ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

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When the redheaded best friend, Abigail, is disappointed by a boy, Swift drops back, underplaying a sorrow that probably felt like surgery without anesthesia: “Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind, and we both cried.” In weaker hands, this song would be littered with broken hearts; Swift’s boy just “changed his mind.”

Right, because I've never heard that euphemism for breaking up used before. Ever. What insight, what genius.

emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (sixteen years ago)

it is a pretty misogynistic paragraph now that i re-read it

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (sixteen years ago)

Er, what?

emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

taylor swift is like the polar opposite of GAPDY on the ilm lovefest spectrum, seems like you can't enjoy both without enjoying absolutely everything else too

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (sixteen years ago)

never really got into "Oh," to me it's a dope hi-hat pattern in search of a good tempo/melody/synth/vocal/etc.

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (sixteen years ago)

54. STUDIO "Out There" (2006) [269.5 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkvW5v2tVQ

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

classic there

today's run has been really great

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

dog latin, the best "explanations of what makes taylor swift special" are these singles jukebox reviews of "you belong with me" - http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=596 - and this sasha frere-jones profile of her (scroll down to where he starts discussing "our song') - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2008/11/10/081110crmu_music_frerejones

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, July 2, 2010 3:33 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Just don't hear it with the one just posted here though, and to a lesser extent "Our Song". "YBWM" is much more complex musically than either of those, both in the songwriting and production. The buildup to the chorus is great and there are lots of effective, unexpected chords and instrumental choices. "Our Song" especially feels thrown-off, I-ii-IV-V wham bam thank you ma'am with almost no rhythmic interest until the very end of the chorus. "Love Story" is kind of half hearted and weak all the way through. IMHO.

skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars.

A lot of us would also really dislike the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Myself included.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (sixteen years ago)

'Oh' is good, just in a very average way

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to illustrate this point

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

you look like David Bowie
but you have nothing new to show me
babyyyyyyy
you belong with me

ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_D37Gap6vA

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:00 (sixteen years ago)

Out There is 100% solid gold and everything from the soppy synth chords midway through is 150% solid gold. Amazing piece of music, every section is better than the one before.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:01 (sixteen years ago)

Never heard this before, really good stuff.

skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:02 (sixteen years ago)

"walking the streets with you and those skinny jeans"

ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

"he wears polos i wear t-shirts"

YOU ARE ALL WEARING POLOS IN THAT PICTURE

I want to thank my psychiatrist (billy), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

had I voted I would probably have gone for "Life's A Beach" over "Out There" but it's a toss-up, really. Album would have definitely been top 2 for me though.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

53. R. KELLY ft. T.I. & T-PAIN "I'm a Flirt" (2007) [275.5 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPr4F8dplFg

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

niiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ooooooo 28's

gman59, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

r. kelly's verses in "i'm a flirt" have always been my least favorite by a wide margin

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

the soca remix of "i'm a flirt" with lady saw is classic 4eva

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

(xp)

Yay, my second vote! (Studio was my #5)

Everything so far today is pretty good, but Golddigga was better as George Bush Don't Like Black People.

seandalai, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

seandalia, are you intentionally trying to be a racist or?

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:27 (sixteen years ago)

some loser called The Legendary K.O. did a Pazz & Jop-baiting version of "Gold Digger" called "George Bush Don't Like Black People"

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

r. kelly's verses in "i'm a flirt" have always been my least favorite by a wide margin

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 12:18 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is insane, R.'s last verse is amazing and T.I. is easily the weak link of the song

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

"gold digga"

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

T.I. is the weak link on most tracks he's on, tbh.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

i know about the legendary K.O.

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

well t-pain has by far the best verse

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

ban ilxor of course

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

Ok, sorry about how that came across. As some dude points out (xp) I was referring to the post-Katrina takeoff of Golddigga which I remember thinking at the time was powerful (from my desk in England), but obviously it brings in issues that make "better" in an ILM poll context pretty irrelevant.

seandalai, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

52. RADIOHEAD "Reckoner" (2007) [280 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQD-N6UI

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

the thing with the legendary k.o. is that kanye saying "george bush doesn't care about black people" was already great, and "gold digger" was already great, and what on earth did they think they could add to either? it was so lame.

also lame: radiohead. ~HATE THIS BAND~~

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

really went off Radiohead after 2001 until that song. Quality stuff.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

i intentionally left radiohead out of my album ballot to make room for less popular stuff but i still voted for that song, probably the best thing they've done in the past decade

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

some loser called The Legendary K.O. did a Pazz & Jop-baiting version of "Gold Digger" called "George Bush Don't Like Black People"

Cosign on the George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People > Gold Digger, but I also love the rock-crit self-aggrandizement here. "That dude only made that song for the criticsz!"

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

it wasn't a statement on the intent of the song, just that only corny critics gave a fuck about it

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

Ok, but that's not what you actually said.

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i'm probably playing a bit loose w/ language here but when i call something critic bait or P&J bait i generally am talking about its critical reception and am not second-guessing what the artist might've been thinking, because that's kind of impossible

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" (which I voted for) was one of those songs that I liked on its own, but gained appreciation for when I played it for a bunch of people in a car and they laughed at every punch line. Great litmus test for a song's actual effectiveness.

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

Dude, really? What were we *just* talking about?

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

51. PHOENIX "Lisztomania" (2009) [281 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8e_n3qxg60

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

"georgia bush" kicks the shit out of the legendary k.o. song

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

Dude, really? What were we *just* talking about?

― Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, July 2, 2010 12:51 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

dyking iirc

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

lizstomania's chorus has a weird vocal line for a pop song, it never resolves, just goes around in circles until he chops it off and leaves you hanging

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

i know about the legendary K.O.

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 12:35 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was hoping you didn't because calling someone racist just because they called a song "Golddigga" instead of "Gold Digger" is fucking insane

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

hoes dyking, to be precise

xps

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.jimandellen.org/ellen/Bert&Mary.jpg

Don't mention de Boer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)


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