Rolling Metal Thread 2010

...pity poor, petty Petty.

free lollin

saw an immolation/arsis/disma show last night. I'm sure most of y'all are familiar with the first two bands and they both killed it. (in particular, arsis were a total blast.) but I'd never heard of disma before and came away impressed. thick, chunky death metal that rarely rose above mid-tempo and frequently dropped well below for a taste of doom. very satisfying.

Yeah, I really had a soft spot for City of Evil when it came out. Not a GREAT album or anything, but pretty fun. The self-titled was probably one of the worst albums I've heard in the last five years. The new one balances between those two, half the tracks are goddamned awful and half of them are kind of fun. As Phil noted, some great solos scattered throughout.

Skipping Iron Maiden tonight. Tickets were/are €60 - I can buy a lot of groceries with that. Funny how one's priorities change when one gets older.

Caught Boris a couple days ago (there are other comments scattered in the Boris threads). Think I've caught 'em four times now. The show wasn't as purely enjoyable as the Smile tour (love that rec so much) when they played 3/4 of the new record; wasn't as utterly overwhelming as the front-to-back Feedbacker show at ATP last year; and wasn't as jarring to my senses as the first time I saw them, walking past the venue not even knowing who was playing ("OMG whaat is that awesome drooooooooonoonnnnneeeeee??" *walks into venue, dies*). That said, it was still incredible. Got a little bit of everything on the setlist. Lots of energy in the crowd up-front. And there's nothing like seeing them go into a long drone that builds on itself for 5-10 minutes before it explodes, and seeing Wata and Takeshi crank their amp knobs past 11 during the quiet parts, then blow the fucking roof off when the wave of sound hits.

I said I wouldn't mention ~~~ VOTING THREAD : ILM ALLTIME METAL/HEAVY ROCK ALBUMS/TRACKS POLL~~~ Voting ends 11.59pm UK Time AUGUST 2ND againuntil near the end and here it is, everyone welcome to vote, finishes monday night UK time.

ilxor what old stuff did boris play?

I'm not good with track names. Also depends what you'd consider "old" I guess. I'm not sure if I'm maybe mixing up songs from past setlists (I've seen 'em three times at this venue), but there was a lot from Pink... "Pink," "Woman on the Screen" for sure. Nothing that I recall from Rainbow. "Floor Shaker" was there. Want to say "Statement" also. I have no idea about the drone-ier stuff, I just let stuff play and don't worry about track names.

Some really quiet song with Wata on vox, also, that never really went anywhere or got people interested.

so no 40 min version of Flood then?

Unfortunately not!

they did the time i saw them :) on the pink tour. All the pink fans stood there kinda baffled while a bunch of old dudes were zoning out getting into it haha. It was amazing. I didn't think the pink songs were as good live as on the record tbh. I suspect Smile might suffer more. I like those albums a lot but I dont really want to see them live.

I'd kill to see them do absolutego live!

I've found, at least on ILM, anyone who got in via pink or smile, has checked out the older albums and loved them even more, even when they're quite different. The ones who haven't checked em out are missing out.

I'm listening to the new Enslaved, and oh my, is "Ethica Odini" ever a great track. Starts off typically grim and icy, then subtly becomes gorgeous. They've gotten so good at working classy melodies into their songs.

Haven't listened to the new Enslaved yet (as I said on Twitter, I wish I liked them more than I actually do), but the new one from The Sword is fucking awesome. Galloping and epic, with production by Matt Bayles that does little aside from cleaning up the vocals a little (they're sung now, instead of yelled). These guys are one of the four or five best metal bands in America at this point; you don't have to like what they do, but they have absolutely mastered their craft, and if you can't appreciate that, I reserve the right to think your motives are suspect.

Yeah, it was the right decision for them to go into space.

The fact that the Sword made the effort to make their vocals sound better is very promising...the uninspired vocal melodies were always a sticking point with me. I hope to hear it after the weekend.

listening to the new enslaved. always when I hear a new enslaved record I start out "guys, I already know you can do this" and then by the middle of the second song I'm like "oh shit here we gooooooo"

what an incredible band. I haven't made a "top ten bands currently working" list since high school but if I had one these guys would have to be right up near or at the top.

haha smithy used to like lists!

oh yeah I liked to make lists from early in my music geekhood until I was like 17

then one day I was like wow I gotta be straight with myself, I no longer care about listing bands or albums or songs or books or authors

I still like unordered lists of unrelated things though - coconut milk, titanium, the new Enslaved album, a bookshelf, kittens

holy shit this track "giants" off the new enslaved

and then the jazzy shit on "singular"

what a fucking completely incredible band

I mean check this shit out:

* Hordanes Land (EP) (1993)
* Vikingligr Veldi (1994)
* Frost (1994)
* Eld (1997)
* Blodhemn (1998)
* Mardraum - Beyond the Within (2000)
* Monumension (2001)
* Below the Lights (2003)
* Isa (2004)
* Ruun (2006)
* Vertebrae (2008)
* Axioma Ethica Odini (2010)

I'm not nuts about Monumension but even with that in there who the hell has anything like that kind of a run of consistently engaged, forward-looking albums in this genre? Like, I will rep for the entire Darkthrone discography, and think that each Darkthrone album is at very least an interesting commentary on metal/the scene - they're almost like the ombudsmen of metal. But Enslaved, they just keep going for it again & again & again.

'Manumission' by Enslaved?

The new Cephalic Carnage is up in my top five of the year so far.

always when I hear a new enslaved record I start out "guys, I already know you can do this" and then by the middle of the second song I'm like "oh shit here we gooooooo"

Haha, perfectly put.

Oh, hey, looks like I have the new Enslaved as well. Is it just me, or have Nuclear Blast become like the best label out there?

it's weird how much ass nuclear blast has been kicking lately - if you look at their '06 release schedule, it's a lot of passable-but-eh stuff and this year they've got at least two on my year-end (Cathedral & Enslaved...there's no way Enslaved don't make it, it's that immediately good) + there's a new Melechesh coming in October

Glad to hear someone else likes the new Sword album. I was alarmed to read the withering review in Decibel. I still have hope.

Saw Valkyrie, Torche and Baroness last night. What a great show. The latter two are playing now at Wicker Park Fest, Chicago. I first saw Valkyrie at Alehorn of Power in '08 at Double Door. Is there no Alehorn fest this year?

I was alarmed to read the withering review in Decibel.

Decibel would never permit themselves to run a positive review of The Sword. Which is why, despite the personal affection I have for the people who post in this thread and also write for them, I say fuck Decibel.

So pissed I had to work today and couldn't make it down to Wicker Park Fest. So anxious to hear both the Enslaved and Sword albums.

Decibel would never permit themselves to run a positive review of The Sword.

if I called Albert tonight and said "I fucking love the Sword album and want to make the case for it in Decibel, in a box in the reviews section not in my column," I have all confidence that he'd say "you got it"; your notion of the editorial standards of Decibel being some tastemongering coven of orthodoxy is, to put it politely, ill-conceived.

there is a two page sword spread in the same issue. written by an ilxor! and its postive. i think. i still need to read the whole thing.

in a box in the reviews section not in my column

You have a column...?

Maybe I need to get a Decibel subscription, hah.

mine just kicked in -- totally worth it imo

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but they've seemed pretty predictable to me - and pretty gullible (cf. Watain cover story) for a while.

Which is fine, btw. I don't begrudge Decibel its existence. I'm just saying Albert doesn't run his magazine the way I would in his place. Which should be obvious.

Well, the point is, there's a favorable two-page spread for the Sword right at the center of the magazine this month, wherein they're given much space & opportunity to answer the criticisms of them most commonly voiced. Giving a band a two-page spread certainly counterbalances any claims of editorial bias against the band in question

imo

the most damning evidence one could offer, re: Decibel's alleged editorial bias, would be the lack of any pre-1980 platters making it into their exalted HoF. for a while there i had hope that this apparent oversight would be addressed with Motorheads induction. unfortunately, instead of Overkill--possibly the heaviest album of its decade--we got the "no way?" obviousness of Ace of Spades instead; like, y'know, lord lucifer bless the immortal '80s, man! now don't get me wrong, i generally love the rag to pieces otherwise, i just wish they (he?) would address the fucking brontosaur in the fucking living room issue--that being metal in the decade of its very fucking conception, man. long live Metal Mike Saunders, you fucking ingrate whelps! fuck!!! \m/ ^_^ \m/

^ old fart speaks ;)

tr00... :'(

No offense to Decibel writers, but I think the magazine now sucks. I just read picked up Classic Rock, they had a great 12 page tribute to Dio with a cool cover and everything. But the "hard rock/metal" magazine in the man's own country: nothing. Screw you.

FAO Bill http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=373098

that's pretty good. I look forward to the August issue (off to bury my head in shame)

10 Hail Decibels for you.

is the brutal truth guy that compares himself to dio in that r.i.p. link above the same one with a decibel column that he uses to talk about how cool he is every month? gross.

nope, different guy.

dan lilker was in Anthrax

ah. lotta big egos in that band imo.

lol @ Necrobutcher's conclusion

A great small man has ceased to be, but the music lives on. R.I.P.

i will say that the band on the cover of the new decibel means nothing to me. i didn't even know they existed until long after they had broken up. cuz i'm old like that. kinda cool that the cover actually looks like the cover of a magazine from the 1990's though.