Rolling Metal Thread 2010

haha

I actually like that Mantic Ritual record from last year, but only 'cos it sounds like the thrashy stuff I listened to in 1986 while I destroying my body trying to learn skateboard tricks. What else is new that sounds like that?

Why not just make it a discussion thread instead of another poll? u_u

HI DERE

Rolling Metal Thread 2010

hosting a discussion like that itt is just asking for a huge derail that would inevitably crowd out all discussion of new and upcoming records. needs to be hosted elsewhere imo

like in a poll?

hah

well theres no poll if johnny wont do it. I dont think anyone else will volunteer.

What kind of software does Glenn use? I mean, if it's largely automated, pretty much anyone could do it. All I do is plug people's votes into Excel and do the math in my head as I go along (which is probably only about 92% reliable).

If we're gonna do this poll, why don't we at least wait until the current albums/tracks thing is a wrap?

it would be ilxor. Noms would be open for 3 weeks so it will be over long before voting started nevermind results

johnny check your email

3 weeks for noms 3 weeks for voting means its 6 weeks before the tabulator has to do anything, i do the rest.

guys can you start the thread so you can be talking about the poll on the thread I don't check to see if people are saying interesting things about heavy metal

Saw the link. Looks complicated. :/

and i know johnny will like the idea of best metal trax as well as albums...

pollhaters like smithy dont need to vote but they can write about stuff they like when it charts. I thought last years 2009 poll thread had some good discussion.

ok smithy

if johnny doesnt agree then i guess theres no poll so it wont be discussed further

Yeah, I'm out. For now. I might be ready to do one again in a few months (6 weeks isn't long enough away).

no worries.
so smithy did you check out the free biggus diccus download?

naw doesn't seem like my kinda thing

me neither but george on the hard rock thread said it was quite good

and yes i know that wont help you change your mind

delayed posting

The new Dawnbringer album (feat. Nachtmystium secret weapon Chris Black) is so fucking good, it's ridiculous. Traditional metal album of the year, by a mile.

Bruni has been raving to me about it. I need to hear that.

The new Zoroaster is fucking awesome. What other groups sound like this? Sort of heavy psych influenced, slightly shoey biker metal? I guess there's a crossover between some stoner bands like Kyuss and other Savanah bands and some doomers like Goat Snake. It's weird listening to a 'metal' group and thinking what does this remind me of? Oh yeah, Ride.

Titan are readying a new album for Relapse as well.

I was wondering if Titan was actually gonna sign with Relapse. I met one of those dudes at the High on Fire/Priestess/Bison show and he was telling me about the new album - which was awesome news, because I loved the debut - but the Relapse deal was a vague possibility at that point.

Yeah, I love that four track album from a few years back.

Got this yesterday: Relapse Records is proud to announce the signing of Brooklyn, NY’s TITAN.

TITAN, who have previously released material on Paradigms and Tee Pee Records, have recently completed work on a brand new full-length album titled Sweet Dreams. Sweet Dreams was recorded at Translator Audio in Brooklyn with engineer Brendan Tobin (MADE OUT OF BABIES, RED SPAROWES). An October 12th release date has been set and the album is available for pre-order at this location.

TITAN’s Josh Anzano commented on the new album; “"Sweet Dreams" has been the culmination of major urges welling up inside all of us to be a bit faster, a bit harder, a bit trippier and generally more aggro in our approach to writing, jamming out, and conceptualizing the songs and record as a whole. It's a lot tighter, but it's also a lot looser. We recorded with Brendan Tobin at his killer 'Translator Audio' studio in Brooklyn and we're pretty fucking stoked on the final results, and we hope that you are too!”

TITAN has confirmed an August 22nd New York show at Santos Party House, performing alongside SAVIOURS, PRIESTESS, HAMSOKEN, and more. Additional TITAN dates will be announced shortly.

Stay tuned to www.RELAPSE.com for forthcoming TITAN news / album release information. Additional information will be made available via TITAN MySpace page MySpace.com/Titanaut.

yeah i got that email from Relapse too.

From the Metal Listening Club thread:

id be very surprised if black metal was outselling death metal in the usa

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:36 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wonder who the biggest selling "doom" band in the US is and how much they sell? about 5k max?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:40 PM (1 week ago)

Does anyone have any idea what kind of numbers smaller metal records do? Like what could something like, say, the new Ludicra expect to pull off?

Only the label could give you the actual answers because none of the methods for sales reporting (soundscans etc) are very accurate IMO.

But you can bet it's thousands and not tens of thousands.

Thanks Nate!

Still, that just seems so incredibly low! I guess I just automatically assume that when people are praising a record on ILM and I see a positive review in a big name place or a positive mention on some decent blogs or whatever that the record is "big," but it's only big in the context of a relatively small community.

Nate how many albums does your band sell?

I remember years ago reading or hearing somewhere that Sick Of It All considered it 'making it big' when one of their major label records sold 20,000 worldwide.

Speaking of metal sales on smaller labels, what's the royalty return for artists like? I'm just gonna assume right off the bat they make the bulk of their dough from touring/merch/day jobs. Do metal labels work on a similar profit split model to the likes of Touch and Go et al?

there is a band playing in my basement right now and i swear they sound like a cross between rush and neurosis. very cool! genesis climber. from california.

That must be novel -- I don't imagine they get to play in many basements in California.

listening to black breath heavy breathing, one of few metal albums i've bought this year. love it to death, though it ain't a patch on their live show. not an ilm favorite i guess?

Oh, it is, at least with me. I've been raving about that band for some time now.

yeah, i searched kinda quickly. found more complaining abt the vocals than drooling enthusiasm. :(

i usually don't like the hoarse hc/screamo thing much, but love the total effect on heavy breathing.

Also great to see Solar Anus mentioned here.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:23 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

"Nate how many albums does your band sell?"

Our last album is out of print and our next one isn't out yet. ;)

So basically that means we've been selling NONE. We don't even have shirts right now. I guess we're putting all our effort into the music. Merch is on my list of "things to do" though :)

I really like Black Breath as well FWIW.

ok since a few people on Mordy's Metal Listening Club - New Albums Every Monday (see link for the reason for this poll)
asked this particular discussion to be moved to here

After aldo's picks we decided to have an ILM poll on worst 90s albums made by established metal bands, Alan N nominated shitloads and adrien chipped in + there's aldos 3 original picks from the club here is what we have so far:

Candlemass - Chapter VI
Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption (1990)
Iron Maiden -No Prayer for the Dying (1990)
Iron Maiden - The X Factor (1995)
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI (1998)
Metallica - Load (1996)
Metallica - ReLoad (1997)
Anthrax - Stomp 442 (1995)
Anthrax - Volume 8: The Threat Is Real (1998)
Slayer - Divine Intervention (1994)
Slayer - Undisputed Attitude (1996)
Slayer - Diabolus in Musica (1998)
Danzig - Blackacidevil (1996)
Danzig - Satan's Child (1999)
Judas Priest - Jugulator
Motley Crue - Mötley Crüe (1994)
Motley Crue - Generation Swine (1997)
Testament - Demonic
Skid Row - Subhuman Race
Megadeth - Cryptic Writings (1997)
Megadeth - Risk (1999)

What else should be added? 90s albums by established metal bands only.
Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill (1996)? That one was pretty much unlistenable right?
If we need 2 polls then fair enough.

I forget who it was here who turned me on to Mar de Grises way back when, but I'm forever thankful, and their new album (out in september on Season of Mist), is excellent. The kind of classy Opeth/Katatonia combination that made Draining the Waterheart such a revelation, but with plenty of improvements.

It was probably scott

They've been writing me about US booking for years. I like them.

So any 90s bad albums by established metal bands to be added to the list?

man anybody who likes metallic crust (or crusty metal, I don't know) - midtempo metal with thrashy breaks from the mid-nineties & plenty of "give the bassist a two-bar solo here" moments played by kids just looking to blow snot rockets needs to cop this Foul Stench discography CD. it has been amusing, entertaining, and rocking me for a month now. (it came it 2008 but I just took a chance on it with a big buy-three-get-one-free deal from goregiastic.) pretty trad solos a lot of the time, given the musical context - I don't know, I view these guys as a less grindy precursor to Foetopsy, and it's no secret how I feel about Foetopsy. how do you know if this is a band you might like? gentlemen: the track listing.

1. Jiz Mark
2. Call Me Evil
3. Creamator
4. So Fucking High
5. Foul Stench
6. Pinch A Loaf
7. Donor
8. Stone
9. Infected
10. The Funk
11. I Like Puss
12. Cock-Pit
13. Dill Pickle
14. Could It Be (She's Got a Cock)
15. Filth
16. Fuck the Life
17. Dethroned Emperor (Celtic Frost Cover)
18. You Are Nasty
19. Police State
20. You Want Me
21. We're Crazy
22. Black Death
23. Moshing Mother Fuckers
24. Shit Hole
25. Big Ass Boot
26. Let's Get Fucked Up
27. Fist Fucking

So fucking good.

personal fave right now is "so fucking high," which begins: "I/would/die/to be high"

in 2007, eleven years after the recordings collected on The Beginning, Foul Stench made an album that indicated where they were at now. I have not heard the album, but I feel its track listing is worth noting -- a band unafraid of growth!

1. Be Gone
2. Fake
3. Leech
4. Pack A Bowl
5. Lost
6. Damn Nation
7. Skull Fukd
8. Asshole
9. Singing About Pussy

There's something to be said for single-mindedness. I don't know what it is, but somebody here probably does.

I've been pretty busy wallowing in the Cemetery Rapist discography lately, but I might be willing to give those guys a shot.