i can't imagine anyone not loving "oh"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
t-swift haters are the worst. "pop country trash"?!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, July 2, 2010 3:10 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'm not a Taylor Swift hater, I'm a boring canned Autotune country song hater.
― skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Then again maybe those are functionally equivalent.
there's always been something about "oh" that has kept it about an 8/9 for me and not a 10/10... i think maybe it's cuz i think the verses are much better than the hook
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Would expect Promise to make this list as well. Those two tracks are so good they make pretty much everything else she's done redundant for me.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
those two tracks are basically why ciara is the greatest pop star of the past half decade for me
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Thought that was in then
― Eljero Elia Michele (pandemic), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry wrong thread, Hangs head.
Alright, considering some of the conversation that took place between the end of yesterday and the start of today, I fear posting the next placing...but here goes...
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
56. PANDA BEAR "Bros" (2006) [262.5 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JBU9KlBJWo
is that a single edit?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Too much Taylor Swift on this thread.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I have no idea. The audio just chops off after the video fades out, so I'd guess not.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
and certainly not enough dog latin
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
xposts
/lexbait
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
By which I'm assuming you mean any is too much.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Really enjoy the Kanye and Ciara tracks. Speaking as an AC fan since Sung Tongs, "Bros" is just alright; not a patch on anything from Feels, Strawberry Jam, etc., though. "Love Story" on the other hand may well have been my #1 track of the '00s had I bothered to rank my list. It's certainly one of my most frequently played.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
For some reason I like Panda Bear a lot more than Animal Collective, but haven't listened to enough AC to pinpoint exactly why. Person Pitch is quite listenable.
― skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
in all seriousness, can someone explain me taylor's popularity on ilx? i'm not expecting to get my mind blown or anything (american teen-pop+country is going to have to do something MINDBLOWINGINGLYEXCEPTIONAL for me to begin to enjoy it), but what is it that makes her music so great?
(ps, i have given the album a fair try but really it's not for me).
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
how about you use the search function?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
oh lord dog latin please not again.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Gukbe, I don't believe I've asked this question before.
Said it before, but I still can't get into anything on Person Pitch. Too messy and repetitive and cloudy and tuneless and boring - pretty much everything people don't seem to like about AC, yet it seems to be the AC choice for people who don't like AC. Baffles me.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
dog latin, the best "explanations of what makes taylor swift special" are these singles jukebox reviews of "you belong with me" - http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=596 - and this sasha frere-jones profile of her (scroll down to where he starts discussing "our song') - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2008/11/10/081110crmu_music_frerejones
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks lex
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
all up in here
and somewhere there's a lot in here if you scroll down to the top 10 area.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry dog latin, didn't mean you specifically re: taylor swift but it seems to come up a lot elsewhere
cool, will read.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Agree that the SFJ profile is a pretty good "intro to Taylor's appeal" piece.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
almost all sfj pieces have to be, considering his audience
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
SFJ piece in a nutshell: "Swift is not an agent of revolution; she, much like Beyoncé, is a preternaturally skilled student of established values. Her precociousness isn’t about her chart success, but lies in the quality of her work, how fully she’s absorbed the lessons of her elders and how little she seems to care which radio format will eventually claim her. Change the beat and the instruments around the voice, and her songs could work anywhere."
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
55. GWEN STEFANI "Hollaback Girl" (2005) [265.5 points, 12 votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgjkth6BRRY
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
oh love story is great. but its one of the only big taylor swift singles that I didn't vote for.
also I'm really glad to see Oh on here. forgot all about that jam but I loved it when it came out.
― gman59, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
When the redheaded best friend, Abigail, is disappointed by a boy, Swift drops back, underplaying a sorrow that probably felt like surgery without anesthesia: “Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind, and we both cried.” In weaker hands, this song would be littered with broken hearts; Swift’s boy just “changed his mind.”
^^love this - love the way this motif recurs on "breathe" even more. "people are people and sometimes we change our minds/but it's killin' me to see you go after all this time" - such an awareness of how breakups happen all the time, to everyone, for the most insignificant reasons, and her pain isn't special, it's just what being human entails - but how that doesn't stop it hurting.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol "hollaback girl", the quintessential "so much silly fun at the time, haven't thought about listening to since" song. got a lot of affection for it.
~ain't no houellebecq girl~
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
the quintessential "so much silly fun at the time, haven't thought about listening to since" song.
Kinda like Robyn, then, eh?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember back around the time it came out, but before I'd heard it, all my friends were punctuating just about every statement with "that shit is bananas" and I had NO IDEA what they were talking about.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
it was just weird, have a friend over to watch the tennis and we were JUST talking about michel houellebecq
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Right, because I've never heard that euphemism for breaking up used before. Ever. What insight, what genius.
― emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
it is a pretty misogynistic paragraph now that i re-read it
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Er, what?
― emil.y, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
taylor swift is like the polar opposite of GAPDY on the ilm lovefest spectrum, seems like you can't enjoy both without enjoying absolutely everything else too
― ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
never really got into "Oh," to me it's a dope hi-hat pattern in search of a good tempo/melody/synth/vocal/etc.
― some dude, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
54. STUDIO "Out There" (2006) [269.5 points, 12 votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkvW5v2tVQ
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
classic there
today's run has been really great
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, July 2, 2010 3:33 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Just don't hear it with the one just posted here though, and to a lesser extent "Our Song". "YBWM" is much more complex musically than either of those, both in the songwriting and production. The buildup to the chorus is great and there are lots of effective, unexpected chords and instrumental choices. "Our Song" especially feels thrown-off, I-ii-IV-V wham bam thank you ma'am with almost no rhythmic interest until the very end of the chorus. "Love Story" is kind of half hearted and weak all the way through. IMHO.
― skip, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
"You Belong With Me" is quite a track and like SFJ says a lot of us would like the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars.
A lot of us would also really dislike the tune if it were played by a bunch of greasy guys with guitars. Myself included.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
'Oh' is good, just in a very average way
― blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to illustrate this point
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
you look like David Bowiebut you have nothing new to show mebabyyyyyyyyou belong with me
― ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link