabaret-Voltaire-Kora-Kora-Kora-The-Cabaret-Voltaire-Versions
https://www.discogs.com/release/2306312-The-Tivoli-Vs-Cabaret-Voltaire-National-Service-Rewind
― mark e, Sunday, 16 July 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link