ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

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last two posts squarely on the money. i wish sung tongs had got the recognition MPP got, then people could shut up about this band being terrible.

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yes. Sung Tongs was the last one I really enjoyed.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxpost yeah see thinking its awful is aok w/me! thats a valid response imo, i was mostly reacting to the tuomas/etc. approach of "gosh why did they let this guy sing when he cant? are they picking on him?" school of criticism which is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish sung tongs had got the recognition MPP got, then people could shut up about this band being terrible.

Sung Tongs got plenty of recognition in its day, but I still don't like it. In fact, I'd bet there are a lot of people like me who couldn't really find a good entry way into the band until Panda Bear released Person Pitch, and then dominated much of Merriweather Post Pavilion. I get that stuff.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, four of my votes have featured already!! Try and guess which ones they are!! (Clue: not hard)

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost to jjjusten -

yes me too - i'm not asking people to love all ac unconditionally. in fact that would suck. they've been an important band to me since sung tongs simply because they could do this "idiot savant" thing contenderizer mentioned, and have done it in enigmatic fits and starts, which kind of suits me fine. but when people slag off a band because they're not singing like mariah or celine or sam cooke or something, well that's total batshit.

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i just realised why i don't like person pitch very much, and that's because there isn't much singing on it, or at least it's kind of shoved right in the background.

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

person pitch is the worst music i have ever heard

The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

person pitch kills any AC solo work imo

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

even the stuff on MPP like "brothersport" that was an obv outgrowth of what noah did on PP

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"bros" is like... 77 theme song

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope it does well in this poll -- i had it in my top 20, didn't vote for PP tho mostly cuz i've never been able to get into "good girl/ carrots" which is like 1/3 of the album

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"bros" is like... 77 theme song

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:16 PM Bookmark

if that's the case then please uninvite me from 77

The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

done and done

BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

no not really

BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice to see Maneater has aged well - too many memories of bad student parties for me to vote for it, but it still sounds fresh and sexy.

seandalai, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry to still be talking about Rollin but as much as I love that song (it def would have been on my ballot if i voted) Wood Grain is to me the definitive Huntsville rap song of 05-09

/\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

if such a thing exists, that scene has been so good

/\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Who comprises the Huntsville scene? I was born in and grew up there, but I've been gone for a decade and a half and the only thing I remember at that time are some jam bands nobody liked (before that, however, it was the home of Sex Clark Five and Skeletal Earth). In addition to the rap coming out of Huntsville, there's also Thomas Function and Pine Hill Haints on the indie rawrk side of things.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

(I realize that's OT, but it's not like I get to talk about my hometown with any amount of pride that often.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

well since mentioned it i'll post the youtube to Wood Grain. the song is by PRGz, short for a paper route gangstaz, a group of rappers off the paper route records/z label. if you want to go further G-Side's Huntsville International mixtape is pretty incredible and the blog southern hospitality is always posting new stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZs8OZpmJq8

/\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

There's also this : http://thehuntsvillian.com/ : which is run by the nice people at Vertical House records (a great shop in Lowe Mill).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I posted this link upthread, but there's some discussion of various huntsville rap here (as well as on rolling rap threads): rollin rollin rollin we aint slept in weeks

The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

thx

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

totally essential is Jackie's own "Diamonds and Cadillacs"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0cDokG3URM

The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Damn, that's great!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

not surprised Ilxor's First Ghostface he rates on par with supreme clientele

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, a while back matos and i were talking about back to black and he was like "the thing about it that no one ever says is that it's one of the best singer-songwriter albums EVER", which i am inclined to agree with

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was really critically underrated, its a great album -- in my world of young ppl it was mostly really, really popular w/ girls (ero underrated by dudes for some reason -- not 'authentic' enough??) plus she kinda had style icon status going til she burned out ... basically

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

that record is also 100x better than anything jamie lidell ever did

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

totally essential is Jackie's own "Diamonds and Cadillacs"

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:20 PM (1 hour ago)

inexplicably, this was left off of the nominations list - voted for it anyway. just a perfect rap song, and i prefer it to "rollin", which i also love

youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

deej did you seriously just call the Winehouse album 'critically underrated'? i've barely even SEEN a negative review of that record wtf.

ripe dink (some dude), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it pwnd pazz & jop too

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the phrase in my world of young ppl is really cracking me up too -- would make a good title for deej's memoirs

ripe dink (some dude), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

hahah

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

*starts kickstarter page*

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

deej did you seriously just call the Winehouse album 'critically underrated'? i've barely even SEEN a negative review of that record wtf.

― ripe dink (some dude), Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:50 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idk 6.4 in pitchfork, did it even rank in their year end list that year

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

so you think the-dream is critically underrated then?

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

p4k has had a weird relationship w/ wino

The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

w/ r&b music

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

the-dream WAS critically underrated, until rolling stone gave love v money a 4.5 star review

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

wow "rej" is great

whenever i curiously creep into the ilm dance threads i always seem to click on the tracks i don't like and miss out on the ones i do/would like such as this one

ciderpress, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

regardless, i meant more critically underrated around these parts ... who here is voting for amy winehouse albums?

in the critical world we're a part of it def was

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

back to black was my #3 :D

The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

w/ r&b music

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:05 PM Bookmark

eh, although winehouse is r&b obv, there tends to be this phenomenon of otherwise r&b-ignorant outlets giving blanket coverage of (usually british, usually white) retro-soul types, which to their credit, I guess, p4k hasn't fallen into, but that doesn't mean that when something great comes from that scene, they shouldn't acknowledge it

The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing was, winehouse resonated for, like, personality reasons -- its a very 'authentically R&B' (kill me) way to hit people but like ... she seemed like a human being, not a joss stone generic "im really into the authentic stuff" boring derivative crap ... like, just the way she used modern slang & seemed like it was her singing instead of some channeling of the past was what made her worthwhile imo

i used to work w/ all these R&B fans & they were totally into her

blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 2 July 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, otm. i always felt like the use of themes and language that seperated it from its influences did a great job of helping her avoid the trap of becoming a period piece or a stodgy authenticist. the record has personality in spades and it's all amy.

The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree that Winehouse suffers from ubiquity. For a few years she was everywhere - on the radio (how many singles were there off that album?), on the front of every gossip magazine at the supermarket, every Hallowe'en party had at least two Winehouses...so it's hard for me to listen to this fresh. I don't think I'll ever love it, but I'm sure I'll look back more appreciatively in the future.

seandalai, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually after listening to "Rehab" again (and I managed not to hear it all that much), I am reminded why I was never interested in her. It doesn't strike much of a chord for me musically (I don't hate it, but I am not into it) and the lyrics and image don't interest me. I'm not very fascinated with the whole junkie mystique.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link

(And if that's annoying just be glad I'm not commenting on all the tracks I do hate on this list.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 July 2010 01:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of, I'm going to repost those since they're buried behind the cut now.

Wednesday's results:

100. NE-YO "Because of You" (2007) [195.5 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
99. DAMIAN "JR. GONG" MARLEY "Welcome to Jamrock" (2005) [197 points, 11 votes]
98. CHAMILLIONAIRE ft. KRAYZIE BONE "Ridin'" (2005) [198.5 points, 10 votes]
97. RÓISÍN MURPHY "Overpowered" (2007) [199.5 points, 10 votes]
96. THE KNIFE "Marble House" (2006) [204.5 points, 10 votes]
95. CAMERA OBSCURA "Lloyd, I'm Ready to Be Heartbroken" (2006) [204.5 points, 11 votes]
94. THE-DREAM "Fancy" (2009) [205.5 points, 8 votes]
93. BIG BOI ft. GUCCI MANE "Shine Blockas" (2009) [206 points, 8 votes]
92. CORTNEY TIDWELL "Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson Objects in Space Remix)" (2007) [207.5 points, 10 votes]
91. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM "45:33" (2006) [208 points, 10 votes]
90. WASHED OUT "Feel it All Around" (2009) [208.5 points, 10 votes]
89. GIRLS "Lust for Life" (2008) [209 points, 8 votes]
88. LADY GAGA "Paparazzi" (2009) [209 points, 10 votes]
87. ROBYN "Be Mine" (2005) [209 points, 12 votes]
86. THE HOLD STEADY "Stuck Between Stations" (2007) [210.5 points, 8 votes]
85. JACKIE CHAIN ft. JHI ALI "Rollin'" (2008) [212.5 points, 7 votes]
84. FEVER RAY "Seven" (2009) [212.5 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. FUTURE OF THE LEFT "Arming Eritrea" (2009) [213.5 points, 10 votes]
82. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE "SexyBack" (2006) [216 points, 9 votes]
81. JOY ORBISON "Hyph Mngo" (2009) [219.5 points, 9 votes]

Today's results:

80. YEAH YEAH YEAHS "Zero" (2009) [221.5 points, 9 votes]
79. CHROMATICS "In the City" (2006) [223.5 points, 8 votes]
78. THE FALL "Blindness" (2005) [225.5 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
77. MAXWELL "Pretty Wings" (2009) [227 points, 9 votes]
76. ÂME "Rej" (2005) [228 points, 10 votes]
75. GHOSTFACE KILLAH "Shakey Dog" (2006) [228 points, 11 votes]
74. MGMT "Time to Pretend" (2007) [228 points, 13 votes]
73. DJ QUIK & KURUPT "9x Outta Ten" (2009) [229.5 points, 10 votes]
72. GANG GANG DANCE "House Jam" (2008) [230.5 points, 11 votes]
71. KANYE WEST "Love Lockdown" (2008) [230.5 points, 12 votes]
70. GRINDERMAN "No Pussy Blues" (2007) [232 points, 9 votes]
69. HOT CHIP "Ready for the Floor" (2008) [237.5 points, 11 votes]
68. THE XX "Crystalised" (2009) [239 points, 12 votes]
67. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE "Fireworks" (2007) [240 points, 11 votes]
66. JUNIOR BOYS "In the Morning" (2006) [240.5 points, 12 votes]
65. OF MONTREAL "The Past Is a Grotesque Animal" (2007) [241.5 points, 10 votes]
64. FEVER RAY "When I Grow Up" (2009) [243 points, 11 votes]
63. NELLY FURTADO "Maneater" (2006) [243.5 points, 13 votes]
62. KANYE WEST "Can't Tell Me Nothing" (2007) [249.5 points, 15 votes]
61. AMY WINEHOUSE "Rehab" (2006) [250.5 points, 12 votes]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link


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