Rolling Country 2006 Thread

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I agree and disagree with Frank on "I personally think the Chicks do anger well, but everything - anger, loss, peacefulness - would be better if they thought deeper and harder, which is what I was really calling for. More and better thought. By cutting deeper I meant understanding further."

I agree with the anger thing--I mean, who else could put such sweet-and-sour pucker in such a kiss-off as "LubbocK?'--but on compulsive repeated listening, I just keep finding layers of things I wasn't looking for and thereefore am delighted to find.

What I feel nobody has really touched upon is the way, pirposelly or not, the Chicks and/or Rubin are using genre twich juxtaposition to negate genre and so get close to creating something new, but not 'new' in a lookit-my-refs-blend pomo way.

I think "Easy Silence" gets people because, yes, it's pretty as fuck and slow and intimate but it's to overt to be Low. Is it a ballad, folk--what the fuck is this thing? Are the background vocals gospelish or Beatles-ish?

Point is, the elements bounce off each other and reflect and what it is is "Easy Silence", no pun.

You get the same genre juxtaposing/neutering effect in "Silent House", whic chord-wise and even in some instrumental flourishes and harmonies, is an ELO ballad--about Alheimers. By a 'country' trio with a violinist from from Pennsylvania and a multi-string plucker from Massachusetts.

They don't just lift elements like Big & Rich might--they fuse them until the source materials are changed on, er, a genetic level or some other comparison that signifies 'essense'.

So on a sheer musical level, I think the Chicks thought long, hard and smart--and I'm also thinking, open-ear instincs had as much to do with it. OTOH, they are hyper self-aware--Natalie joked in NYC the amusing aspect of writing a song about infertility that has as chorus "it's so HARD with it doesn't COME easy" [her emphasis.]

[Side thought--have people written about how "Goodbye Earl" is not only about two women who kill a scumbag, but move into a house together to live happily ever?]

Anyway, on the newish one, I first thought the words were simply skillfully functional--but more and more they have this incredible elegance and economy. I mean, in four lines--

"And I will try to connect
All the pieces you left
I will carry it on
And let you forget"

--and they cover an arc that starts with tragedy, moves to acceptance and ends in honor and forced letting-go. Like, that's common skill?

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Then there's Martie's melancholic/screeching violin solo, which really wouldn't be out of place on a more distressing Diamonda Galas song.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Still haven't heard the album, but "And I will try to connect" etc. indeed suggests an emotional subtext/need re the musical sorting and regrouping you describe, something that extends the arc of the words,which would be conventional stages-of-adjustment, if they were only words, but apparently they're a point of departure for the musical context, or one of its inclinations, at least. So I guess I'll have to get the album, damn. Have you heard Home? Your description of this jibes with the way I hear that.

don (dow), Sunday, 20 August 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't really studied Home enough to say anything intelligent--not that I'm sure I'm getting across my idea, or sense of idea.

What I mean is--well, listen to "So Hard." The intro is out of Procol Harum's "The Devil Came from Kansas." The verse would fit nicely in any song by The Veronicas. Thos chorus--which uses the inflection of the intro--smooshes these two wildly different genre gestures into a new and kind of amazingly gainly shape.

The point is, what I guess I'll cal signifying genre tags are somehow neutralized--and that's really hard to do.


On "Goodbye Earl" they take a basic pop song form and the only thing that makes it 'country' is the addition of banjos and Natalie overplaying the hayseed card with the yelped "black-eyed peas!" stuff. In other words, the signifying tags are seperate and it just makes it another recombination.

But on so much of "Taking..." the tags dissapear, the fusion is seamless, which makes the music itself have this transparent, existing-outside-identifer quality whose lack of genre actually makes the words more powerful, a carrier frequncy or something.

Rubin worked with the approach on the third Cash record, but there the legend was so rish and trenchant it couldn't go all the way in the fusion/transparency thing. But the Chicks are sort or inherently malleable--sound-wise--and so it gets there, and it's a pretty sui generis there.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

As noted upthread, RAMMS+EIN is involved in an ongoing fusion experiement, but it's more Frencstein in nature and only works in the wonderful/weird context they've created of utter dead-faced sinmcerity and limitless camp. So that "Hollywood mariachi" thing--along with those weirdly scary/sexy female vocals--it's an almost typical RAMMS+EIN project, smooshing two things unfied by a shared funny creepines. (There's an actual blues song--okay, an acoustic blues riff--on "benzoin that unified misery from different idioms.)

Just saying that in the spirit of noting how different the Chciks project is. The Katrina Benefit version of "I Hope" even sounds like a dry run for "Taking..." It's faster ("soul/rock"), there's more Eagles semi-rock guitar, the sane sounds like Jeff Lynee produced it.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

Regardless of the "2006" in the topic. This thread needs more Gram. Now!

Torgeir Hansen (MRZBW), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

I just heard his cover of a Stones song on Pandora the other day. Wasn't impressed. He slowed it down, which did not make it more intense but mainly took the life out of it. (Didn't make a mental note of which song it was, but maybe Gram obsessives can help there.) If somebody would've asked me who would cover the Stones, better, Gram Parsons or Steve Earle, I would have guessed Gram, easy. And I would have been wrong. (At least judging from their two Stones covers I heard this week; it's possible they've done others.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

new montgomery gentry album is great, by the way -- possibly even an album of the year candidate, who knows. (as is the new hold steady, by the way, though i'm not sure what they'd have to do with country.) new tony joe white, pat green, and stoll vaughan (very energetic and rhythm-conscious folk-rocker who's apparently toured with def leppard, journey, and mellencamp) sound good too, though in the past couple weeks i've been so addicted to old vinyl i bought cheap and then pandora.com that i'm way way way behind in actual CD listening, a trend i expect to accelerate more in the near future. haven't played the new trace adkins yet; kind of scared to, though i like the music of both "swing" and "honkytonk badonkadonk (video mix)". an entertaining review of that album ran this week in the village voice, believe it or not; i never heard of the writer before, but google suggests he's in a garage rock band in detroit:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0633,cavalieri,74173,22.html

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Someone tell me about Mandy Barnett. I see she's been mentioned twice in this thread. I'd never heard her before, but they just played a video off her last album on Wide Open Country and it was lovely. What tracks should I search out? Why has she not released anything since 1999?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 28 August 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

that record from '99, "I've Got a Right to Cry," is awesome. recommended highly. I don't know why she hasn't done anything, actually; MIA, like Bobbie Cryner, who apparently hasn't recorded in years.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Her website said she was releasing an album in Spring 2005, but I guess they shelved it and never updated the info.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I saw her on some live show on CMT not too terribly long ago, still good. See reviews of Mandy and Bobbie on robertchristgau.com.

don (dow), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

(as is the new hold steady, by the way, though i'm not sure what they'd have to do with country.)

There's pedal steel (or at least steel guitar) on one track!

No Depression still won't let me review it. :(

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

pretty impressed by the new duhks record. I still feel like they're a bit too much at times, and the instrumental they do in several odd meters strikes me as some weird hybrid of fusoid-grass and oldtime cajun music. I think jessica, the singer, is great but I feel like she tries a bit too hard sometimes. I sometimes wish they'd just play a real fucking drum set. but I give them points for trying, and since the gary paczosa, who's one of the finest recorders of vocals in nashville (parton, prine, nickel creek, etc.) did the record, it sounds great. I have a feeling live is the way to see them. I talked to the percussionist, scott senior, today for a piece I'm doing on them, and he was smart. apparently he came out of playing cuban/latin music in winnepeg! so he had to adapt to what the duhks had already done. anyway, they seem a bit livelier but perhaps a touch less conceptually acute than the mammals--the mammals' "departure" struck me as sonically a bit botched? or am I off about this? in short, this isn't my thing at all but I find it quite listenable and some of their stuff is creeping up on me, so if I get to see them at AMA I might even become a fan.

speaking of botched sonically, "sailover," the new p.f. sloan record done in n-ville by jon tiven, is perhaps the worst-sounding record I've ever heard. the guy reviewing it in ND missed the point when he complained about the vocals: sloan can sing, it's just that the vocals are so poorly recorded and the performances tiven got are so below what sloan's capable of, that it sounds like sloan can't sing. a shame. even buddy miller and tiven's usual cast of guests can't save it from instant oblivion.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i've put on the new duhks CD since the 4th of july, but i definitely didn't think then that it was nearly as much fun as their previous or even as good as the early one that got reissued earlier this year. judging from my barely legible notes scrawled on the cover, my favorite tracks were "ol cook pot," "the fox and the bee," "down to the river," and "three fishers," which i think were mostly the tracks where they got most jiggy, and the two tracks that i found most irritating were "moses don't get lost" and "turtle dove," which i think were the tracks where they got most biblical.

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

todd snider has great concpetual power, and some pretty fantastic writing, and one great song, but teh album is mostly a throw away

i will mail mccoy w/i the next week

love ya'll

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

'gravy' on the new lost trailers album (maybe or maybe not their first, i dunno) may or may not be the first '00s country song (at least by a band with another song on the country chart, namely "why me," which isn't bad) to be about selling drugs: 'call my cowgirls, get 'em out, that's how we do it in the dirty south,' though sounds like it's inspired at least as much by 'weeds' (great TV show by the way -- though i've only seen the first season) as by young jeezy. and what they're selling is marijuana, not cocaine, and they are against legalization 'cause if that happened how would they pay off daddy's farm? seems to be the album's rocker (not to mention dance song: 'shake them grits, let's make some gravy'); the rest seems good but not great, though i like 'dixie boy special' and 'hey baby.'

also, toby's 'broken bridges' soundtrack is really good. he starts understated, winds up in zz top territory, and i'm real curious about these new southern rock bands flynnville train and poor richar's hound he's got on there. lindsey haun's 'broken' starts out with gloomy 'dream on'/'don't speak'/'don't close your eyes'/(some supertramp song i forget -- 'goodbye stranger,' maybe?) piano.

pat green album starts out good, gets dull in the second half, still a keeper. tony joe white and stoll vaughan CDs don't quite cut it.

country reissue of the year is the bob wills box set, obviously.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

broken bridges is?
tell me more!

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

(Anthony I found the Julie Roberts, will send) Working my way through the Shout Factory John Lee Hooker box, though it's not much work to do so, so far (doing this in between more mandatory listening, so no sustained thot process so far, if ever). Not country per se, but certainly downhome, and may well make Top Ten/Reissues. Career overview, most extensive so far. A set from Hooker 'N' Heat (is that in print?) Al Wilson's zen spot-on harp.

don (dow), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

fashion rocks, vapid, silly, obnoxious, with much pop absurdity, oddly the tim/faith duet, lit dark, them huddklign together, singing about each other as a narcotic, as a religion, was so erotic, and tender, and way too intimate for hte venue...well worth watching.

thanks don

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 9 September 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Broken Bridges is Toby's acting debut, " a world of difference from making videos," is pretty much how he summed it up (I just saw the end of a Making Of thingette on CMT)Also incl Willie Nelson, Kelly Preston, Burt Reynolds, whose face now looks like a hasty ink drawing on a brown paper bag (and people make fun of Kenny Rogers' eyework)

don (dow), Saturday, 9 September 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

its not the eye work thats bothering me about rogers, its that he looks liek the kid from mask

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 9 September 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think the Duhks doing Tracy Chapman equals the Duhks doing Fraser & deBolt. I like them--like the singer--and the new one sounds rawer and a bit more "ambient" than "The Duhks." I don't get the "salsa rhythms" and "African rhythms" in the common description of them, though. The *textures* are pretty cool. But it seems to me that Scott Senior plays *along* with 'em more than actually driving them. Expecting a soul-man "pocket," which I always do I guess, is of course too much. I think I like the Mammals' record a bit better, but it doesn't sound good to me, whether that was intentional or not, don't know.

New Alan Jackson is a bit...Jackson-esque, statesman-esque, canned. However, I do like "Nobody Said It Would Be Easy," rueful and with electric piano and chord changes out of Marshall Tucker and maybe Little Feat and any number of rueful '70s tunes? That descending heartbreak-tug. it works, though it kinda goes flat. And boy, high-quality atmospheric guitar intro to "The Fire Fly's Song" and Alan going on about standing in the young man's boots, "this old man don't run no more." And here's how fucking smart Alan is: I'm all sucked into feeling sorry for the poor lame guy, and yeah, "I don't want you like I used to...I want you more." Quite nice guitar lick in there and again, that slight pop heartbreak shit. Canny.

And, did this Tony Joe White piece that is coming out in American Songwriter, and had fun listening to his Monument shit. "High Sheriff of Calhoun Parish" finds TJ resisting advances of the H.S.'s nubile daughter, but getting his ass kicked again, and I am not kidding, the intro to "Even Trolls Love Rock 'n' Roll" is like the Talking Heads gone funk-African-southern on "Remain in Light." Tony Joe plays a mean guitar.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

high-quality atmospheric guitar intro to "The Fire Fly's Song" and Alan going on about standing in the young man's boots, "this old man don't run no more." And here's how fucking smart Alan is: I'm all sucked into feeling sorry for the poor lame guy, and yeah, "I don't want you like I used to...I want you more." Quite nice guitar lick in there and again, that slight pop heartbreak shit. Canny.

great, great track. not so sure about the rest of the album (the "bluebird" song seemed good, much of the rest is likeable), but "the fire fly" is really the equal of merle haggard in aging-mode. which seems weird to me -- alan's not all THAT old, is he??

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

amanda wilkinson, of the canadian family band, the wilkinsons (who in their decade of recording, have one good song in them--LA), has a solo album with a tracey champman cover. its one of the more anemic recordings ive heard.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

Anne McCue, this Australian singer-songwriter-lead-guitarist I just finshed writing about for PaperThinWalls (check it out yall: MP3s, and streamers in the archives), covers a TJW I'd never heard, "As The Crow Flies." Rolls, but heavier than he prob would, and with lots of sustain, sort of like Robin Trower meets Tony Joe. (But Ah suspect the actual Robin would try to play slower than this, and the actual Tony Joe would leave his ass.) Link Wray sings (and plays the acoustic) shit out of Tony Joe's "Backwoods Preacher Man," on The Link Wray Rumble (Epic), one of my faves of the 70s.

don (dow), Sunday, 10 September 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

im writing about another singer songwriter this weekend, cyndi boste---which makes me more curious about the aussie country scene

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Alan Jackson is that much older than me, or you, Chuck. Because I was tired of Bill Friskics-Warren crowing about how he runs, like, 8 miles a day, I really got into it this spring, when my mom was sick and I needed to detox daily. I'm up to 5. And, seems like Alan would have access to some gyms that I don't--and good-looking instructors, maybe, who inspire him. Here, I gotta watch not to get run over by people hauling tobacco (which is being cured right now).

Anyway, I really like Jackson's record in a mild way, and I think he does aging about as well as Haggard. I don't think he sings as distinctively--something isn't *there* with Jackson, is the best way I can put it. But this is a cool pop record, full of somewhat magical touches of chord-progression, mainly, that sneak up on you. Mildly magical, you have to really listen. It seems like Krauss had some kind of strategy akin to what she does when she covers pop songs?

I have this Anne McCue record right here--I need to listen, I guess. I'm still into Tony Joe White--"Mama, Don't Let Your Cowboys Grow Up to Be Babies," with Waylon, from '80. "I Thought I Knew You Well," his most pop moment--his most American Studios-crafted song, sort of like a really good Box Tops record. Better, probably. And the strangest one, "Old Man Willis," where Old Man W. is a crazed redneck--bootlegger? white-slaver?--and ends up *killing* his entire family, in between driving too fast and drinking. (Anybody who wants a burn of this TJW comp, let me know--Tony Joe as Swamp-Monster Pervert.)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

that tony joe white sounds amazing edd, tell us more

here is my review of the dixie chicks:

Dixie Chicks
Taking the Long Way Around
Columbia
2006

I have been listening to this pretty steady, for weeks, at least once a day, and have heard the singles and videos before that, and no opinion has come to dominate my thoughts. There is a lot here, and some listens I am willing to condemn it as pretentiously self absorbed and some listens it’s the album of the year, better than the album of the y ear, best protest album since Free Wheeling Bob Dylan. Obviously it is none of those things, or at least none of those things fully contain the albums difficult significance. Some of he difficulty comes with such lofty thoughts as the role of the artist in times of war, and sometimes I think, its been six years, why can’t these three just get over themselves.

It’s probably more productive to talk about what I love here, at least initially. Academically, I love that there is a major, non indie, non alternative country artist not only talking about the difficulties with the president but with the whole red state culture of viscous misogyny, hatred, and war mongering. There anti-romantic odes against small towns have a refreshing vitriol, the first lines of the first song, talk about how “my friends from high school, married their high school boyfriends, moved into houses, in the same ZIP codes where their parents live. But I could never follow.” That rebel yell of urban and nomadic tendencies is something that country needs to hear.

It also needs to hear Lubbock or Leave it where she rolls quick and angry saying that the bible belt never saved her, refusing the pressure to be a good Christian, and tearing about the hypocrisy of certain American religious practices. It’s the most anti jesus song ive heard with a bluegrass backing, especially when lines like “the secrets you hide behind your southern hospitality on the strip the kids get it, so they can have a real good time come Sunday they can just take their pick from the crucifix skyline…” spit nails.

Aside from the politics, there are moments of profound beauty. Sometimes Maine sings lower and darker then the material calls for and it has the effect of whispering in a din. People are forced to bend over, and listen to what is being said. Though they have been doing this for ages, especially in their cover of Landslide, they have perfected it in Lullaby. When she sings, “How long do you want to be loved? Is forever enough? Is forever enough? “, it gives off the same feeling as Brian Wilson singing “may not always love you/ But long as there are stars above you/ You never need to doubt it/Ill make you so sure about it” . There are other examples: the sharp wail of Silent House, the rueful mourning of Favorite Year, co-written by Sheryl Crow, post cancer and post Lance, the introductory notes of pedal steel, like a heart beat on I Like it, and the sultry, jazz tempos of the last song, I Hope, another about the hypocrisy of the south.

That said, there is much here that cannot be recommended. There is a core of self-righteousness here, a hectoring quality to the lyrics, like they know what is right for America, and the hectoring comes without the humor or self-deprecation or force of other writers who do this. If you are trying to tell the world how to live, whining about it is not the most effective way about it. The first single, Not Ready to Make Nice, claims to be “mad as hell”, but just sounds petulant. It is incredibly self absorbed in places, as well—for example in Easy Silence, an ode to a lover who’s only purpose is to provide refuge for all the mean people who haven’t been very nice to the Chicks. On Everybody Knows, they become paranoid to such a degree, it seems almost clinical, and on So Hard, they talk about how painful it is to be Cassandra’s.

Its been six years since they talked about being ashamed of the president, and in those 6 years, they have been threatened with death, rape, and losing careers. They have had their albums pulled from radio stations bull dozed, and boycotted. They have been slandered in the national press, and been slimed by people who refused their talent. They had to have recorded this album with all of this in mind, and part of me is glad that they replied to their critics with genuine emotion. Being self-absorbed is understandable under the current circumstances, if a little boring in places.

I think being so conflicted about the work in question is a good thing, it refuses easy and simple categorizations, cheap politics and cheaper theatrics. They have broken from the Nashville ghetto, and I’m excited what happens next, and that’s something I cannot say about many bands.


anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Nice review, Anthony, but I don't get that last line...

There's a feature by me on Anne McCue in the new ND. She can really play guitar and her songwriting is getting better. The album is too long and not the total breakthrough I was hoping for--but close. Grooves ala TJW or post-blues Fleetwood Mac are ace.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

yep, roy's piece on anne in ND is good. I dunno, I got to listen to it again, didn't engage me so much the first time, but I'm going on five hours sleep.

and I agree w/ roy, anthony--what's the nashville "ghetto"? they got too much money to call it a ghetto. plus, they made their bush comments in early '03.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

i mean what i was talking about earlier, about how they are trying no longer to be a country band, and to be something else (AA?)

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Well, AA is a ghetto too of course (a much smaller one, actually).

So what do people here think of Chris Knight? Enough Rope sounds like I'd like it okay if a more lively singer was singing, which suggests to me the guy's got Steve Earle disease. (Also, I'm guessing they're both Clash fans, judging from Knight's title.) As is, it's real clunky. Xgau is a fan*. the Am i missing something?


*: http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=255&name=Chris+Knight

Enjoying the new Redhill album, which stretches out their EP nicely. And I'm finding more stuff than I expected to like on the new Trace Adkins -- "Ladies Love Country Boys," "I Came Here To Live," and especially "The Stubbon One" have good (if sometimes predictable) specifics in their lyrics, and he sure sings better than Knight does.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

i didnt really have space, but yr right chuck, im trying to figure out where they will go next, cause this album is kind of a fuck you to the country demographic, and well AA is much too small to contain them...

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Goodun Anthony; yeah, that was Sasha's early take, that they're overtaxing their writing skills (despite hired-hand collabs) and should have expressed themselves more through appropriate covers, as on previous albums. I think you mean they may be escaping Nashville Hit City insularity, but certainly they seem to feel isolated as hell, which may not bode well(the Beatles had quality control and other issues in their own Fortress Of Solitude, after they stopped touring and the "Bigger Than Jesus" scandal, speaking of having your records burned etc.)Chicks should get out more, after the tour; why not mix and mingle a bit, with Emmylou, Willie, so many others--it's not like Toby and Reba or nothing. (They were good on Sheryl Crow And Friends Live, why not go hang on stage with her again)I'm excited that you're writing about Cyndie Boste. I hope she sent you her previous albums. If not, ask, and she will; you really should hear them. I could tape tham for you, but I think you said you don't have a player. You should listen before reading what I wrote about her first album, Home Truths, which is about dealing with the legacy of domestic violence, but at some point, check "Alias In Wonderland" (about her and several others) at villagevoice.com. McCue's albums (studio; haven't heard the live)took me a while, but they really reward repeated listenings, even the first,most consistently folky pop romantic one, Amazing Ordinary Things. (Her personal mythology got more subtle structuralism than most, and some rock muscle down in there, though of course much more overt on Roll and the more varied new Koala Motel)The PaperThin review will be up one of these days, and I'll post an alert. Edd, I would like a burn of that TJW, please. Will send at least some of what i said I would soon (Willie's Country Music Concert Missing In Stacks but I know it's here somewhere)

don (dow), Monday, 11 September 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

don

i have given it a couple of listens, its slippery, and i dont think ive given it enough space

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

awright, tony joe for don.

just thought I'd mention this LP I got: Jerry Reed and Chet Akins, "Me and Jerry," from '70. Covers of shit like "MacArthur Park" and "Wreck of the John B." as well as the really good stuff, Jerry 'n' Chester just hangin' out on some jazzy instrumentals (the whole thang is instrumental, but the covers are weird) like "Stump Water" and "Cannonball Rag." I mean I like the Duhks but this is really world music. Plus, on the cover, Chet is sitting back waiting for Jerry to change the tire on his convertible.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 11 September 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hold on a minute! "Macarthur Park" is one of the greatest songs ever written!

I was very pleased to find a version on a Waylon 2-for-1 I bought cheap the other week. The quality surprised me, I'd never paid much attention to WJ before.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

tim are you tugging my leg?
with the cake and the rain and the recipe not being used again?

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

Man alive, that's one of my favourite songs of all time! I don't know why people seem to worry so much about the cake, it's a fairly simple metaphor (albeit a bit of a mixed one at times). We like unusual metaphors in songs, don't we?

And the "...after all the loves of my life, you'll still be the one" bit is heartbreaking in every version I've heard.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I mean "MacArthur" is all right, just that everybody did it back then. They also do "Something," which is a great song, but the Beatles did such a brilliant arrangement on it. The throwaway things are the best on that Reed/Atkins record.

So, I think Alan Jackson's record is just so sly; what it reminds me of, strangely enough, is John Cale's "Paris 1919." The slide guitar and the air of things recollected at a distance; in fact, Cale seemed peripheral to Europe or whatever the fuck he was singing about then, and so does Jackson to the South, somehow. Myth, which puts him into Haggard territory. What I really like about the record are the musical details, the singing is fine but I have to concentrate more to get what his relationship to his wild youth. It's mythical, so when he sings about the devil sitting there with a grin, that registers, sure, but it's the little guitar figure you remember.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent post (a reprint technically) about Johnny Cash on the occasion of the 3rd anniversary of his death (tomorrow): http://www.livinginstereo.com/

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Edd! I guess I really need to delve into Webb sometime. When Ben Edmonds was Editor of Creem, he made sure there was plenty coverage of Webb's own (infrequent) albums, and other crits were adamant advocates, but mostly I know the early hits for Glenn Campbell. Wasn't their "reunion" album, with Webb actually involved in more than the writing, kind of like an art countrypop thing? Think it said on allmusic, but I don't feel like clicking through all their hoops right now. Tim, you might want to look for Richard Harris's album with his orig hit of "Macarthur Park"--was it A Tramp Shining? Richard in closeup profile, sort of Napoleonic-looking, but with autumnal mustache and sideburns (yes, they look like melancholy leaves). It's all Webb songs; of course Richard's got more tremelo than anybody other than Gary Stewart, but/and I confess I played the hell out of it when I was a melancholy teen.(Haven't seen my copy in decades, and no idea if I'd like it now, but the writing seemed very consistent).

don (dow), Monday, 11 September 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I love both those Harris LPs ("A Tramp Shining" and "The Yard Went On Forever" - the latter has "The Hymns From Grand Terrace" which almost matches "MP" in scale).

The Glen Campbell - Jimmy Webb LP is magnificent, yes, and yes it's art countrypop: JW's writing at its best is this odd mixture of smart and dumb which I find enormously charming. The country is more of a flavour than a foundation stone, but it is there. An interesting point of comparison is "Watermark" the LP Art Garfunkel made arond the same time, using mostly Webb songs. "Watermark" is also a brilliant record, but much more of a yachtpop proposition than the Campbell. It also has the distinction of being extremely easy to find in the £1 bins, always a bonus.

Even close followers of Glen tend to admit that his LPs in the late 70s and early 80s tended to have only the odd gem, and often the gem turned out to be a Jimmy Webb tune: "Highwayman", "Cristiaan, No", marvellous stuff there.

As for Jimmy's solo LPs, their success depends fairly heavily on your ability to acquire the taste for his voice. Probably, your best bet is to get the "Archive" best of (esp the new expanded version with the Live At The Albert Hall CD, which may be UK-only, I'm not sure). It's really well-compiled and covers most of the goodies from the albums.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of richard harris, i am enromously fondo f the hive, and i think thats true even w/o the kitsch factor

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

I recently picked up a Jimmy Webb solo album from last year (Twilight of the Renegades) but haven't got around to it yet. I don't have high hopes for it but I was curious, anyone familiar with it?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

I saw him play big chunks of it live last year, and some of the songs seemed strong, but I haven't yet taken a chance on the album. Sorry.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

What's "the hive" Anthony? And how can there be Harris without a kitsch factor? His action movies, maybe? A Man Called Horse was pretty cool. I saw a clip that excerpted Webb's Albert Hall or something from early 70s: very slow, almost halting, and nasal, sort of like he was trying to imitate the pre-yacht James Taylor (Sweet Baby James etc; you know, the Introspective Years)(although the late 70s JT was probably his best album of that)

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda liking Spady Brannan's album The Long Way Around and Other Short Stories, good songs and he can croon even though he can't really sing that well, but not as much as I like Terrance Simien's Across the Parish Line, which succeeds even though it's glaringly obvious in its song choices (god another version of "Louisiana 1927"?) — might be the fact that it's the only zydeco album I can think of that starts with an ambient-jazz remix?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

wow, that sounds cool on Terrance. Now, Richard Harris: I own "A Tramp Shining." What a great album, and yeah, without kitsch, where is the Man Called Horse, I ask? It's a classic of its kind, in fact I am drinking a beer right now and wish I had a whisky--cool, wet, rainy, cloudy here today, weather that gets me down.

I dunno, Gary Bennett's record is nice, but it's the singing that drags me a bit. R.S. Field's production is ace, however. I like it fine, wish he'd gotten a bit more down and dirty.

And shit, I never thought I'd say this, but Alan Jackson really made something like a great album, his new one. Or Alison Krauss did. It kinda got stuck in my head and I have to hear the first 5-6 songs daily--"Fire Flys"especially is just ingenious. Operates in the realm of the everyday uncanny or something like that--Alan Jackson don't even have to try but he's trying here to do something he perceives he needs to try to do, and almost not tries and succeeds. "Sometimes less is more," he sings. I'm impressed.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)


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