Rolling Metal Thread 2010

I'll give it a shot, you can't beat free. Thanks Herm

I have no idea on the quality of it, so please report back!

Glenn doesn't have the time to do a poll just now (originally we were going to do an ILM decade poll BUT theres been so many decade polls so fuck that) but there has never been an ILM Metal/Hard Rock poll before.
I was thinking of a Best Metal/Hard Rock Songs Poll and a Best Metal Hard Rock Albums Poll so I'd be willing to do that IF someone else can do the number crunching. Glenn has kindly provided the software he uses to do all the polls, so if anyone can do it then please volunteer.

Glenn can answer any questions on the software etc.

Wish I had time/energy to run the software myself. That said, I'd love to participate in the poll if anyone else can help.

I really don't have it in me to tabulate another poll right now. It's a really time/life-consuming process.

Why not just make it a discussion thread instead of another poll? u_u

love you for that ksh

Yeah I'm with these guys. Polls are meaningless. They are just bell curves of popular taste. That's the opposite of learning.

I'd love a thread like that, as long as I don't get laughed out of it for repping for hair metal.

dude point me at the people who laugh at you for repping for hair metal, and I will kill those people with my bare hands

and also eat their hearts in front of their families

Okay cool. It's just that every time I drop in on a metal thread, everyone's talking about this heavy, growly stuff from recent years that I know NOTHING about.

yeah well we're gonna keep right on talking about that stuff 'cause it kicks ass, don't get me wrong

haha

I actually like that Mantic Ritual record from last year, but only 'cos it sounds like the thrashy stuff I listened to in 1986 while I destroying my body trying to learn skateboard tricks. What else is new that sounds like that?

Why not just make it a discussion thread instead of another poll? u_u

HI DERE

Rolling Metal Thread 2010

hosting a discussion like that itt is just asking for a huge derail that would inevitably crowd out all discussion of new and upcoming records. needs to be hosted elsewhere imo

like in a poll?

hah

well theres no poll if johnny wont do it. I dont think anyone else will volunteer.

What kind of software does Glenn use? I mean, if it's largely automated, pretty much anyone could do it. All I do is plug people's votes into Excel and do the math in my head as I go along (which is probably only about 92% reliable).

If we're gonna do this poll, why don't we at least wait until the current albums/tracks thing is a wrap?

it would be ilxor. Noms would be open for 3 weeks so it will be over long before voting started nevermind results

johnny check your email

3 weeks for noms 3 weeks for voting means its 6 weeks before the tabulator has to do anything, i do the rest.

guys can you start the thread so you can be talking about the poll on the thread I don't check to see if people are saying interesting things about heavy metal

Saw the link. Looks complicated. :/

and i know johnny will like the idea of best metal trax as well as albums...

pollhaters like smithy dont need to vote but they can write about stuff they like when it charts. I thought last years 2009 poll thread had some good discussion.

ok smithy

if johnny doesnt agree then i guess theres no poll so it wont be discussed further

Yeah, I'm out. For now. I might be ready to do one again in a few months (6 weeks isn't long enough away).

no worries.
so smithy did you check out the free biggus diccus download?

naw doesn't seem like my kinda thing

me neither but george on the hard rock thread said it was quite good

and yes i know that wont help you change your mind

delayed posting

The new Dawnbringer album (feat. Nachtmystium secret weapon Chris Black) is so fucking good, it's ridiculous. Traditional metal album of the year, by a mile.

Bruni has been raving to me about it. I need to hear that.

The new Zoroaster is fucking awesome. What other groups sound like this? Sort of heavy psych influenced, slightly shoey biker metal? I guess there's a crossover between some stoner bands like Kyuss and other Savanah bands and some doomers like Goat Snake. It's weird listening to a 'metal' group and thinking what does this remind me of? Oh yeah, Ride.

Titan are readying a new album for Relapse as well.

I was wondering if Titan was actually gonna sign with Relapse. I met one of those dudes at the High on Fire/Priestess/Bison show and he was telling me about the new album - which was awesome news, because I loved the debut - but the Relapse deal was a vague possibility at that point.

Yeah, I love that four track album from a few years back.

Got this yesterday: Relapse Records is proud to announce the signing of Brooklyn, NY’s TITAN.

TITAN, who have previously released material on Paradigms and Tee Pee Records, have recently completed work on a brand new full-length album titled Sweet Dreams. Sweet Dreams was recorded at Translator Audio in Brooklyn with engineer Brendan Tobin (MADE OUT OF BABIES, RED SPAROWES). An October 12th release date has been set and the album is available for pre-order at this location.

TITAN’s Josh Anzano commented on the new album; “"Sweet Dreams" has been the culmination of major urges welling up inside all of us to be a bit faster, a bit harder, a bit trippier and generally more aggro in our approach to writing, jamming out, and conceptualizing the songs and record as a whole. It's a lot tighter, but it's also a lot looser. We recorded with Brendan Tobin at his killer 'Translator Audio' studio in Brooklyn and we're pretty fucking stoked on the final results, and we hope that you are too!”

TITAN has confirmed an August 22nd New York show at Santos Party House, performing alongside SAVIOURS, PRIESTESS, HAMSOKEN, and more. Additional TITAN dates will be announced shortly.

Stay tuned to www.RELAPSE.com for forthcoming TITAN news / album release information. Additional information will be made available via TITAN MySpace page MySpace.com/Titanaut.

yeah i got that email from Relapse too.

From the Metal Listening Club thread:

id be very surprised if black metal was outselling death metal in the usa

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:36 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wonder who the biggest selling "doom" band in the US is and how much they sell? about 5k max?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:40 PM (1 week ago)

Does anyone have any idea what kind of numbers smaller metal records do? Like what could something like, say, the new Ludicra expect to pull off?

Only the label could give you the actual answers because none of the methods for sales reporting (soundscans etc) are very accurate IMO.

But you can bet it's thousands and not tens of thousands.

Thanks Nate!

Still, that just seems so incredibly low! I guess I just automatically assume that when people are praising a record on ILM and I see a positive review in a big name place or a positive mention on some decent blogs or whatever that the record is "big," but it's only big in the context of a relatively small community.

Nate how many albums does your band sell?

I remember years ago reading or hearing somewhere that Sick Of It All considered it 'making it big' when one of their major label records sold 20,000 worldwide.

Speaking of metal sales on smaller labels, what's the royalty return for artists like? I'm just gonna assume right off the bat they make the bulk of their dough from touring/merch/day jobs. Do metal labels work on a similar profit split model to the likes of Touch and Go et al?

there is a band playing in my basement right now and i swear they sound like a cross between rush and neurosis. very cool! genesis climber. from california.

That must be novel -- I don't imagine they get to play in many basements in California.

listening to black breath heavy breathing, one of few metal albums i've bought this year. love it to death, though it ain't a patch on their live show. not an ilm favorite i guess?

Oh, it is, at least with me. I've been raving about that band for some time now.

yeah, i searched kinda quickly. found more complaining abt the vocals than drooling enthusiasm. :(

i usually don't like the hoarse hc/screamo thing much, but love the total effect on heavy breathing.

Also great to see Solar Anus mentioned here.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:23 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark