ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

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i like that slowed down "the rip" more than the orig

nylon smile is the only track i care abt on that album

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The Rip is so unbelievably gorgeous - I'd love for Portishead to use it as a jumping off point for the next album.

What actually happened was that The Horrors used it as a jumping off point for their big 8-minute single, which I ended up preferring to The Rip (SB me)

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

if you insist

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

wow! this entire top 20 has been pretty amazing so far.

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that if you don't like "Machine Gun", you don't like melancholy death robots, and if you don't like melancholy death robots, well you're no friend of mine.

my funny mommy hole, sweet funny mommy hole (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

dan pretty much has it in one there

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Melancholy death robots don't need to be liked by anyone unless they're emo losers.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Bought "Third" because of ILM love, listened to it, didn't remember a thing from it. "Rip" sounds great to me now though. "Machine Gun" I can't seem to hear as a song, only as a collage.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Well of COURSE the melancholy death robots don't care! I do, though.

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

15. LADY GAGA "Bad Romance" (2009) [442.5 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

First shit song in the top 20. I wish it would go away :(

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

:P to you, sir.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i never understood the fuss over that one. if the video didn't come out i probably wouldn't have listened to it more than twice. i can't believe it's THIS high, really. recency effect? fuck idk

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a decent song! Personally I would have picked "Telephone" and "Paparazzi" over it, though.

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

If this song had come out on January 1, 2005, I'd still have been voting for it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The Hitchcock verse is pretty great

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Somehow I expected "Bad Romance" to sound more modern. But is there any sense in which this couldn't have been a hit in 1988? Maybe the nonsense singing at the beginning, but that's it. Also, I think the woodblock sounds like was recorded in a different room from everything else.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

This one should've been top ten.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

But is there any sense in which this couldn't have been a hit in 1988

Yeah I get that. I think it's got a very specific type of naffness that you don't get much of these days that I find really offputting in pop - its got a female Adam Ant vibe to it and that is total DO NOT WANT as far as I'm concerned.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

my favourite thing about "bad romance" is the way the synths go a bit mental under the first round of "rah-rah-rah-ah-ah"s. my second favourite is I DON'T WANNA BE FREEEEEENCH

"telephone" is the better song tho, yes! but "bad romance" is a classic and also i can't really deny a song that has the power to make me do a 180 on a previously-hated artist

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, the whole reason why it's so remarkable is that's it's basically a big new beat pastiche that managed to become a massive pop hit; it totally could have come out in '88 but no one outside of a goth club would have paid any attention to it.

xp: uh I'm pretty sure that's "I don't wanna be friends"

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

The chorus always struck me as very Cher-ish, like from the "If I Could Turn Back Time" era.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

gaga can sing, adam ant couldn't

xp yeah but the way she slips into french just before the last iteration of it always makes me think FREEEENCH, and i'm pretty sure she was at least aware of that

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I loathe and despise the production on Lady Gaga stuff. It just makes it sound so weak and joyless - I can't understand why anyone thinks it is fun.

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

but then again her yelping on "WATCH OUT BAD ROMANCE" sounds kind of like "WHACHOWBARUMASS" so it really could be anything

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

haha isn't that WANT YOUR BAD ROMANCE?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

to its credit, i did like bad romance's production... and the song is good, just not terrific imo. i was actually surprised the production was done by redone considering everything i'd heard from him before was godawful.

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

It's only the chorus that I really hate, it's so self-consciously wacky in all the worst ways. It sort of reminds me of Boney M in a weird way as well that I can't put my finger on.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

14. BURIAL "Archangel" (2007) [446 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQIQ_muEKHk

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

haha isn't that WANT YOUR BAD ROMANCE?

ha this proves my point re: wtf did she just say?

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

is that the one tuomas was talking about earlier?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Archangel is the only Burial record I ever want to listen to these days, maybe the only one I really wanted to hear at the time, probably the only one you really need, and yet I still go back to it time and time again.

It's got exactly the right euphoric-melancholic balance you want in the best dance music as well, I remember Ripperton playing it in the middle of a set of ultra-dry minimal and it was like he'd suddenly sprayed the place with water. Amazing record.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe it's because I wasn't listening to pop music in 1988 but Bad Romance feels very modern to me. So much current music has obvious genre touchstones but Gaga sounds like, well, Gaga.

skip, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The point is that pop music in 88 didn't sound like Gaga; one particular branch of club music (new beat/industrial) sounded like Gaga.

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Bad Romance = Come On Eileen I think. It's 1982 rather than 1988 - the sort of nonsensical chorus with huge wide intervals that is designed to be bellowed as loudly as possible.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Come On Eileen + Lords of Acid, maybe?

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

if it was really the "come on eileen" de nos jours then i would LOATHE it => ergo it is not

burial is still nothing more than background music to me, and if i was gonna isolate any individual track it's be "in mcdonald's", not "archangel"

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I think of him as background music as well but that track just has this silvery quality that the rest of them lack. Helps you can sing along to it as well.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Things are heating up. The top 20 so far paints a pretty vivid picture of the era.

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

if it was really the "come on eileen" de nos jours then i would LOATHE it => ergo it is not

eh, that depends on what qualities Matt is picking out that makes it the new "Come On Eileen" (which I kind of disagree with; so much of that song is built around the arrangement that I can't really translate the detail Matt picked out to "Bad Romance")

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the first time I've knowingly heard Bad Romance and christ is it a bloated pustule of crap

Burial track has something ruminatively intense going for it but it doesn't quite leap at me - maybe I need to hear it in a club for it to fully work

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

You're supposed to listen to it on the night bus on the way home from the club, but it works better on an actual dancefloor I think.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

That's the song I mentioned earlier. I haven't listened to much dubstep, and the few things I have heard haven't impressed me that much, but "Archangel" is a really unique and evocative tune. I should've voted for it, if I'd known the title.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the first time I've knowingly heard Bad Romance

Do not understand how this is possible unless you live in the most remote parts of, say, Mongolia.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Great top 20 so far. I think Paparazzi > Bad Romance (although I voted for both) but yeah, BR's huge chorus makes it sound more iconic and therefore more memorable, if that makes any sense.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably works well on a night-bus too. Have not heard Burial on a night-bus but have been hallooed by a hauntology blogger on the N21 before - similar sort of thing maybe

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Burial track reminds me most of ICBYD-era Aphex, albeit with the edges rounded and the bass deepened

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

so much of that song is built around the arrangement that I can't really translate the detail Matt picked out to "Bad Romance

Yeah I'm not really talking about details, I'm talking about the feeling I get off the chorus, like I said great wide intervals that can be bellowed along to and bits in the chorus that don't mean anything.

I can't remember anything about the arrangement, it's only the vocals that stick in my mind, but I'm not suggesting the production has a Dexy's Midnight Runners quality or anything.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

13. CIARA "Promise" (2006) [456 points, 14 votes, 3 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPyzCHgZ88

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

fever yr going too fast

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link


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