The whole dancey beats plus goth plus shoegaze atmospherics (with female vocals) is totally Curve-like. (if it were male vocals, it would be Chapterhouse's second album.)
NOTHING like Loop. Are you mad, Raggett?
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)
I love the fact that drum sound is so dated - you don't really hear that anymore so it takes me right back to my teens.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)
it's like lush-ious jackson IMO
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
xxpost -- I ascribe it to Ben fully there, first time through I saw 'em. Huge pulses of feedback throb etc. etc.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
And yeah, it just doesn't suggest itself as Curve-like automatically for me as noted. Maybe because there's a slow burn anger in Toni Halliday's singing/lyrics that I'm not sensing here, but Ben's work doesn't make me think of Dean Garcia's either.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
In Secret Machines, I could see a Loop-esque thing maybe. But not with SVIIB.
Benjamin is far more of an MBV fanboy than anything else! ;-)
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
"Babelonia" at 2:33-2:49 basically IS Curve (and a weedwhacker).
― Andy K, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
Did this get did already?
Sonic Youth and School Of Seven Bells members set for Neu! supergroup
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Just listening to a bit of the new one and maybe I said this before but the vocals *really* remind me of Linda Perhacs' multi-tracked singing.
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)
Bye Bye Bye = neat song, btw
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
Just wanted to post the pic of that drownedinsound reviewer:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh310/yodelagogo/53769.jpg
― All 10 songs permeate the organs (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Oh shit, I missed this Lusine remix of Half Asleep - kind of lush and chimey in a Pantha du Prince-ish way:
http://rcrdlbl.com/artists/School_of_Seven_Bells/track/Half_Asleep_Lusine_Remix
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)
this record needs more guitars and heaviness
im 3 or 4 listens in, and i'd agree with this.
― Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
You know I would never ever normally engage in any kind of childish hipster bashing or anything but OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER HATED ANYONE SO MUCH ON SIGHT IN MY LIFE AS THAT TWUNTISH REVIEWER, I WANT TO SMASH HIS PRETENTIOUSLY HELD CIGARETTE OUT ON HIS NON PRESCRIPTION GLASSES!!!!
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
lol
seconded!!!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
Got mine in the mail today... nice little box and cards, but where is this bonus CD? Not included.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
Is that a review or is that someone's thesis statement of an art degree from, like, Camberwell College or something?
I got as far as the top of the second paragraph:
But there is a third moment, and this is perhaps caught in Audrey's dance in the diner of Twin Peaks, where her naïf-fatale eroticism jives to Badalamenti's otherworld. His music exists at the hauntological cusp of big band, as it recedes into those hanging chromatic notes which betray the foreign agent at the heart of David Lynch's estranging of the American familiar.
― the new hot dawg stand in compton (Pillbox), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
to be honest, it kinda sounds like SVIIB lyrics.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 July 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
they should re-record "half-asleep" with the words from this review and call it "voice of harold."
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER HATED ANYONE SO MUCH ON SIGHT IN MY LIFE AS THAT TWUNTISH REVIEWER, I WANT TO SMASH HIS PRETENTIOUSLY HELD CIGARETTE OUT ON HIS NON PRESCRIPTION GLASSES!!!!
The collected wit and wisdom of that Twuntish reviewer: h t t p : / / www . danielbyates . com / pop
(unlinked because I don't want him here)
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:28 (fifteen years ago)
LOL at the opening line of his AFI review:
"When you try and neuter a cat it puts up a fight."
and the closing paragraph from the same review:
"So instead I filmed one of my own turds in slo-mo, epically breaking the surface of the water, proudly pushing its turtlehead up toward the light beyond the bowl. A little blood around the edges, only to signify the cancer of soft-rock guitar in what should be the healthy churning bowels of punk music. I used fake blood, nothing more serious than that."
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:32 (fifteen years ago)
I can think of a lot of things I'd rather do than read another word of that twuntish review's "work". One of them involves putting mine own eyes out with rusting dogshit-smeared pruning secateurs.
And no, I didn't get a "bonus CD" either. Boo hoo.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, 50 minutes long... perfect for a nice run. I'll try it on Friday.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:11 (fifteen years ago)
Oh! And that thing with NEU! as performed by Michael Rother with Benjamin Curtis (and Steve Shelley and some other peeps)... not happened yet, but happening in October...
http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=11079
(Though I should probably go revive a NEU! or a Krautrock thread for wider interest.)
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)
Sounds like everyone who is really into this = everyone who has seen them live. That must be the setting in which the MBV comparisons shine, because this record does not have much edge and really not a whole lot of atmosphere either. This album's not bad but it's very tidy and clean.
I know Ben can play huge, based on Secret Machines albums and live show. His presence feels very played down here.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
I loved them before I ever saw them live - but that was based on some (far rougher sounding) demos that Benjamin had given me pre- Alpinisms.
That said, I don't *mind* the pop sheen. I really like pop sheen and glossiness and that Aurally Enhanced shiny candy sound.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
I should probably get off this thread before every post I make just turns into "I loved them before you did!!!!!" type whinging. Seriously.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
I prefer the albums to the live stuff I've heard.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
i like the cleanness of this album - it's really starting to get its teeth into me now. i find it ironic that it's linked to a genre called shoegaze, because to me this album is the aural equivalent of looking straight up at the sky just so you can feel the wind blow harder into your face. or, like, a wind machine. it's amazingly propulsive in comparison to alpinisms.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, Lex, some day I will school you on Shoegaze (and the irony of the name) but today is not that day.
First generation shoegazers were never looking at their actual shoes - they were always looking at their effects to figure out which etherealiser to trigger next. It's always been an ironic name for a particularly starry-eyed genre.
Bt then again, shoegaze was always the uncomfortable marriage of two genres and two strains of musical thinking. But at least half of it was descended straight from the bits of Cocteau Twins that sounded like spinning around as fast as you could, fingers outstretched, until you fell down laughing and dizzy.
But then you take that aesthetic and you merge it with the low-down and dirty slouching miserablism of the Jesus and Mary Chain, who were decided gazers at alternately their navels and the floor (and I say this deeply loving them).
So it is an odd name for this genre, but it does capture that idea of being caught between the gutter and the stars.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)
When I started a shoegazing club at my university (the main purpose being so I could reserve function rooms to eat lunch in), the admin assistants that dealt with student groups all thought it was a foot fetish club and treated me warily because I was clearly a perverted weirdo.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)
Hazel, have I mentioned how much I love your screen name? You keep making me want to listen to Spirea X every time you post.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)
thank you! but you should not give in to such temptations. actually you made me do it just now. it's all right.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 18 July 2010 07:17 (fifteen years ago)
Really disappointed by this record.
Feels like they abandoned the "cosmopolitan Kabbalahtronic" sound for "Sarah McLachlan, after collaborating with DMC, hears some electro and post-punk revival and decides to collaborate with Moby."
― litel, Sunday, 18 July 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)
^ that's when I reach for my sb
― the new hot dawg stand in compton (Pillbox), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
This is a fabulous record.
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Monday, 19 July 2010 03:56 (fifteen years ago)
a bit torn about "I L U." kinda wish they canned the lyrics and just extended the soaring bits more, but maybe that's too much of a good thing. and i feel like i've heard "babelonia" before, kind of like i swear that kt tunstall song "suddenly i see" was released in the '80s and they thought they could get away with it
― little rattlesnaker, Monday, 19 July 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)
Babelonia is strikingly similar, both in the guitar riff, and the vocal harmonies, to Sweetness & Light by Lush. But that's OK, I love both bands, I'll let them get away with it.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Monday, 19 July 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)
these guys were better live without the clunky-ass drumming. it really grounds everything.
― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Monday, 19 July 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)
Can't believe people have been talking about the drums without mentioning NEW ORDER, which is surely the desired effect pretty much throughout the album. It's exactly the same sort of propulsive feel you get on True Faith and the remix of Bizarre Love Triangle, except blurred with all this MBV fuzz and strange madrigal pop.
Totally loving this, it's the summer album to Alpinisms' bleak midwinter album.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 08:55 (fifteen years ago)
Heart Is Strange and Bye Bye Bye are about as New Order as you can get without wheeling out Bernard Sumner.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 08:56 (fifteen years ago)
Um, no. I'm a big New Order stan, but honestly - I don't get New Order from the album's drums.
Mind you, there was a moment last night (probably because the drums were mic-ed so much LOUDER than everyone else onstage) that I did think "Hmmm, Atmosphere" but now I can't remember which song it was, and it didn't pop out listening to it on the tube this morning.
― The Black Knight! Huzzah, My Lord! (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:26 (fifteen years ago)
It's the synths as much as the drums for me, admittedly.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)
It's funny, Bye Bye Bye is such a difficult song to pull off live, it seems, but it's growing on me so much more and more every time I see them. That "dee-dee-doo dee-de-de-doo" guitar riff is just so damn infectious.
― Fantasia, having a party is NOT my idea of a fantasy (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)
byebyebye is definitely a highlight for me, the bass drum rush at the beginning gets me so pumped!!
― OK (LOLK), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
I am on this bandwagon.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
You scenester! (Actually I'd be way surprised if you weren't.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
the first 10 seconds of "heart is strange" is totally mid 80s tangerine dream
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 July 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously fucking great. Both albums. Gets a bit too 6th form prog in places but then good things happen
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 22 July 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
"I L U" moves me in a lot of ways, but last night it got to me lyrically. I'm not even missing any past girlfriend or anything. But just the idea of a woman resigned to saying "I loved you" seemed particularly poignant last night.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)