creatively bankrupt newish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

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The Happy Days and Brady Bunch references seemed different in my era (I was 19 when the Buddy Holly video came out), in that everyone grew up watching the same syndicated reruns, but you didn't know that everyone all over the country was doing the exact the same thing. Referencing these things felt like a shared secret history of some sort, which seems impossible to have post-internet when even obscure stuff isn't really obscure anymore.

OK, I guess this is the problem for me because I don't feel that way at all. I was 17 when that video came out. Never watched the Brady Bunch (thought it was old/dumb/for girls), but I would have assumed that everyone across the country was watching the same stuff anyway. And I do think these new names have a bit of that "shared secret history" to them simply because they are generational signifiers. Some of this stuff I'm only vaguely aware of due to younger relatives, but older people would certainly never get some of the cartoon and video game references.

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

and yes, i do think a crucial diff is that the bands used more obscure references. Like they found poetry inside junk culture to exploit ie,

in the chillwave era a decent band name like Dash Rip Rock would just be called The Beverly Hillbillies. Toad The Wet Sprocket would be called Monty Pyyython and Eve's Plumb would be called Brady Bunch

krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

these new names have a bit of that "shared secret history" to them simply because they are generational signifiers

but if you're on the internet as much as these guys, you start to LOSE the generational signifier because TMNT references start to belong to everybody, all the fucking time, constantly.

I was too old for Pokemons but I know SO MUCH ABOUT THEM just from being on the internet.

krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

i also think it has a lot to do with the rise of internet and "remix" culture or whatever.. rather than abstract a reference from the object, they'll just opt to simply use the object i.e. photoshops

▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼ (LOLK), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

like the only true way to do it is to pick more obscure references, so people of your generation can share a joke that isn't being LOL STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE-d to death on Adult Swim

krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

xxpost didnt see your post whiney but otm

▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼ (LOLK), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

emil.y, if you are under 30 if someone says the word "ducktails" to you there is exactly one thing you think of, and don't try to pretend otherwise

― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, July 30, 2010 4:53 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

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titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

actually whiney your new display name makes me think that "krippendorf's tribe" would be a pretty cool post-anco band time

titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

i didn't really feel like the Buddy Holly/Eve's Plumb pop cult-referencing band names were part of anything secret or shared with people i had some bond with. i watched the Brady Bunch, but plenty of annoying people that i thought were dumb also did, though i was more dismissive of people that watched "full house." i probably felt closer to the way Whiney feels about these current "creatively bankrupt" bands.

my best friend in college - this was 1995 - bought a record by a band named Grover, because "awww Grover from Sesame Street!" - and they had a song called "Hole in my Eye" that was pretty great.

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

I grew up in the middle of nowhere and never traveled much so my concept of mass culture wasn't really all that mass, nor were things like the Brady Bunch really all that popular when I was ten years old - the show had been off the air for ten years and there wasn't yet movie remakes or off broadway ironic musicals about it.

Seeing references to junk culture like this in popular music felt different, because it was much harder (especially in small towns) to seek out and find other people who were into the same things that you were. You didn't know they existed or that there were so many of them, when now you can find a huge group of people devoted to stuff that was crazy obscure 15 years ago.

joygoat, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

but if you're on the internet as much as these guys, you start to LOSE the generational signifier because TMNT references start to belong to everybody, all the fucking time, constantly.

I was too old for Pokemons but I know SO MUCH ABOUT THEM just from being on the internet.

Well, that's perhaps an interesting larger point about people trying to stay younger and clued in for longer and the internet making that easy. I mean I'm 33 and have a kid, why the hell have I even heard of any of these bands or even care?

The generational divide used to sometimes mean that older people were actively hostile to the way the kids dressed or whatever. Now we just want to copy them so we can be cool dads and stay "relevant." So maybe the only way for them to really get to us is to name their band Reading Rainbow or some shit and we get all mad and "back in my day..."

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

that the 90s were a very different time.

when all the poets studied rows of verse and ladies rolled their eyes, presumably

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

lol Shakey! Whiney wishes he were on a great big clipper ship going from this land into that (never mind the risk of scurvy)

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

in the chillwave era a decent band name like Dash Rip Rock would just be called The Beverly Hillbillies. Toad The Wet Sprocket would be called Monty Pyyython and Eve's Plumb would be called Brady Bunch

See, I still have a problem with this because they're all pretty terrible band names. I don't think any of those three examples are decent and your made up ones are pretty much an across the board improvement.

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

rows of verse

rosy verse surely? ducktails/ducktales

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

what if they were called Thee Bevverly Hillbillies? would that be an improvement?

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

See, I still have a problem with this because they're all pretty terrible band names. I don't think any of those three examples are decent and your made up ones are pretty much an across the board improvement.

nah even the made up ones are bad. but the original ones are worse, yr right about that

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

at this point, bands should just resort to a numbering system

dude have you heard 5887933176? MINDBLOWING

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

btw alternate version of that lyric = rules of verse?

Lou's pronunciation of that line is very weird

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

Beverly Kills Billy

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

not matter how many words you use, it all adds up to these band names are hilarious

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

So I think in the end we can all agree that the problem with kids these days is that they're not using enough puns in their band names?

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

at least make a rudimentary attempt at a punning

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

like Rudimentary Punni?

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

'old man yells at chillcloud'

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

Full Blouse, whose album cover would be John Stamos' head superimposed on a Guess Jeans add photo?

grandavis, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

seems like there's gotta just be a band called Stamos out there, right?

tylerw, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

is there a band named wind sprint I thought of that yesterday

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

but tbh I originally thought of it to be a name for some type of weed or something

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

at least make your art have cool shit in it like a hand drawing itself or a guy looking at his reflection in a crystal ball

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

would smoke some stamos tbh

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

O_o

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

chillwave band would obvs be called 'uncle jesse' u guys have no feel for this

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

http://dakkster.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/duck-hunt-oshi.gif

van smack, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

is there a noize band called Duck Cunt?

tylerw, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh shit

van smack, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

chillwave band would obvs be called 'uncle jesse' u guys have no feel for this
i dunno, I think STAMOS kinda has more mystery to it, more of a chill vibe.

tylerw, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

have we commented on that this chillwave has hella noise influences cause it does

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

apparently a lot of former LA noizers are now in chillwave bands

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

noise attempts to take it easy, write a song

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

obviously in 10 years the natural conclusion to this would be today's 10-year-olds naming their bands after memes like Tay Zonday and The Chocolate Reign and feelsgoodman and Longcat

krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

maybe 40 year old Whiney could guest with up-and-coming lolwave band, hipsterpuppies

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

RON PAUL

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

Airwolf would be a nice mix of '80s ephemera and wolf. Add some badass helicopter pix, a little Jan Michael Vincent and a dash of Ernest Borgnine -> profit.

wk, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

James Ferrari

van smack, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

Sky Ferrari

Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

AIDS Panda Bear

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

in the future all bands will be named after ILM threads

Controversial Mod Edit will have the album of the year in 2020

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

Cooldogmowinglawn

sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)


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