ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

Machine Gun >>> The Rip

I voted for 'Machine Gun' and not 'The Rip' because I think Machine Gun is a brilliant, brilliant song and the Rip a nice little experiment

but yeah my prediction upthread of The Rip in 10-20 and Machine Gun in the top 10 is still on

wouldn't be surprised to see machine gun still make it.

xpost re girls aloud: Nothing wrong with the video. The VEVO version is cropped for some reason.

16. PORTISHEAD "Machine Gun" (2008) [424.5 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8azH3iJWsI&feature=fvst

The Rip is so unbelievably gorgeous - I'd love for Portishead to use it as a jumping off point for the next album. They're very good at doom-laden but it feels like they can do it in their sleep by now.

(xpost lololol)

No point sitting on this since people are already talking about it.

Portishead went back-to-back.

Well, I'm happy my vote established the correct order, at least! :D

I actually gave Small more than 10 points more than Machine Gun, because Small is pretty much Portishead's crowning achievement and a quite staggering piece of music on any level IMO

the same people voted for both portishead songs then?

no, as said above I only voted for Machine Gun

i like that slowed down "the rip" more than the orig

nylon smile is the only track i care abt on that album

The Rip is so unbelievably gorgeous - I'd love for Portishead to use it as a jumping off point for the next album.

What actually happened was that The Horrors used it as a jumping off point for their big 8-minute single, which I ended up preferring to The Rip (SB me)

if you insist

wow! this entire top 20 has been pretty amazing so far.

I think that if you don't like "Machine Gun", you don't like melancholy death robots, and if you don't like melancholy death robots, well you're no friend of mine.

dan pretty much has it in one there

Melancholy death robots don't need to be liked by anyone unless they're emo losers.

Bought "Third" because of ILM love, listened to it, didn't remember a thing from it. "Rip" sounds great to me now though. "Machine Gun" I can't seem to hear as a song, only as a collage.

Well of COURSE the melancholy death robots don't care! I do, though.

15. LADY GAGA "Bad Romance" (2009) [442.5 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I

First shit song in the top 20. I wish it would go away :(

:P to you, sir.

yeah i never understood the fuss over that one. if the video didn't come out i probably wouldn't have listened to it more than twice. i can't believe it's THIS high, really. recency effect? fuck idk

It's a decent song! Personally I would have picked "Telephone" and "Paparazzi" over it, though.

If this song had come out on January 1, 2005, I'd still have been voting for it.

The Hitchcock verse is pretty great

Somehow I expected "Bad Romance" to sound more modern. But is there any sense in which this couldn't have been a hit in 1988? Maybe the nonsense singing at the beginning, but that's it. Also, I think the woodblock sounds like was recorded in a different room from everything else.

This one should've been top ten.

But is there any sense in which this couldn't have been a hit in 1988

Yeah I get that. I think it's got a very specific type of naffness that you don't get much of these days that I find really offputting in pop - its got a female Adam Ant vibe to it and that is total DO NOT WANT as far as I'm concerned.

my favourite thing about "bad romance" is the way the synths go a bit mental under the first round of "rah-rah-rah-ah-ah"s. my second favourite is I DON'T WANNA BE FREEEEEENCH

"telephone" is the better song tho, yes! but "bad romance" is a classic and also i can't really deny a song that has the power to make me do a 180 on a previously-hated artist

Well, the whole reason why it's so remarkable is that's it's basically a big new beat pastiche that managed to become a massive pop hit; it totally could have come out in '88 but no one outside of a goth club would have paid any attention to it.

xp: uh I'm pretty sure that's "I don't wanna be friends"

The chorus always struck me as very Cher-ish, like from the "If I Could Turn Back Time" era.

gaga can sing, adam ant couldn't

xp yeah but the way she slips into french just before the last iteration of it always makes me think FREEEENCH, and i'm pretty sure she was at least aware of that

I loathe and despise the production on Lady Gaga stuff. It just makes it sound so weak and joyless - I can't understand why anyone thinks it is fun.

but then again her yelping on "WATCH OUT BAD ROMANCE" sounds kind of like "WHACHOWBARUMASS" so it really could be anything

haha isn't that WANT YOUR BAD ROMANCE?

to its credit, i did like bad romance's production... and the song is good, just not terrific imo. i was actually surprised the production was done by redone considering everything i'd heard from him before was godawful.

It's only the chorus that I really hate, it's so self-consciously wacky in all the worst ways. It sort of reminds me of Boney M in a weird way as well that I can't put my finger on.

14. BURIAL "Archangel" (2007) [446 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQIQ_muEKHk

haha isn't that WANT YOUR BAD ROMANCE?

ha this proves my point re: wtf did she just say?

is that the one tuomas was talking about earlier?

Archangel is the only Burial record I ever want to listen to these days, maybe the only one I really wanted to hear at the time, probably the only one you really need, and yet I still go back to it time and time again.

It's got exactly the right euphoric-melancholic balance you want in the best dance music as well, I remember Ripperton playing it in the middle of a set of ultra-dry minimal and it was like he'd suddenly sprayed the place with water. Amazing record.

Maybe it's because I wasn't listening to pop music in 1988 but Bad Romance feels very modern to me. So much current music has obvious genre touchstones but Gaga sounds like, well, Gaga.

The point is that pop music in 88 didn't sound like Gaga; one particular branch of club music (new beat/industrial) sounded like Gaga.

Bad Romance = Come On Eileen I think. It's 1982 rather than 1988 - the sort of nonsensical chorus with huge wide intervals that is designed to be bellowed as loudly as possible.

Come On Eileen + Lords of Acid, maybe?

if it was really the "come on eileen" de nos jours then i would LOATHE it => ergo it is not

burial is still nothing more than background music to me, and if i was gonna isolate any individual track it's be "in mcdonald's", not "archangel"

Yeah I think of him as background music as well but that track just has this silvery quality that the rest of them lack. Helps you can sing along to it as well.

Things are heating up. The top 20 so far paints a pretty vivid picture of the era.