Rolling Metal Thread 2010

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did we discuss this yet? it's a concordance of stats for metal-archives.com (a generally fantastic site imo) -- what visitors look at broken down by genre & what country the site's users are from -- stats people, you may get a big kick out of this -- I'm not even a stats guy but it's a really interesting chart to look at

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

built by our own glenn iirc

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

oh man is that right? we probably had this discussion already but I'm on pain meds lol

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Man, that heated Oberst discussion in the Wavves thread must really be gettin' to ya, huh?

Drugs are not the answer... :'(

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yup, Glenn posted it in here a week or 2 ago.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yup, "discussion" (not much actually) is here:

Rolling Metal Thread 2010

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

lol ilxor no these are legit for legit physical stuff on which I won't dwell further than to say if my coherence dips below its already low baseline now the rolling metal thread knows why

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

Will know there's something up smithy when you start a poll thread ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

Or post here Worst 90s Albums By Established Metal Acts ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

now playing, btw, Helvet in Musta Peto, a comp from last year that is seriously among the best metal compilation albums I have ever owned - I got it from Bestial Burst during my "holy shit Bestial Burst is the best label out there" frenzy last year; it's such a lovingly curated comp, flows so well, gives several different looks that flow together nicely, and is kinda my #1 exhibit for black metal that's both reaching into new places & remaining true to the genre - I know the term "true" is loaded but if you run across it have a listen and you'll see what I mean. The Saturnian Mist track is especially fuckin hot

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

and the Ride for Revenge track, which is really, really long, like a mini-album within the album (it has three distinct parts, it's like a black metal take on those stitch-several-songs-into-one side-long things Genesis used to do)

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

for ksh
http://www.opinz.com/the-worst-albums-of-all-time-metallica-st-anger-2003/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

your worst nightmare is happening. John Justen is helping with an ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Tracks & ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Albums email poll.
Will start a noms thread shortly and will try keep mentions of it in here to a minimum so not to piss poll haters off. Will post the link in here once its up so your thread isn't spoiled. But please mr & mrs poll haters, please even consider nominating stuff you would like to see in it! In return i wont bug you!
:)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

i'm into ride for revenge. really dug the track "no saviour no return" off their last one. think I posted on here about it, even.

comp sounds cool, thanks.

xpost

original bgm, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

ok JD, on yer recommendation out tracking down this comp, which sounds pretty much like a must have for me.

Is that a Danzig in your pocket or are you just happy to HAIL SATAN? (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

Genesis Climber made me curious since it's an obscure Robotech reference.

<3

original bgm, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

--- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock TRACKS Poll---. - Noms end 25th July

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

and --- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock Albums Poll---. - Noms end 26th July

keep all related chat in those threads.

over and out. Wont mention it again until nearer end time of noms.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

ok JD, on yer recommendation out tracking down this comp, which sounds pretty much like a must have for me.

I wish I could say "seek out the hard copy," since it's a really cool booklet-and-super-thick-cardstock foldout cd cover, but, naturally, only 666 copies were pressed, so don't feel shy about doing the necessary to find a less tangible copy.

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder how many metal albums are limited to 666 copies. (more than 666 albums for sure)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

it's actually pretty expensive to specify a pressing of 666 - take my word for it, lol

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah fruitless searching tells me a physical copy is doubtful, although lol @ omega mailorder offering me the chance to buy one and have it shipped right away when it arrives.

Is that a Danzig in your pocket or are you just happy to HAIL SATAN? (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

Free High on Fire single for download here, it's number 6: http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201005_kia/index.html

X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)

and its a good track

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)

Anybody who thinks of any metal-archives.com statistical thing I didn't already list in the Discordance, let me know and I'll see if I can add it.

(I feel like I should clarify that although I did all the data-analysis and metal-specific processing, the underlying database software itself is not a solo project. I'm the designer and product manager, but there's a whole team of people building/testing/supporting it. This is the same software I used to administer the 2009 Pazz & Jop, and to build a huge World Cup History explorer, and various other things. Our parent company is (as of last Thursday) now in the process of being acquired by Google, which could have interesting implications for the future of the system...)

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

I mentioned this before, but I'm really into this German band Mandrake. Semi-gothic semi-death metal, with both a female lead singer and a male growler with (it seems to me) more personality than is often the case. Innocence Weakness is the new album.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

for ksh
http://www.opinz.com/the-worst-albums-of-all-time-metallica-st-anger-2003/

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:57 PM (Yesterday)

proud of Hetfield & crew whenever SA makes a worst of list

ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 04:01 (fifteen years ago)

YOB vinyl is coming. There was a rumour that it was only available to southern lord series subscribers but it appears that mailout by SL was only referring to a particular colour vinyl. The normal black version is available as normal so all is ok and we can still get the vinyl (which has 2 vinyl only tracks not on the cd)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

While I'm endorsing metal bands with female singers, and those of us on the Metal Club thread are still savoring last week's Warlock album, I'll also toss in a cheer for the shamelessly trad Sister Sin, who sound to me kinda like the Sounds as a late-80s vintage metal band. New album is called True Sound of the Underground, and it has lots of churning guitar riffs with guys chanting "Hoy!" over them, and a Doro-style power-metal singer almost audibly strutting back and forth. Fab.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I've liked Sister Sin for a while now, and the singer definitely has a cool Doro thing going on. The new album's really good, too. Sleaze-power, I guess you'd call it, as if Warlock came from the Sunset Strip.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

Hmm, "sleaze" seems like an unfortunate choice of terms here. "Raw power"? Or just "Heavy metal", which is what EM seems to have settled on for them? Fun, whatever you call it!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

I mean sleaze in a good way. Late-'80s Strip. LA Guns, Faster Pussycat & the like. There's a strong touch of that in Sister Sin.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=narHqBWkauI

ksh, Friday, 9 July 2010 04:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/mooseboner

scott seward, Friday, 9 July 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

anybody heard the new bloody sign album? what's the news?

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 9 July 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

No, but I heard the new Christian Mistress in its entirety. Lotsa folks are gonna be very happy with this one.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

I sure am!

A. Begrand, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Listening to the new Acacia Strain album, Wormwood, right now. No major changes to their sound that I can hear.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 9 July 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

all right so I sometimes do this thing (most often with vinyl releases) where I'll buy a record and put off listening to it until "just the right time." naturally there really isn't ever a "just the right time," and I've known this since high school, which was when I started with this buy-an-LP-wait-til-the-moment's-right nonsense. but when it's an album by a band I know I like, I will still sometimes set it aside and wait. until a day when I'm less busy I guess. or until I feel like I've cleared the decks for it or something. and this is how sometimes I will run across an album and go, shit, you didn't actually ever listen to that did you, and you had specifically been looking forward to that album coming out.

well my friends. this morning I finally got around to putting Ares Kingdom's Incendiary, a 2010 heavy metal release don'tcha know, onto the turntable. Ares Kingdom is the band that Order From Chaos became; if you don't know Order From Chaos, but you like metal, you should get to know them -- they're only canonical at a deep-cult level, but for those of us who dig them, they're all-time. Incendiary, on the evidence of the first side, which has been blasting off the top of my skull for three and a half tracks now, is on the level of OFC's best. It's kind of not in these guys' nature to frontload an album and let it drop off, so I'll be pretty surprised if things don't just get better. The only thing that's a little weird is how loud & clear the vox are mixed. But fuckin A. Incendiary by Ares Kingdom. They're a kind of black metal very in touch with the genre's thrash roots, very in touch with the death metal side of things but just the way the songs are put together is more black-metal sympathetic - almost like operatic thrash, "operatic" not vocally (the vocals are proper vokill style) but in terms of this sweeping-composition feel. The guitar solos kick fucking ass. Nowhere near as noisy and fucked up as Order From Chaos -- whether a more focused OFC is your thing is a matter of taste I guess. For me, this record would have to fall off a fucking cliff on the 2nd side to not make my year-end list.

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

fucking A this song "Ashen Glory" is some kinda perfect heavy metal song. wow wow wow.

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

So yesterday I was at the Albert Ayler Festival, a free all-day out-jazz event with performances by five or so groups and a bunch of solo, duo and trio saxophone bits in between. In addition to the live music, which was awesome, they had record vendors there, one of whom had at least two Graveland albums in one of his bins. Free jazz + Nazi metal = a good look in 2010? I guess I missed that meeting.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

xpost to aerosmith:

gave that ares kingdom a listen a few months ago and it didn't do much for me. the mix was an issue. thought the vox were way too loud and the band sounded a little muted in comparison.

re-listening to "ashen glory" now and I still think that the vox are distracting. but the thrashy songwriting you mentioned definitely satisfies. particularly like the bit during the solo where the band switches gears to half-time and then picks up again. this is probably better than I gave it credit for.

maybe order from chaos would be more to my liking.

original bgm, Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

anyone else catch bastard noise live? saw them in brooklyn a few weeks ago and they have an undeniably killer sound. but waiting a pretty ridiculous amount of time for the band to start playing (well over an hour) in the ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL heat while jam-packed into a tiny venue filled with sweaty, stinky boys... well, I was basically worn down before they even started.

new record (a culture of monsters) is solid, though. still digging the return to the sludgy man is the bastard sound but I think I prefer the more direct approach on the endless blockade split. still, the "noise" stuff on here is certainly better integrated this time around.

will have to listen more before I fully make my mind up on this one but it's well worth a listen.

original bgm, Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

Man, I have a big backlog of metal that I've accumulated over the past few months that I still need to attend to!

You know, I've been thinking of retiring the "ksh" moniker on ILX, so I think I'm just gonna do that right now and take a few days off of the boards to focus on going through that backlog and doing other irl stuff that I need to attend to. I'll be back itt on Thursday under a new name. Goals upon returning: follow fewer threads, less unnecessary negativity, significantly fewer insubstantial posts, and a way more mindful approach to how I'm coming across. Think this will be good. See you all in a few days!

ksh, Monday, 12 July 2010 04:12 (fifteen years ago)

Awwwwwww.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 12 July 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

hey Scott, good news! The new October Tide is really depressing!

blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

The members of Iron Maiden were too busy touring to give the Cleveland Scene an interview, so...I went this route instead.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, great idea Phil.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

Very glad he's more cockney than cookie monster :)

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

As for Ares Kingdom, I don't think I'd listen to this regularly, but it does slam pretty hard. Good riffs and the blackened drum production works (at least on computer speakers).

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)


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