ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

i know about the legendary K.O.

well t-pain has by far the best verse

ban ilxor of course

Ok, sorry about how that came across. As some dude points out (xp) I was referring to the post-Katrina takeoff of Golddigga which I remember thinking at the time was powerful (from my desk in England), but obviously it brings in issues that make "better" in an ILM poll context pretty irrelevant.

52. RADIOHEAD "Reckoner" (2007) [280 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQD-N6UI

the thing with the legendary k.o. is that kanye saying "george bush doesn't care about black people" was already great, and "gold digger" was already great, and what on earth did they think they could add to either? it was so lame.

also lame: radiohead. ~HATE THIS BAND~~

really went off Radiohead after 2001 until that song. Quality stuff.

i intentionally left radiohead out of my album ballot to make room for less popular stuff but i still voted for that song, probably the best thing they've done in the past decade

some loser called The Legendary K.O. did a Pazz & Jop-baiting version of "Gold Digger" called "George Bush Don't Like Black People"

Cosign on the George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People > Gold Digger, but I also love the rock-crit self-aggrandizement here. "That dude only made that song for the criticsz!"

it wasn't a statement on the intent of the song, just that only corny critics gave a fuck about it

Ok, but that's not what you actually said.

yeah i'm probably playing a bit loose w/ language here but when i call something critic bait or P&J bait i generally am talking about its critical reception and am not second-guessing what the artist might've been thinking, because that's kind of impossible

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" (which I voted for) was one of those songs that I liked on its own, but gained appreciation for when I played it for a bunch of people in a car and they laughed at every punch line. Great litmus test for a song's actual effectiveness.

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

Dude, really? What were we *just* talking about?

51. PHOENIX "Lisztomania" (2009) [281 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8e_n3qxg60

"georgia bush" kicks the shit out of the legendary k.o. song

Dude, really? What were we *just* talking about?

― Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, July 2, 2010 12:51 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

dyking iirc

lizstomania's chorus has a weird vocal line for a pop song, it never resolves, just goes around in circles until he chops it off and leaves you hanging

i know about the legendary K.O.

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 12:35 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was hoping you didn't because calling someone racist just because they called a song "Golddigga" instead of "Gold Digger" is fucking insane

hoes dyking, to be precise

xps

http://www.jimandellen.org/ellen/Bert&Mary.jpg

yeah i'm probably playing a bit loose w/ language here but when i call something critic bait or P&J bait i generally am talking about its critical reception and am not second-guessing what the artist might've been thinking, because that's kind of impossible

Of course you can! And in this particular example, it's pretty obvious that the guy (guys?) were pretty simply using the juxtoposition between Kanye's political moment and his hit song to make a funny/true statement about Katrina. Pretty simple, pretty effective.

And not-really a traditional critic-baiting song, much more of a populist one. Not really still saying that you're implying that it was, just that it's not difficult to get a clear idea of what an artist's intentions are.

are you calling mary poppins a ho, noodle vague

And now back to dyking.

i voted for lisztomania but am having trouble thinking of much to say about it.

And not-really a traditional critic-baiting song, much more of a populist one

in terms of populism don't you think "gold digger" is, you know, slightly ahead of the other one

So we're at the halfway point... anyone want to grade 51-100? I'd give it an "A", except for the presence of "Fireworks" which drops it to an "A-".

lisztomania is a classic song but i still totally prefer stuff from 'it's never been like that'

Alls I'm saying is that Mary Poppins is popular with an awful lot of chimney sweeps.

i give it a C because i always hate on tracks lists that are full of non-hits that are on albums that will surely make the counterpart list. although obviously you guys did a great job and i love watching the list unfold.

That's why this is called a TRACKS list and not a SINGLES list, der.

If we all made the effort to check how song titles are spelled the world would be a better place.

"georgia bush" kicks the shit out of the legendary k.o. song

That may be true.

in terms of populism don't you think "gold digger" is, you know, slightly ahead of the other one

Oh, absolutely. Personally, I just didn't like "Gold Digger" until after I heard "George Bush..." I know I'm waaay in the minority on that one.

I mean, why would you deprive a good track the opportunity to appreciated on its own? The album it comes from might not be any good.

almost all of these songs have been hits of some sort

maybe i'm forgetting some tho

alright maybe not

but almost all have been singles at least

only 2 of my votes have shown up so far, but i love the majority of 51-100. a ton of "b-b-but i voted for the album" trax. a few stinkers that prevent this being an A. obv have really enjoyed it so far, so B+ or A- i guess.

i mean i probably should have voted for "love story", "fancy" etc...but i definitely used "voted for the album" as a means of whittling down by trax ballot. cuz i HAD to.

Pretty much everything today is well-known enough that I've heard them before.

50. JUSTICE "D.A.N.C.E." (2007) [282.5 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49esza4eiK4

more than half of the songs so far are songs i've only heard of (as in I might know of the act, but not the song specifically) on ILM, or maybe glancing at Pitchfork or a couple other blogs maintained by ILM people.

I voted for this, mainly because I loved it at the time.

Also, TRIANGLE!

...i've only heard of ...on ILM ...or a couple other blogs maintained by ILM people

That's why this is the ILM poll and not the Guardian poll or Washington Post poll.

I can't believe this is the Washington Post.

i kind of assumed that everything nominated was a single in some capacity, i was just working from the nom list on this one

so if i voted for any album tracks i apologize

ugh i thought people would've been over justice by now, sp wrong that this placed ahead of an actual dance classic like "rej"

there's not much in music that i strongly dislike, but the overcompressed production on the justice album is up there

having experienced both in the right context (club dancefloor) and in the right ~state of mind~ i think the empirical evidence suggests that "rej" leads to total hands-in-the-air ecstatic moments while "d.a.n.c.e." leads to grimacing and maybe leaving the club

49. MARIAH CAREY "We Belong Together" (2005) [283 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0habxsuXW4g