Ellen Allien & Apparat "Orchestra of Bubbles"

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fandango which are your favorite songs? i'm too lazy to scroll up. you can email me if this is excessively selfish posting.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Well, off the top of my head.

Jet
Retina
Do Not Break
Floating Points
Metric
Bubbles
Turbodreams
Edison
Way Out
(+ the bonus tracks?)

there's not really that much between any of them!

Oh, while I'm here I haven't posted this yet have I?

http://www.thinktoy.com/thinkmix.htm (scroll down for surprise).

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:04 (twenty years ago)

ooo!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

in order of favorite:

Jet
Turbo Dreams
Floating
parts of Under
Edison
Way Out

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmPCYQn5wVU&search=ellen%20allien

fandango, do you do the thinktoy mixes?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:29 (twenty years ago)

ooh yeah, meant to post that too.

I don't do the thinktoy mixes no, just stumbled across it recently. I don't like that mix hugely to be honest, although I like every track on it individually. It's a shame as I wouldn't have minded using it to recommend her to people. It's very hard to hear it with fresh ears after all this time though so I might be being too negative.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

ok phew!! hahaha. sorry. but yeah. i actually burned that as an introduction for a few folks anyway. and it's somewhat nice/interesting to hear her music presented like that. all u can eat style. actually like parts of it and the other mixes.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

it's somewhat nice/interesting to hear her music presented like that. all u can eat style.

It is yes! I'm also glad someone else made the effort to do it ;) I lack the technical ability (ok, haven't bothered to learn) but it's something I'd thought about doing before.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

i admit that i love it right now.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

The dubbed voices in English on that interview on youtube that Susan linked are killing me. How come it's always the most generic and enthusiastic voices that sound nothing like the speakers? Good interview, but so laughable.

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

The last Slices DVD's just had regular subtitles. The overdubbing of English onto backgrounded German is incredibly awful to watch & listen :(

fandango (fandango), Monday, 10 April 2006 08:02 (twenty years ago)

post-mix thoughts: i need an ellen allien doll now. will destroy myself to get 1 inch closer to satisfaction.

the voices are kinda perfect for the locker room montage scene tho.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

wtf! I've never seen this before :-O

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8745188120442478611&q=ellen+allien&pl=true

I guess that's the official one? (this being the one she didn't like, or want to use apparently).

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Bought it last saturday. Put it on. Aaah, so good... Four songs in - huh? Can't remember hearing this before?! Looks at tracklist: Two more tracks than on the leaked version! Well, the version I had anyway. Which has the same tracklisting as the one provided upthread.

Anyway, two more tracks: "Rotary" and "Sleepless". Esp. the first one is utterly gorgeous. Thanks Ellen & Sascha :)

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the two bonus tracks will really round this record out and toughen it up a little (Rotary is great!) where it needs it IMO.

Boomkat hurry up with my order! :0

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, Sleepless isn't very tough I guess... I always think of harp chords as being kind of "sharp" sounds I suppose.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

and... it's nice to finally have the CD!

I've been absolutely loving this recently, whatever doubts & niggles I had about parts of it have just evaporated and it's really opened up beautifully. I have to rearrange my favourites list too ;)

fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 April 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm not really a fan of electronic music too often, but somewhere I stumbled on the free song from this album they put on the internet, and shit, I'm in love. When does this get released in the US? Oh, the pain of finding music you love and realizing it's import-only.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

It's available from beatport.com

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Eh, I mentally can't bring myself to spend sixteen bucks on MP3 files... for that much cash, I better be getting something physical.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Is the economy in America so shit that $16 is a substantial amount of money?

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I spent more on 3 pints of guiness last night for instance.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Not really, but expensive criminal trial + moving apartment next month + buying health insurance + paying own college tuition - any financial support from family - any sort of loans, grants, scholarships, etc = me unwilling to spend $16 on MP3's.

xpost
...although I did spend more on a burger and a couple Guinness pints last night too. I never claimed to be the best at balancing the budget.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/allien.and.apparat.ellen.html have it too (a flat fee of $4.50 per order inside USA?) vinyl only right now but that might change.

I don't know how much bpitch would charge but they're very good to order from direct. Wish I'd realised when I had Berlinette on back-order for two months(!) to the UK from some crappy UK supplier.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 22 April 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)

(if you've no preference either way I'd get the CD... two extra tracks as good as anything else already on it, and the new tracklisting flows better too)

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 22 April 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Amazon.com says it's coming out on May 2nd. I suppose that means a domestic release? If that's referring to the import, $16.98 isn't definitely isn't bad. I guess I'll order it from them, unless Insound or any of the other stores pick it up cheaper.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 22 April 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

right then!

Kate Wax remixes and Matthew Dear split 12" on Spectral(or Ghostly?)

out as promo yet even?

fandango (fandango), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

any more thoughts on this Susan btw?

I've listened to it so much I it's become quite overfamiliar to me now, I still like it but yeah, there are doubts in there too. One of my favs for the year but possibly not as unnassailable as I'd like it to be. I'm trying not to fear dissapointment about the live shows! (if I even get to any of them).

fandango (fandango), Monday, 1 May 2006 06:51 (twenty years ago)

i think it's interesting, but doesn't have near the integrity of her other stuff - solo i mean, i guess. apparat be gone, imo. i still like it though. alot. ? i'm unclear i guess!

make your final list -was waiting for that --unless you're too bored with it by now?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 1 May 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

It feels lighter than her proper solo stuff somehow yes. Even though it's so broad & outreaching. Hmmm, I do still love an awful lot of it though. It's great hearing them just riffing off each other.

I dunno about that list. Turbo Dreams is not such an unfav anymore! Rotary is awesome, I love the little voices (Ellen & Sascha? I think so) having a conversation in German at the end of Sleepless, it's a really nice personal touch.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 1 May 2006 08:06 (twenty years ago)

i don't have "sleepless"! never bought the album :o must go to amoeba. "floating points" feels like a true heavy heady ellen allien track that got stunted a bit. still feel the potential though. probably digging this the most now.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm really feeling this. And count me as yet another person who's never really warmed up to Allien before this album.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Philip's Pitchfork review is great.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

i finally bought it this week.

man alive. yes. this is really doing quite a bit for me. far, far more interesting than berlinette, and i listened to that album constantly for months. this seems both darker and warmer, if that makes sense. so many little sounds to keep your ears open for. plus, the liberal use of strings - always sets my heart a flutter. i've only listened to it a few times, so i'm still in the initial OMGILOVIT stage, but i could see this holding my attention for quite some time. really begs intensive, quiet listening, though after that this is definitely going to be a night driving/afterparty/drinking wine and smoking past my bedtime album.

Emily B (Emily B), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)


emily b otm.

the vinyl is beautiful and i'm happy to have both it and the mp3s from months ago. see, apparat, it all worked out.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
oh, finally a Berlin date!

But can I justify staying an extra week just to catch this? (well, and m_nus night at Weekend perhaps)...

berlin
shitparade 2006
date: 7.7.2006
venue: club maria und josef

line up:

maria floor (start 22:00)

daniel meteo (dj - meteosound/shitkatapult)
rocket freudental (live - pavlek)
das bierbeben (live - shitkatapult - “alles fällt” record release show)
t.raumschmiere (dj - novamute/shitkatapult)
ellen allien & apparat (live - bpitch control - "orchestra of bubbles"
record releases show)

abe duque (live - abe duque records/gigolo)
peter grummich (dj - shitkatapult/spectral)

////// **** ///// **** ////// *****/////

josef floor (start 23:30, in chronological order)

o.s.t. (live - shitkatapult)
eliot lipp (live - hefty records)
daedalus (live - plug research/ninja tune)
fraction (live - shitkatapult)
christin + ultra violett (dj - romantik/electr. ave)
fenin (live - shitkatapult)

hmmmmmm!!!

that said, staying an extra week could mean ending up missing Benicassim :/ I think I'm going to be in a little debt when I get home already...

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

An ingenious Promo protection strategy I've heard is when CLAPS tracks are inserted periodically throught the album. I know, it drives anal purist absolutely nuts! because they program the clap track to overflow into the next track. And there are intro sound-check sounding build-ups at the begining of the album that of course overflows into the 1st track and a long and loud claps track right before the last track because if their worth anything--- they'll always come back with a encore for us!!! and the encore will end with another fade into the last clap tracks. But most will just gosta buy the legit album if it must be proper and suitable for your purist "refined" ears without the claps. The promo will sound "live" but only in simliar fashion to sitcoms with laugh tracks sound live. The added promotional bonus is that the mood is trickily heightened by the claps.

lukeeluke (soulex45), Friday, 23 June 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD IDEA!!!!

except on most bpitch albums (including this one) they should go w/ a laugh track instead of applause.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Friday, 23 June 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

vahid with another stinger!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

i actually really like bpitch when they're being funny on purpose, like "kandahar", early smash tv, feadz, etc.

i was hoping "orchestra of bubbles" would be a little lighter in mood, honestly.

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

that modeselektor promo, w/ the cheesy radio announcer interludes, is actually pretty fucking hilarious, albeit in a low-key way!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

re: the album again. is surprising as a slow grower. as its close to first impression is accessible,poppy. am FINally getting into Do Not Break - the "quiet jumpiness" of the beats feels like exuberance contained but personally relished, and now the rest of it opens up differently/more interestingly than I'd thought; emily b otm on this being dark and warm at same time. but at this point i can't rate Allien albums against each other as they all have such distinct personalities i necessarily need to know. thrills still resonates/thrills me the most tho

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 24 June 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
I've cooled on this album more than I'd have anticipated tbh (not that I don't like it still) but I'm SO glad there's finally (acc. to the minisite, so it should be the EA/App't live shebang) going to be another UK date. Nov 11th @ Fabric! I hope to be in attendance :D

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

ahh I still love this , keep going back for more.

winter testing (winter testing), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

nope, still no cooling for me!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I never managed to get into this. I usually don't really care about cohesiveness but this one feels very disparate, as opposed to the monolith that 'Thrills' was.

Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't listen to it like I did at the beginning... but it is a brilliant record. I actually kind of like it better than Thrills.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - yeah, I've come back to feeling exactly how I expected to about this. I like it and love it in parts but it's a bit too all over the place to feel like a 'proper' Ellen Allien record.

Which I do hope she wants to make again (she's hinted about a fourth one long before this came out in some interview), or if another EA/A album... I'd like it to have a bit more steel & focus than this.

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

DO NOT BREAK

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)


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