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I mean not that I'm wanting to make money off it, that's not what I mean. I'm just a crazed New Order fan, as should be obvious by now.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really surreal to watch the Taras Shevchenko video and the Finsbury Park one in the same week. You get to see this very intense, restrained performance on one, and on the other you see Barney running in place while windmilling his arms and going "WOOO!" during songs.

As for the S&D, I accidentally listened to the Low-Life version of Subculture recently. How the hell did that even make it on the album?

― mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd really like to see some live footage from say '87 - with BLT etc. That is their height for me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

there is a video of them live in 1987 in brixton called 'academy', found it in oxfam....there's some risible interview footage ('how did it affect you when your singer killed himself?' 'er, well first of all we didn't have a singer') and yeah, a goooorgeous version of 'bizarre love triangle'....worth trying to find a copy anyway

― Owen Hatherley (owen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooooh, I'd love to see that!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to say, is that legit?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, is this a thread where people talk about "taras"? good god, i love that video. love it so much. key moments:

- the proto-metal, wide-eyed, staring-into-the-abyss thrash that is "denial".

- the LOOK that barney gives gillian when she fucks up the arpeggio on "ceremony".

- barney coming up on his trip [1] right at the end ... during that fucking blinding proto-everything-that-happened-next-in-the-world-ever version of "temptation", grabbing at his microphone stand, missing, looking at it in horror, then just carrying on ranting. how does it go? "people. like people. like me" or something. ah!

- that proto-everything-that-happened-next-in-the-world-ever version of "temptation" in general.

hoo god, i want to watch it right now.

[1] this is what i heard, anyway: that barney took a tab before the gig and by the end he's tripping his tits off. i want to believe it, even if it's bollocks.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's truly amazing about Taras that someone had just the right foresight to capture a band that already had a reputation for excellence and would eventually get another one, or several if you like. And not only that, but with several good quality cameras and a solid sound mix.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's "people need people like me. people need people like you..."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

[1] this is what i heard, anyway: that barney took a tab before the gig and by the end he's tripping his tits off. i want to believe it, even if it's bollocks.

Hahaha. Okay you really are going to make me play it now.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bit of effort, but Pumped Full Of Drugs can be obtained via the Amazon Japan site.

It is NTSC, but it is also Region 2. Keep that in mind, you'll need a way to play a Region 2 disc.

― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

"State of the Nation" seems to be underrated. I'm wondering what about it is different that people would single it out for dislike?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It got singled out on the "Rock Band's Worst Attempt at Disco" thread. I'm not sure what that means since most of New Order's mid-80's output are varying attempts at disco!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"State Of The Nation" is fantastic; I've never understood why people are so vocally against it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like it stuck on the end of brotherhood like my CD is, but it's okay, certainly better than Shellshock

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I put SOTN on that rock-disco thread; it's not bad, just perfunctory. The electro bassline, as good as it is, seems mixed too high. The track grates. Plus, ever tried to dance to it?? Bloody hard.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus, ever tried to dance to it?? Bloody hard.

Erm. I suspect the problem might not be with the song, dude.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I know what he means though, because it's slower than most house/disco and the hi-hat is seemingly in double-time. Still, you gotta learn how to adapt your dancing style to any tempo. That's part of Dancing 101.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I love dancing to "State of the Nation"! I love the "oooh" yelps!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the Chic guitar is unbelievably great on it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

For me my initial dislike of SOTN had to do with the quality of the other tracks on Substance. But then I starting hearing SOTN on random and it was way more enjoyable. The problem was that I really love every other track on that album, and SOTN is near the end of a pretty long album, not to mention it's right before my favorite song.

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 25 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God yes, love that Chic guitar on it.

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 25 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

That guitar part is outstanding.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 March 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, terrific Chic guitar, great bassline, dodgier-than-usual lyrics - all the elements seem to be in place. For me the parts don't make a whole in this case. Vinnie's mild objections match mine. I don't hate it; it's just underwhelming next to their other singles.

I actually prefer "Touched by the Hand of God": even better bass, breathy chorus.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 26 March 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Touched By The Hand of God eats it for breakfast, yes. SOTN comes across as rather clumsy, I think.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And the video for TBTHOG...christ on a crutch is it wonderful.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 26 March 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No mother fucking kidding. Saw it for the first time only a few weeks ago. Hilarious.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

In other words everyone MUST have the Substance VHS today, only cost me a few bucks, even if you've seen all the other videos on it already, etc etc.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I watch it *regularly*. The "State of the Nation" video is kind of throwaway, but I think the track is anything but!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

from Rob Da Bank's Radio 1 show, the Richard X remix of New Order's "Bizarre Love Triangle"

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FM4IWTLQI3XW1M3T9PMTXSCXU

― logged out regular guess f*cking who (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

whoops. oh well. sue me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh you vicious criminal.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

"Young Offender"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

"Thieves Like Us"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

It's called YSI
and it's become
unmentionable

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

*listens* Okay, when the murky/grimy stuff kicks in around 40 seconds, that's when this sucker really takes off...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

It's perhaps a little too faithful. I was hoping for a popped up complete rework with the same energy as "10 Dollar" or "Some Girls".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

However, I'll save a full review until I have a better quality version.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

It's true, actually, that it becomes a straightforward enough take with new bells and whistles. But at the same time, it then reconfirms the wonder of the song itself. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

"Taking us back to...I'll put my money on 1989."

And you lose, Rob da Bank. Get one Google.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Hey, he wins because he world premiered it!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Apparently there *is* a promo CD (so it won't just appear on vinyl).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Hey, he wins because he world premiered it!

Yes, but I still want his money. I am greedy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Dude, he works for the BBC.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Don't rob me of my joy!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

I.e. he has no money!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

"Thieves Like Us"

Hahahaha!
"Yeah theives like us/baby we were born to..."

― There's a Tipsy Ghost on the edge of my couch (Bimble...), Saturday, 24 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

search for loveless
destroy dracula's castle

― sernard bummer, Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

"Round and Round" is about twice as classic as I previously thought.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

can someone please tell me what's the difference
between the verions of CEREMONY as mentioned
er, three years ago?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

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