ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

p. much the only knife-related stuff i f/w are the singles from silent shout, all the rest of their stuff has bored me to death

re: Nelly Furtado

imo all the big singles from that album are boring and i only really fuck with "no hay igual" and "all good things" -- but i totally realize i am chilling alone in challop canyon there

The best song on Loose IMO is "Wait For You"; I'm still mad that wasn't a single.

ppl hating on The Knife... you live in a world that is not mine

I think "Wait For You" was the only song on that album I had no use for

man so many great songs that i didn't end up voting for - "shakey dog", "house jam", "9xs", etc.

dig "zero" and "crystallized" just fine, but prefer other songs on the album and abstained from voting those guys in traxx, since theyre on my albums list. will totally stan for "fireworks", f yall

"time to pretend" and "love lockdown" are both kinda like ehhh...that song? to me - am fine w/ the latter but in no way would it make a list like this for me

i actually voted for "turn into" by the yeah yeah yeahs - i forgot to nominate it so i was probably the only vote, but it's def my favorite YYYs song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exqCFoPiwpk

"time to pretend" is my least favorite of those 3 big mgmt singles

People saying that the Animal Collective guys "can't sing" are just... well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match. What's more their experiments with harmony have produced some very exciting stuff. It just winds me up when people who've probably only heard about 2 minutes of "My Girls" assume that everything they've done is like this. Sure it's not all instantly-accessible silky-smooth pop music (although much of it is very tuneful and heavily influenced by mainstream pop), but that isn't the damn point of it all.

"time to pretend" is my least favorite of those 3 big mgmt singles

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 5:32 PM (2 minutes ago)

otm, no use for that one, but like-to-love the other two

oh cool "the past is a grotesque animal" made it! don't know why i didn't vote for that, prob cuz i ended up voting for two of their albums anyway. did lex try this?

i never could and never will enjoy "rehab" though. everything about it rubs me up the wrong way.

The singer from Yeah Yeah Yeahs reminds me a lot of Harriet Harman in that video

i rate "fireworks" as the canon animal collective song, altho i did not vote for it

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo "maneater" is far, far inferior to "promiscuous" and "say it right"

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:38 PM (2 hours ago)

otm and otm! really hope "promiscuous" made it

i mean i like a bunch of AC songs more than "fireworks" but it's great

People saying that the Animal Collective guys "can't sing" are just... well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match. What's more their experiments with harmony have produced some very exciting stuff. It just winds me up when people who've probably only heard about 2 minutes of "My Girls" assume that everything they've done is like this. Sure it's not all instantly-accessible silky-smooth pop music (although much of it is very tuneful and heavily influenced by mainstream pop), but that isn't the damn point of it all.

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:34 PM (4 minutes ago)

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really pleasantly suprised so many people who are new to jackie chain are feeling "rollin"

better singers than other "leftfield music" bands doesn't really say anything to me

IMO Electric Feel > Time to Pretend >> Kids

Kids just seems so ordinary. TTP does more interesting things and I love how the chorus builds and how it feels when the backing drops out of one verse and then kicks back in.

of montreal have proved themselves to be my surprise possible favourite albums band of the last five years. sure "grotesque" is a relentless monster of a track but it's important not to overlook the rest of hissing fauna, as well as skeletal lamping.

i think even tuomas and lex could find something to enjoy in this, my favourite tune on hissing fauna:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBfgQvM7wtE

"Rollin'" is still zzzz to me, just makes me think about how much i'd rather hear Three 6 do the same kinda sound

well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match.

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:34 PM (54 seconds ago)

would agree that the "can't sing" accusations are challopsy if not stupid, but "of limited ability" seems defensible - whether or not you like the band.

xxp ha i was VERY kind to hissing fauna in my albums ballot but over time that's become my least favorite track on it - def think lex & tuomas could get with "grotesque" much esaier

ok time to actually go through and listen to all of these

"just some faggy girl" is the only part of Hissing Fauna that grates on me now. It didn't used to for some reason.

to bait for even more arrows up my arse, am i the only one who felt "rollin" just sounds like every other track of that style?

oh xposts

what other bleary, ecstasied-out gulf-coast comedown rap do you think it sounds like? honest question

contenderizer, what i am saying is that they do have an incredible range and a great deal of ability. admittedly i reckon with recent work they've kind of been burying their vocals with too much processing, and i can see how the last two albums might grate a little on people's ears due to the trebliness of the production. i'd recommend people at least give "sung tongs", "prospect hummer" or even panda bear's "young prayer" album at least a cursory listen before dishing out the "lol, indie hipster singing" disses.

(fireworks fills me with joy. there, i said it).

dude don't tell me they're actually singing well and i'm hearing it wrong

i could really give a fuck how much "range" they have

the singing is like the 18th-most offensive thing about animal collective

also that

i dont really like fireworks, but dog latin otm on earlier AC showing plenty of skill and competence - like dan mentioned upthread, pretty much everyone who sings is really doing a character, and thinking that FOTL dude or AC peeps are just doing it that way because thats all they can do is being willfully obnoxious imo

i don't think it's "all they can do"; it's just awful

i mean i hope that if i was running around here saying "geez Joy Orbison is a terrible keyboard player" i hope youd be telling me im full of shit

contenderizer, what i am saying is that they do have an incredible range and a great deal of ability. admittedly i reckon with recent work they've kind of been burying their vocals with too much processing, and i can see how the last two albums might grate a little on people's ears due to the trebliness of the production.

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:53 PM (23 seconds ago)

but everything i've heard since has progressively subverted that. more and more i DO think that their vocal work on that record was an accident that they can't replicate, cuz though i've dug tracks and moments since (esp. on feels and person pitch), they just aren't hitting those highs anymore. and if i only had the last couple anco records to go by, i'd probably be in the "can't sing" camp myself.

last two posts squarely on the money. i wish sung tongs had got the recognition MPP got, then people could shut up about this band being terrible.

yes. Sung Tongs was the last one I really enjoyed.

xxxxpost yeah see thinking its awful is aok w/me! thats a valid response imo, i was mostly reacting to the tuomas/etc. approach of "gosh why did they let this guy sing when he cant? are they picking on him?" school of criticism which is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i wish sung tongs had got the recognition MPP got, then people could shut up about this band being terrible.

Sung Tongs got plenty of recognition in its day, but I still don't like it. In fact, I'd bet there are a lot of people like me who couldn't really find a good entry way into the band until Panda Bear released Person Pitch, and then dominated much of Merriweather Post Pavilion. I get that stuff.

Wow, four of my votes have featured already!! Try and guess which ones they are!! (Clue: not hard)

xpost to jjjusten -

yes me too - i'm not asking people to love all ac unconditionally. in fact that would suck. they've been an important band to me since sung tongs simply because they could do this "idiot savant" thing contenderizer mentioned, and have done it in enigmatic fits and starts, which kind of suits me fine. but when people slag off a band because they're not singing like mariah or celine or sam cooke or something, well that's total batshit.

i just realised why i don't like person pitch very much, and that's because there isn't much singing on it, or at least it's kind of shoved right in the background.

person pitch is the worst music i have ever heard

person pitch kills any AC solo work imo

even the stuff on MPP like "brothersport" that was an obv outgrowth of what noah did on PP

"bros" is like... 77 theme song

i hope it does well in this poll -- i had it in my top 20, didn't vote for PP tho mostly cuz i've never been able to get into "good girl/ carrots" which is like 1/3 of the album

"bros" is like... 77 theme song

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:16 PM Bookmark

if that's the case then please uninvite me from 77

done and done