ILM July Madness: Round of 32 - WEST

be *in* the xp

Also, can I really be on the verge of voting for CCR over the Stones?!??!?!?

"doing his act" smh

plus noting that ilm hive mind is kinda guy-centric /= sexisme!

it kinda IS tbh

encore encore

boring zing to go with boring taste

Also, why stink JD/NO together, besides the obv. reason?

not sure if your obv reason is 'they're the same dudes' or 'I was really limited in spots'...but, both. I was asking for recs in the thread that brought this about and that's how they came...it seemed to make sense for the purpose of this poll. maybe if this were 64 I woulda split em up. overall I don't think it's worse than sticking parliament/funkadelic together.

lex, go play on another thread

was just thinking "they're the same dudes" as the obv. reason; I'd have liked to separate them but yeah, limited spots + "just a poll" so obv. no problem.

do polls better

Beach Boys, Biggie, Stones, Bowie

Prince vs. Sabbath is definitely going to be the toughest decision of any of these.

Can, ABBA, CCR, David Bowie

I like this poll idea, iatee. Now we can finally get to the bottom of this.

this was my borderline list btw:

Pavement
Sonic Youth
Roxy Music
Daft Punk
Jay-Z
Aphex Twin
Joni Mitchell
Pixies
Pet Shop Boys

I think they'd all get plenty of votes, but, what to delete?

Beach Boys, The Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, David Bowie

Can vs Beach Boys def hardest for me.

ah i gotcha iatee

out of all these i really only like CCR and B.I.G...

well OK i like the stones too

Can, Abba, Rolling Stones, Bowie

David Bowie vs Joy Division/New Order was the toughest for me.

but fuck the Beach Boys

― The Reverend

proud to call this man my friend

Can, Abba, Rolling Stones, Bowie

I think they'd all get plenty of votes, but, what to delete?

Maybe just buy a copy of Mojo and see who isn't mentioned?

lol Matt DC, high five

Beach Boys, The Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order

― iatee, Tuesday, July 6, 2010

Yep.

― BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Tuesday, July 6, 2010

Thirded, the only tough one for me was Stones vs CCR. I went with the Stones whose quantity of quality trumps CCR's quality of quantity.

So how do you decide who advances here? I can imagine two options:

The set of four bands that wins the poll advances.

The four bands with the highest number of votes within their brackets advance.

I'm pretty sure that it is mathematically possible for these two options to yield different results.

its the four bands with the highest number of votes w/in their brackets

Maybe just buy a copy of Mojo and see who isn't mentioned?

lol things lots of people agree on are generally boring and safe omg what a zing

can BIG CCR new order; BIG won in penalty kix

okay inspired by 69 and the world cup I am going to enact a penalty kick system for ties

poll w/ 5 songs by one artist vs. 5 songs by the other

Can, ABBA, Stones, Bowie

Couple of tough choices there, but Can and ABBA weren't among them.

How are you determining the winner of these? Because just allowing the winning combination to go through is a bit flawed, IMO.

Imagine, for instance, a poll with these results:

Beach Boys, Notorious B.I.G., CCR, David Bowie 15
Can, ABBA, Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order 14
Can, ABBA, Rolling Stones, David Bowie 14
Can, ABBA, CCR, Joy Division/New Order 12
Can, ABBA, CCR, David Bowie 10
Can, Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order 9
Can, Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, David Bowie 8
Can, Notorious B.I.G., CCR, Joy Division/New Order 7
Can, Notorious B.I.G., CCR, David Bowie 5
Beach Boys, ABBA, Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order 4
Beach Boys, ABBA, Rolling Stones, David Bowie 4
Beach Boys, ABBA, CCR, Joy Division/New Order 3
Beach Boys, ABBA, CCR, David Bowie 3
Beach Boys, Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order 2
Beach Boys, Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, David Bowie 2
Beach Boys, Notorious B.I.G., CCR, Joy Division/New Order 1

Going by the poll results alone, this would put the Beach Boys, Biggie, CCR, and Bowie through.

However, if you actually count the number of total votes each act got, it looks like this:

Can 79
ABBA 64
Bowie 61
Stones 57
CCR 56
JD/NO 52
Biggie 49
Beach Boys 34

(I suppose there's another configuration that would allow the same quartet at the top but with Joy Division/New Order getting more votes than Bowie. I've already put too much thought into this to figure it out, though.)

he's doing the second thing that you did, the poll's just structured like this so that we don't need 4 separate poll threads

OK good!

poll w/ 5 songs by one artist vs. 5 songs by the other

This will be a trainwreck

I know huh

if someone can think of a better penalty kick system I will consider it, but it has to be:

a. a system where each artist wins x/5 in an arbitrary manner that is basically unrelated to the overall poll
b. trainwrecky

For each of the five songs on each list, we have a poll on whether that song sucks or not, & if we vote "sucks" then that's like a blocked kick.

how do we pick the songs?

There's the trainwreck right there

I will fight anyone who picks the wrong Can songs

random selection from old POX threads in the archive

I think that to pick the five songs, we have to have polls.

ohhhhhh CCR = creedence clearwater revival. i've heard half of one of their songs ever, at a bbq

See, this makes me feel better about being the guy who has never heard "Umbrella," because it's equally strange to me to imagine never having heard CCR -- they are not now top 40 obv. but the songs are pop standards, are background music for a thousand things, you hear it in the grocery... then again I am a dad so maybe the songs are played in some frequency only I can hear?

Anyway, CCR vs. Stones is interesting -- I feel like one wants to vote down RS for their last 25 years of "strangely, we still exist" but I think Rolling Stones had a higher peak -- sort of a Martinez vs. Maddux thing

Also I assume you're American?

man I think nothing riles me up more re. lol Britain vs. USA than the proud provinciality of Britishes against CCR: like, I get that your country didn't really get with these guys back in the day, but that's nothing to brag about! You can make up for that sad mistake! It's not like CCR was the Blur of their day.

Yeah, I find the concept of never hearing CCR pretty strange since they are such a staple, but I can totally buy that it's a US vs. UK thing, it doesn't really bother me.

Has Lex at least ever heard Ike and Tina Turner do "Proud Mary"?

a) there are worse things that britishers are provincial about (HIP-HOP) (R&B), i rail against my countrymen all the time
b) there are plenty of things that americans are totally, unashamedly provincial about, so uh physician heal thyself or sth
c) i don't even know the names of any CCR tracks
d) i've heard "proud mary" but it's one of those cultural osmosis things in that i'm not quite sure which version or when

Maybe it was this version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XRNQ2C2x0

Or possibly this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfyEpmQM7bw&feature=related

man I think nothing riles me up more re. lol Britain vs. USA than the proud provinciality of Britishes against CCR: like, I get that your country didn't really get with these guys back in the day, but that's nothing to brag about! You can make up for that sad mistake! It's not like CCR was the Blur of their day.

Eh, well, you're wrong there. CCR were pretty popular in the UK "back in the day", but their popularity hasn't persisted, but that's hardly unusual. Also we don't have Classic Rock stations or anything like that over here, I wouldn't expect to hear Deep Purple or 10cc or whatever much in the UK either