Rolling Metal Thread 2010

Only the label could give you the actual answers because none of the methods for sales reporting (soundscans etc) are very accurate IMO.

But you can bet it's thousands and not tens of thousands.

Thanks Nate!

Still, that just seems so incredibly low! I guess I just automatically assume that when people are praising a record on ILM and I see a positive review in a big name place or a positive mention on some decent blogs or whatever that the record is "big," but it's only big in the context of a relatively small community.

Nate how many albums does your band sell?

I remember years ago reading or hearing somewhere that Sick Of It All considered it 'making it big' when one of their major label records sold 20,000 worldwide.

Speaking of metal sales on smaller labels, what's the royalty return for artists like? I'm just gonna assume right off the bat they make the bulk of their dough from touring/merch/day jobs. Do metal labels work on a similar profit split model to the likes of Touch and Go et al?

there is a band playing in my basement right now and i swear they sound like a cross between rush and neurosis. very cool! genesis climber. from california.

That must be novel -- I don't imagine they get to play in many basements in California.

listening to black breath heavy breathing, one of few metal albums i've bought this year. love it to death, though it ain't a patch on their live show. not an ilm favorite i guess?

Oh, it is, at least with me. I've been raving about that band for some time now.

yeah, i searched kinda quickly. found more complaining abt the vocals than drooling enthusiasm. :(

i usually don't like the hoarse hc/screamo thing much, but love the total effect on heavy breathing.

Also great to see Solar Anus mentioned here.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:23 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

"Nate how many albums does your band sell?"

Our last album is out of print and our next one isn't out yet. ;)

So basically that means we've been selling NONE. We don't even have shirts right now. I guess we're putting all our effort into the music. Merch is on my list of "things to do" though :)

I really like Black Breath as well FWIW.

ok since a few people on Mordy's Metal Listening Club - New Albums Every Monday (see link for the reason for this poll)
asked this particular discussion to be moved to here

After aldo's picks we decided to have an ILM poll on worst 90s albums made by established metal bands, Alan N nominated shitloads and adrien chipped in + there's aldos 3 original picks from the club here is what we have so far:

Candlemass - Chapter VI
Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption (1990)
Iron Maiden -No Prayer for the Dying (1990)
Iron Maiden - The X Factor (1995)
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI (1998)
Metallica - Load (1996)
Metallica - ReLoad (1997)
Anthrax - Stomp 442 (1995)
Anthrax - Volume 8: The Threat Is Real (1998)
Slayer - Divine Intervention (1994)
Slayer - Undisputed Attitude (1996)
Slayer - Diabolus in Musica (1998)
Danzig - Blackacidevil (1996)
Danzig - Satan's Child (1999)
Judas Priest - Jugulator
Motley Crue - Mötley Crüe (1994)
Motley Crue - Generation Swine (1997)
Testament - Demonic
Skid Row - Subhuman Race
Megadeth - Cryptic Writings (1997)
Megadeth - Risk (1999)

What else should be added? 90s albums by established metal bands only.
Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill (1996)? That one was pretty much unlistenable right?
If we need 2 polls then fair enough.

I forget who it was here who turned me on to Mar de Grises way back when, but I'm forever thankful, and their new album (out in september on Season of Mist), is excellent. The kind of classy Opeth/Katatonia combination that made Draining the Waterheart such a revelation, but with plenty of improvements.

It was probably scott

They've been writing me about US booking for years. I like them.

So any 90s bad albums by established metal bands to be added to the list?

man anybody who likes metallic crust (or crusty metal, I don't know) - midtempo metal with thrashy breaks from the mid-nineties & plenty of "give the bassist a two-bar solo here" moments played by kids just looking to blow snot rockets needs to cop this Foul Stench discography CD. it has been amusing, entertaining, and rocking me for a month now. (it came it 2008 but I just took a chance on it with a big buy-three-get-one-free deal from goregiastic.) pretty trad solos a lot of the time, given the musical context - I don't know, I view these guys as a less grindy precursor to Foetopsy, and it's no secret how I feel about Foetopsy. how do you know if this is a band you might like? gentlemen: the track listing.

1. Jiz Mark
2. Call Me Evil
3. Creamator
4. So Fucking High
5. Foul Stench
6. Pinch A Loaf
7. Donor
8. Stone
9. Infected
10. The Funk
11. I Like Puss
12. Cock-Pit
13. Dill Pickle
14. Could It Be (She's Got a Cock)
15. Filth
16. Fuck the Life
17. Dethroned Emperor (Celtic Frost Cover)
18. You Are Nasty
19. Police State
20. You Want Me
21. We're Crazy
22. Black Death
23. Moshing Mother Fuckers
24. Shit Hole
25. Big Ass Boot
26. Let's Get Fucked Up
27. Fist Fucking

So fucking good.

personal fave right now is "so fucking high," which begins: "I/would/die/to be high"

in 2007, eleven years after the recordings collected on The Beginning, Foul Stench made an album that indicated where they were at now. I have not heard the album, but I feel its track listing is worth noting -- a band unafraid of growth!

1. Be Gone
2. Fake
3. Leech
4. Pack A Bowl
5. Lost
6. Damn Nation
7. Skull Fukd
8. Asshole
9. Singing About Pussy

There's something to be said for single-mindedness. I don't know what it is, but somebody here probably does.

I've been pretty busy wallowing in the Cemetery Rapist discography lately, but I might be willing to give those guys a shot.

very cool! genesis climber. from california.

― scott seward, Monday, July 5, 2010 9:29 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

dude theyre playing at my house soon!

1. Jiz Mark
2. Call Me Evil
3. Creamator
4. So Fucking High
5. Foul Stench
6. Pinch A Loaf
7. Donor
8. Stone
9. Infected
10. The Funk
11. I Like Puss
12. Cock-Pit
13. Dill Pickle
14. Could It Be (She's Got a Cock)
15. Filth
16. Fuck the Life
17. Dethroned Emperor (Celtic Frost Cover)
18. You Are Nasty
19. Police State
20. You Want Me
21. We're Crazy
22. Black Death
23. Moshing Mother Fuckers
24. Shit Hole
25. Big Ass Boot
26. Let's Get Fucked Up
27. Fist Fucking

So fucking good.

― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, July 6, 2010 3:44 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

voted for You Are Nasty

Anyone heard the new Sahg album? I'm halfway through it and pretty taken so far by its Dio-meets-Soundgarden-meets-NWOBHM grandstanding

yeah this is great, you can probly disregard the Soundgarden mention aside from like one or two tracks maybe but I like this a whole lot. In fact I need to hear the whole Grand Magus new one just to have this year's obvious point of comparison at hand

Genesis Climber made me curious since it's an obscure Robotech reference. Found their website. It's fun.

Too bad they played Portland weeks ago not too far from my house.

I didn't know the new Sahg was out there already. Must hear it.

Today on MSN: Is it ever too hot to listen to metal?

Noone got anything to add to the list then? cuz I may as well do the poll now. So no complaining over what has been missed.

Every '90s Metallica album. Add them all.

ban ilxor

their 00s output will all be nominated in the follow up poll. Infact it will probably just be metallica albums in it..

Worst 90s Albums By Established Metal Acts

ZOROASTER, BLACK TUSK Empty Bottle, 7/6

I hated to miss this last night, but had to reserve my energy for 3 hrs of Rush tonight, heh. Anyone go? Sahg!

did we discuss this yet? it's a concordance of stats for metal-archives.com (a generally fantastic site imo) -- what visitors look at broken down by genre & what country the site's users are from -- stats people, you may get a big kick out of this -- I'm not even a stats guy but it's a really interesting chart to look at

built by our own glenn iirc

oh man is that right? we probably had this discussion already but I'm on pain meds lol

Man, that heated Oberst discussion in the Wavves thread must really be gettin' to ya, huh?

Drugs are not the answer... :'(

Yup, Glenn posted it in here a week or 2 ago.

Yup, "discussion" (not much actually) is here:

Rolling Metal Thread 2010

lol ilxor no these are legit for legit physical stuff on which I won't dwell further than to say if my coherence dips below its already low baseline now the rolling metal thread knows why

Will know there's something up smithy when you start a poll thread ;)

Or post here Worst 90s Albums By Established Metal Acts ;)

now playing, btw, Helvet in Musta Peto, a comp from last year that is seriously among the best metal compilation albums I have ever owned - I got it from Bestial Burst during my "holy shit Bestial Burst is the best label out there" frenzy last year; it's such a lovingly curated comp, flows so well, gives several different looks that flow together nicely, and is kinda my #1 exhibit for black metal that's both reaching into new places & remaining true to the genre - I know the term "true" is loaded but if you run across it have a listen and you'll see what I mean. The Saturnian Mist track is especially fuckin hot

and the Ride for Revenge track, which is really, really long, like a mini-album within the album (it has three distinct parts, it's like a black metal take on those stitch-several-songs-into-one side-long things Genesis used to do)

for ksh
http://www.opinz.com/the-worst-albums-of-all-time-metallica-st-anger-2003/

your worst nightmare is happening. John Justen is helping with an ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Tracks & ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Albums email poll.
Will start a noms thread shortly and will try keep mentions of it in here to a minimum so not to piss poll haters off. Will post the link in here once its up so your thread isn't spoiled. But please mr & mrs poll haters, please even consider nominating stuff you would like to see in it! In return i wont bug you!
:)

i'm into ride for revenge. really dug the track "no saviour no return" off their last one. think I posted on here about it, even.

comp sounds cool, thanks.

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