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read the last month or so of Simon Reynolds' blog? maybe k-punk too?

― fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Watch out for SuperSonic 07 festival in Birmigham, details of the line up to be announced very soon ! including

Symposium -'Metal'

http://www.capsule.org.uk/Coming_Up/177.aspx

― djmartian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Invisible Oranges blog on art-metal

http://invisibleoranges.com/2007/03/hipster-metal.html

― djmartian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god "hipster metal"

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

oh god indeed

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

someone should be shot for coining that

It wouldn't have been so bad if it had at least been Manowar who did it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nigel Metal

NIGEL HIPSTER
('nI-jel 'hip-st&r)
Noun: Anyone who appreciates or supports black metal for ironic reasons, or because they find it humorous.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

the thing about a polarizing term like that is that it excludes people who like black metal for both "ironic" and "unironic" reasons. it's possible to enjoy and take seriously a type of music while appreciating it's abdsurdities.

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

ugh "its absurdities" i mean. i am just incapable of posting without making typos apparently

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

The people who throw about terms such as hipster metal and nigel metal are usually people who are not worth listening to let alone reading stuff by them.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

heheheh. this thread.

am i really meant to give a toss that some borderline sociopath might think i was a "hipster" or a "nigel" or whatever for, you know, liking a certain type of music?

hellfire. i was "gay" at school for liking erasure and the PSBs as well as the happy mondays; for liking the human league as well as faith no more (oh, the irony!)

i've been accused of being an indie spod, a dilettante, a wigga (no, seriously), a rockist, a popist and a twat (the last usually when i express my undying love for carter USM). perhaps i should be impressed by anyone to whom music, or rather musical taste and tribalism, means so much. but then i think: you poor closed-minded bastard. now piss off.

it's about listening, not lifestyle. siegbran was on the bloody money on april 24, 2003 :)

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

latebloomer OTM.

Hey, the vinyl for Altar -- sunn0))) & Boris -- is out! Bought a copy last night. Thirty bucks, but WTF, you know? Package sure is pretty. It's like a very colorful record-brick. You could build houses out of it. And it even sounds half-decent. (Record is grate! Vinyl sounds ... okay.)

Has weird liner notes by Kim Thayil, who used to be in Soundgarden. They were a band. Anyway, it turns out that Kim writes some goofy-ass liner notes, but I'm sure he's a very nice man. Cheers!

― Pye Poudre, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Angelblood is the right answer.

― MRZBW, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I got my Altar vinyl in today!!! Simon The Wigga* is bound to be able to get one in Glasgow I think,

* The Mind Boggles

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Angelblood is the right answer.

Angelblood are great,
If anyone is interested the cd version of the Dead Raven Choir 3xLP box is out now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

Years later, this thread still has a very stupid title.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone ordered the new Earth CD/DVD "Hibernaculam" ?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Did anybody else spot the vitirolic letter/ad in the last Decibel where the dude's like "Stop hanging out with people who wear Iron Maiden shirts because it's ironic and start hanging around with people who wear them because MAIDEN FUCKING ROCKS!!"

To be honest, guys like him are why it was tough for me to reimmerse myself in metal. There's definitely such a thing as taking anything "too" seriously.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Did he go on about hipster metal too?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if I can get Decibel anywhere online in the uk.
DJ Martian?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 8 March 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Campbell Kneale wears an iron maiden shirt. I assume it's ironic. And he's doing a \,,/_ on his myspace page photo too.

― Drooone, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

i doubt that's ironic at all, drooone! who doesn't love maiden?!

― ian, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Campbell Kneale played in metal bands when he was younger I think. He's a well known metal fan.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, true.

― Drooone, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

talking of dudes called campbell who like metal ... there's absolutely no fucking point me starting a thread about the new aereogramme album, is there? no, thought not. shame, because it's quite, quite wonderful.

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 8 March 2007 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

there's a birchville cat motel record that's titled after something bruce dickinson says on a live album or something. it shouldn't shock anyone that lotsa noise dudes were metal dudes.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 9 March 2007 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well Kneale still is a metal dude I guess, considering how much the Black Boned Angel albums fucking destroy everything.

― Drooone, Friday, 9 March 2007 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I got that 3xCD-r of Black Boned Angel along with Eternal Hunger.
And yeah I'm not surprised either that the noise dudes were/are into metal either.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 9 March 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Drawing Voices is some Isis guy (I think) making sound-effect plinks and leaving the kitchen faucet dripping. (Which reminds me: Is Hydra Head fast becoming the boringest metal label around? If not, give it a little more time.)

New Ian Hunter CD on Yep Roc appears to be about 95 percent hookless ballads. This is no doubt an optical illusion, but I still doubt I like it much.

― xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oops that was meant for rolling metal. Well, the first one is art-metal anyway.

― xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm going to the Isis/Jesu show Wednesday night.

― unperson, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

I want to hear that album by Alcest.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday I bought Ulver's 'Blood Inside' and it's an absolute masterwork. As Dog Latin (RIP) has already intimated.

― unfished business, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Did Dog latin actually leave?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

uh-huh!

― unfished business, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I thought he had maybe changed his name.
On the Sunn o))) vinyl white box set there's an added unreleased track of Sunn o))) with Ulver.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Did you ever hear that track, Louis?

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

I got the us pressing of the Alcest vinyl in the mail today.
Really liking new Nachtmystium, anyone else like that?

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

oh and the albums by Ascend and Pentemple belong on this thread

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

Runhild Gammelsæter - Amplicon isn't really metal but is scary as fuck. Different to the Thorr's Hammer stuff she did with Greg Anderson and Stephen O'Malley way back when she was 17.
It's out on Utech if anyone cares.

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

i care. or i'm curious. is it just processed vocals or what?

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

Well the vocals re the same scary screechy stuff as on the excellent Khlyst album.

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

Btw there's a Khlyst dvd of a live performance coming out.

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

hey, do you still read ilm, siegbran? because this speculation from way upthread (and the simpler days of 2003) didn't really come true, did it?

On the other hand, nothing really new has come out of metal in the last five, six years (compared to the abundance of new ideas in '85-'95) so maybe these kind of bands can live up to their promise of taking metal in a radical new direction.

nothing comes to mind, really. maybe om tapping into the indian classical vibe?

― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

nothing comes to mind?!?!?! i'm not in a listy mood but for heaven's sake someone else PLEASE take this

― Just got offed, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

Siegbran is still around

― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

AVANT-GARDE METAL

A Brief And Incomplete History Of An Ongoing Experiment

http://www.avantgarde-metal.com/content/stories2.php?id=67

― djmartian, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, nothing really does. plenty of bands mixing up little bits of this-and-that... which I like! but I honestly can't think of a record from the last 10 years or so that sounds like nothing I've heard before.

and about that link...
Avant-garde metal has not slowed down; in fact, it has only continued to evolve and expand. Bands like KAYO DOT, JESU, ISIS, DIABLO SWING ORCHESTRA, SLEEPYTIME GORILLA MUSEUM

is this really the best we've got? jesu and kayo dot are basically similar takes on formulas THE PEOPLE IN THE BANDS developed like 10-20 years ago! isis are hardly doing anything new too.

― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

and on that "record from the last 10 years" thing I said... that's in the metal world. I mean, it's not like these kinds of records are popping left and right in any genre, but more than most other genres, metal is all about taking what you liked about a couple of bands and doing your own thing with it.

again, nothing wrong with that!

― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

lol, "not that there's anything wrong with that"
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l256/gswyers/Seinfeld_not_that_theres_small.jpg

― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

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