ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

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When the redheaded best friend, Abigail, is disappointed by a boy, Swift drops back, underplaying a sorrow that probably felt like surgery without anesthesia: “Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind, and we both cried.” In weaker hands, this song would be littered with broken hearts; Swift’s boy just “changed his mind.”

^^love this - love the way this motif recurs on "breathe" even more. "people are people and sometimes we change our minds/but it's killin' me to see you go after all this time" - such an awareness of how breakups happen all the time, to everyone, for the most insignificant reasons, and her pain isn't special, it's just what being human entails - but how that doesn't stop it hurting.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

lol "hollaback girl", the quintessential "so much silly fun at the time, haven't thought about listening to since" song. got a lot of affection for it.

~ain't no houellebecq girl~

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

the quintessential "so much silly fun at the time, haven't thought about listening to since" song.

Kinda like Robyn, then, eh?

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember back around the time it came out, but before I'd heard it, all my friends were punctuating just about every statement with "that shit is bananas" and I had NO IDEA what they were talking about.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

it was just weird, have a friend over to watch the tennis and we were JUST talking about michel houellebecq

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

When the redheaded best friend, Abigail, is disappointed by a boy, Swift drops back, underplaying a sorrow that probably felt like surgery without anesthesia: “Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind, and we both cried.” In weaker hands, this song would be littered with broken hearts; Swift’s boy just “changed his mind.”

Right, because I've never heard that euphemism for breaking up used before. Ever. What insight, what genius.

emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it is a pretty misogynistic paragraph now that i re-read it

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Er, what?

emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

taylor swift is like the polar opposite of GAPDY on the ilm lovefest spectrum, seems like you can't enjoy both without enjoying absolutely everything else too

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

never really got into "Oh," to me it's a dope hi-hat pattern in search of a good tempo/melody/synth/vocal/etc.

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

54. STUDIO "Out There" (2006) [269.5 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkvW5v2tVQ

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

classic there

today's run has been really great

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

dog latin, the best "explanations of what makes taylor swift special" are these singles jukebox reviews of "you belong with me" - http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=596 - and this sasha frere-jones profile of her (scroll down to where he starts discussing "our song') - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2008/11/10/081110crmu_music_frerejones

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, July 2, 2010 3:33 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Just don't hear it with the one just posted here though, and to a lesser extent "Our Song". "YBWM" is much more complex musically than either of those, both in the songwriting and production. The buildup to the chorus is great and there are lots of effective, unexpected chords and instrumental choices. "Our Song" especially feels thrown-off, I-ii-IV-V wham bam thank you ma'am with almost no rhythmic interest until the very end of the chorus. "Love Story" is kind of half hearted and weak all the way through. IMHO.

skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars.

A lot of us would also really dislike the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Myself included.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

'Oh' is good, just in a very average way

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to illustrate this point

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

you look like David Bowie
but you have nothing new to show me
babyyyyyyy
you belong with me

ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_D37Gap6vA

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Out There is 100% solid gold and everything from the soppy synth chords midway through is 150% solid gold. Amazing piece of music, every section is better than the one before.

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Never heard this before, really good stuff.

skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

"walking the streets with you and those skinny jeans"

ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

"he wears polos i wear t-shirts"

YOU ARE ALL WEARING POLOS IN THAT PICTURE

I want to thank my psychiatrist (billy), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

had I voted I would probably have gone for "Life's A Beach" over "Out There" but it's a toss-up, really. Album would have definitely been top 2 for me though.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

53. R. KELLY ft. T.I. & T-PAIN "I'm a Flirt" (2007) [275.5 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPr4F8dplFg

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

niiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ooooooo 28's

gman59, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

r. kelly's verses in "i'm a flirt" have always been my least favorite by a wide margin

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

the soca remix of "i'm a flirt" with lady saw is classic 4eva

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

(xp)

Yay, my second vote! (Studio was my #5)

Everything so far today is pretty good, but Golddigga was better as George Bush Don't Like Black People.

seandalai, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

seandalia, are you intentionally trying to be a racist or?

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

some loser called The Legendary K.O. did a Pazz & Jop-baiting version of "Gold Digger" called "George Bush Don't Like Black People"

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

r. kelly's verses in "i'm a flirt" have always been my least favorite by a wide margin

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 12:18 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is insane, R.'s last verse is amazing and T.I. is easily the weak link of the song

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"gold digga"

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

T.I. is the weak link on most tracks he's on, tbh.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i know about the legendary K.O.

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

well t-pain has by far the best verse

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ban ilxor of course

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, sorry about how that came across. As some dude points out (xp) I was referring to the post-Katrina takeoff of Golddigga which I remember thinking at the time was powerful (from my desk in England), but obviously it brings in issues that make "better" in an ILM poll context pretty irrelevant.

seandalai, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

52. RADIOHEAD "Reckoner" (2007) [280 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uofQD-N6UI

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing with the legendary k.o. is that kanye saying "george bush doesn't care about black people" was already great, and "gold digger" was already great, and what on earth did they think they could add to either? it was so lame.

also lame: radiohead. ~HATE THIS BAND~~

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

really went off Radiohead after 2001 until that song. Quality stuff.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i intentionally left radiohead out of my album ballot to make room for less popular stuff but i still voted for that song, probably the best thing they've done in the past decade

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

some loser called The Legendary K.O. did a Pazz & Jop-baiting version of "Gold Digger" called "George Bush Don't Like Black People"

Cosign on the George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People > Gold Digger, but I also love the rock-crit self-aggrandizement here. "That dude only made that song for the criticsz!"

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

it wasn't a statement on the intent of the song, just that only corny critics gave a fuck about it

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, but that's not what you actually said.

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm probably playing a bit loose w/ language here but when i call something critic bait or P&J bait i generally am talking about its critical reception and am not second-guessing what the artist might've been thinking, because that's kind of impossible

some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" (which I voted for) was one of those songs that I liked on its own, but gained appreciation for when I played it for a bunch of people in a car and they laughed at every punch line. Great litmus test for a song's actual effectiveness.

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf, he probably made the song for corny rock critics

Dude, really? What were we *just* talking about?

Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

51. PHOENIX "Lisztomania" (2009) [281 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8e_n3qxg60

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link


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