We know.
― I'm never gonna do it without the Lex on (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
teqkilla's starting to sound like the best track on the album
it's one of the best, for sure. reviews i've read that single it out for scorn just leave me smh.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 July 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i wasn't sure what to make of it at first. it's long, seemingly unstructured and noisy as hell, so it doesn't surprise me that some see it as a dealbreaker. especially if they have no noise tolerance and/or haven't taken the time to really come to grips with the album.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Friday, 16 July 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I talked to my friend last night who had just bought it and she seemed disappointed...she thought it sounded very American & commercial. I think the implication was that she thought it was MIA's "sellout" album!
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 July 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm failing to see how any record that gets people mentioning Skinny Puppy and Merzbow can be a commercial/sellout record.
― embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
why do pop artists still think it's cool or interesting to have a bunch of people dressed like them onstage all the time
― goth (crüt), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought it was cool.
― embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ok
― goth (crüt), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm ever older than Maya though so what do I know about cool :(
― embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
(xp to onimo) i don't think she listens to much Merzbow or SP so I don't think she quite made that connection...
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I mean people on here & elsewhere on the Internet say how noisy it is (in places) then someone disconnected thinks it's a sellout album and it seems weird that they're discussing the same album.
― embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I think some people may be having a hard time coming to grips with the lack of a "world" dance vibe on this new album. Kala in particular had a real globetrotting feel to it. That's not what this new one is about.
― Moodles, Friday, 16 July 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The world vibe is of course seen as more "authentic".
^yeah, actually...my friend is a really good and intelligent person, and she even has decent musical tastes, but she described Kala as being "really jungle"...
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
(which is why she preferred it to the new one)
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
"really jungle"
If only. M.I.A. needs to get with Zomby and start planning out that Jungle revival record.
― Moodles, Friday, 16 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Diplo piles on with more criticism
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/diplo-on-mias-new-album-she-didnt-care-about-it/20686
― curmudgeon, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
CORRECTION and APOLOGY: It didn’t make sense to us that Diplo would say M.I.A. had “no talent in any aspect,” but after listening to the recording of the phone interview repeatedly, it was our conclusion. It turns out that conclusion was wrong. What Diplo, who was speaking very quickly, actually said was that M.I.A., has “got” talent in every aspect, which makes a lot more sense to us. Apologies to both Diplo and to M.I.A. We will now perform 40 lashes upon ourselves in repentance.
lol
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
m.i.a. has yes men?
― i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
But besides that I think she’s amazing and she’ll put another record out that’s going to be fuckin’ sick because I think she needs to get grounded at some point
I still have yet to hear this thing but from the responses it's getting, it seems to scream "transitional record!"
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 July 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Too bad John Cusack's too old to play Diplo in the movie
― da croupier, Friday, 16 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I GO STICKY STICKY ICKY ICKY WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
or is it weed, not I'm second-guessing
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
lol I am terrible at lyrics even when they are written in the CD liner notes
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's Icky Icky Icky P'tang
― surfer blood for oil (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
sticky icky icky wii
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 July 2010 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't stopped playing this thing. Suddenly the last 100 hours of this thread seems irrelevant.
― I'm never gonna do it without the Lex on (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
*seem
yeah, this. though the rhythms and rhythmic emphasis are still there, it seems much less like dance music than anything she's done so far, and the "exotic" detailing is almost entirely gone. overall vibe is kinda rock.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
it is more of a rock album, for sure, but it's still pretty funky. i had it on loud last night while i was doing household stuff and there was a lot of stuff that made me want to jump around. even the spacey, dubbier stuff mostly had grooves. the adrian sherwood mentions upthread are obviously otm, and overall again it makes me think her most obvious precedent is punk/postpunk of the ari up/jah wobble axis.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
(an axis that also includes the sandinista-era clash, obv., all of which helps explain to me why i love her so much.)
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^word!
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Saturday, 17 July 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it makes me think her most obvious precedent is punk/postpunk of the ari up/jah wobble axis.
an axis I can believe in. seriously this is only sounding better and better...
― The Uncanny X-Men feat. Jah Wobble & Keith Levene (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
my only beef with this album is that the two lulls ("Story To Be Told" through "It Iz What It Iz" and "Tell Me Why" through "Space") are really fucking dire
I can't rate this album as highly as the first two because of that, even though I really, really REALLY love the "XXXO"/"Teqkilla"/"Lovalot" sequence
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ This, but with the highs and lows almost entirely reversed. (I think we can agree on Born Free)
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, you really like "It Iz What It Iz" and "It Takes A Muscle"????? really cannot fathom
"Born Free" is awesome, yes
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Equally, I can't work out how anyone could love Teqkilla. We can be like odd-couple detectives.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I've come around to "It Takes a Muscle."
I rate her albums: Kala >>>>>> Maya >> Arular
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
This thing has a punch and density that reminds me why big budgets are often good.
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
"Story To Be Told" is the one I vacillate the most on, followed by "Tell Me Why"
Really I just want her to do an album full of tenuous puns like "Teqkilla", "Lovealot" and "Illygirl" because that's when I find her most fun (aside from "Born Free" where she satisfies the hypothesis "simple shouting = simple fun")
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I love both Story and Tell Me Why because the contrast between the vocal samples and the heavyweight drums seems to be at the heart of the album's mix of toughness and vulnerability. They're the most widescreen productions to me. (BTW, I don't have the special edition so haven't heard Illygirl, etc yet)
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Illygirl/dp/B003UP3VNA
here's a sample
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
It Iz What It Iz seems like the best song on the album to me: A gauzy, slow banger-type. Of course it's a Blaqstarr joint.
― bmichael, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
It may seem that way, but what it actually is is a vacant, boring, meandering mess with no propulsion, drive or entry point to invite the listener into its world.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i like the hard jams most, but i really don't mind the spacey pop -- "space" in particular, which i've liked ever since she released the video some months back. i like how the contrast throws the whole album off-kilter. i think i pretty much agree with alfred's ranking of the three albums, tho piracy funds terrorism would rate between kala and maya.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
A best-of album skimming the best tracks off of all three albums would be like wo
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
also no one would be able to agree what tracks to put on it
Dan, this isn't the Inception thread.
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link