yeah, a while back matos and i were talking about back to black and he was like "the thing about it that no one ever says is that it's one of the best singer-songwriter albums EVER", which i am inclined to agree with
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
winehouse's songwriting slant and vocal delivery are singular (and emotionally affecting) enough to sidestep the marketing angle
This is true, and I like Winehouse...don't get me wrong... but Adele is an easier fit into my own personal desire to have a modern-day Dusty Springfield.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure i have any desire whatsoever to have a modern-day dusty springfield, certainly not adele
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you not like Dusty, Rev?
― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I've only heard "Son of a Preacher Man". I prefer Aretha's version.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H71YMS0DjOQ
― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
no sound on my computer :(
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know why "rehab" was the one that got so much critical and commercial adoration at the time.
lead single, party-friendly jam...def the most "populist", though i also preferred some of the other singles.
some of her lyrics on back to black are just devastating (also: funny!), tho i guess (hope) we'll have a chance to talk about that in the albums thread. on "rehab", what i love best is how she makes the jaunty, irresistible arrangement and absolutely unstoppable tune her armour, her self-defence - the force of the music enables her defiance, and it only cracks on lines like "ooh, i just need a friend".
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway, whether i like dusty or not isn't the issue. the point is that if i wanted to listen to dusty, i sure as hell wouldn't go to adele for my fix.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
some of her lyrics are great, but it's her incredibly expressive voice that really gets to me, esp on tracks like "back to black"xp
― Dan S, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
the point is that if i wanted to listen to dusty, i sure as hell wouldn't go to adele for my fix.
Well yeah, Dusty Springfield will always be my first choice when I'm in the mood to listen to Dusty Springfield, but I really like some of the ghosts that are flying around on 19.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Reverend, check "I Only Want to be with You," my one fave Rusty song.
I think I should give Amy Winehouse another shot given that I've been listening to a few things in the past year or two that I think aren't so far removed.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd go with this too. I didn't think I actually liked 'Rehab' much - I voted for the two no-one ever talks about (hi!) - but playing it just now and boy does it sound great.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Rusty is Dusty's twin brother? xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL sorry. I'm at work and 1/2 my brain is elsewhere.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
"I have always been a great fan of Rusty!"
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Sure, I get that--it's just a hardcore go-to song for me.
(my computer shorted so xxxxpost)
― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Rusty Springfield aka Arthur Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69K0bdOAChw
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
no point in posting stuff for me to listen to, my sound card doesn't work
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Kanye >>>>> Fever Ray/The Knife
― Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
That tweren't for you...just a joke. xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
― Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:20 PM Bookmark
well duh
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
apples and oranges but we are goddamn BLESSED to have the knife around. sall im gonna say. as a fan of both. but yeah id side with the knife on that argument any day. mostly everything that they touch is pretty brilliant.
― gman59, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I would've preferred Adele be the representative of that stuff on this poll, but she wasn't even nommed.
damn, yeah, fucking love those two singles (haven't heard the album)
― exit through the (Tape Store), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
p. much the only knife-related stuff i f/w are the singles from silent shout, all the rest of their stuff has bored me to death
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
re: Nelly Furtado
imo all the big singles from that album are boring and i only really fuck with "no hay igual" and "all good things" -- but i totally realize i am chilling alone in challop canyon there
The best song on Loose IMO is "Wait For You"; I'm still mad that wasn't a single.
ppl hating on The Knife... you live in a world that is not mine
― my funny mommy hole, sweet funny mommy hole (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I think "Wait For You" was the only song on that album I had no use for
― The Reverend, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
man so many great songs that i didn't end up voting for - "shakey dog", "house jam", "9xs", etc.
dig "zero" and "crystallized" just fine, but prefer other songs on the album and abstained from voting those guys in traxx, since theyre on my albums list. will totally stan for "fireworks", f yall
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"time to pretend" and "love lockdown" are both kinda like ehhh...that song? to me - am fine w/ the latter but in no way would it make a list like this for me
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually voted for "turn into" by the yeah yeah yeahs - i forgot to nominate it so i was probably the only vote, but it's def my favorite YYYs song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exqCFoPiwpk
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
"time to pretend" is my least favorite of those 3 big mgmt singles
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
People saying that the Animal Collective guys "can't sing" are just... well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match. What's more their experiments with harmony have produced some very exciting stuff. It just winds me up when people who've probably only heard about 2 minutes of "My Girls" assume that everything they've done is like this. Sure it's not all instantly-accessible silky-smooth pop music (although much of it is very tuneful and heavily influenced by mainstream pop), but that isn't the damn point of it all.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 5:32 PM (2 minutes ago)
otm, no use for that one, but like-to-love the other two
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
oh cool "the past is a grotesque animal" made it! don't know why i didn't vote for that, prob cuz i ended up voting for two of their albums anyway. did lex try this?
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i never could and never will enjoy "rehab" though. everything about it rubs me up the wrong way.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
The singer from Yeah Yeah Yeahs reminds me a lot of Harriet Harman in that video
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i rate "fireworks" as the canon animal collective song, altho i did not vote for it
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
imo "maneater" is far, far inferior to "promiscuous" and "say it right"
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:38 PM (2 hours ago)
otm and otm! really hope "promiscuous" made it
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean i like a bunch of AC songs more than "fireworks" but it's great
People saying that the Animal Collective guys "can't sing" are just... well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match. What's more their experiments with harmony have produced some very exciting stuff. It just winds me up when people who've probably only heard about 2 minutes of "My Girls" assume that everything they've done is like this. Sure it's not all instantly-accessible silky-smooth pop music (although much of it is very tuneful and heavily influenced by mainstream pop), but that isn't the damn point of it all.― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:34 PM (4 minutes ago)
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:34 PM (4 minutes ago)
http://inthroughthefrontdoor.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bullseye.jpg
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
really pleasantly suprised so many people who are new to jackie chain are feeling "rollin"
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
better singers than other "leftfield music" bands doesn't really say anything to me
― ripe dink (some dude), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
IMO Electric Feel > Time to Pretend >> Kids
Kids just seems so ordinary. TTP does more interesting things and I love how the chorus builds and how it feels when the backing drops out of one verse and then kicks back in.
― Scelsi Hotel (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
of montreal have proved themselves to be my surprise possible favourite albums band of the last five years. sure "grotesque" is a relentless monster of a track but it's important not to overlook the rest of hissing fauna, as well as skeletal lamping.
i think even tuomas and lex could find something to enjoy in this, my favourite tune on hissing fauna:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBfgQvM7wtE
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
"Rollin'" is still zzzz to me, just makes me think about how much i'd rather hear Three 6 do the same kinda sound
― ripe dink (some dude), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
well if that opinion's not completely ignorant, it's just plain stupid. Sure Avey Tare's got his idiosyncrasies, but between him and Noah Lennox they have more control over their voices and what they're doing than pretty much anyone working in leftfield music today. Over the years AC have done everything from the softest, prettiest of folk balladry to harsh, almost industrial-style grind; and they adapt their voices to match.― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:34 PM (54 seconds ago)
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:34 PM (54 seconds ago)
would agree that the "can't sing" accusations are challopsy if not stupid, but "of limited ability" seems defensible - whether or not you like the band.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp ha i was VERY kind to hissing fauna in my albums ballot but over time that's become my least favorite track on it - def think lex & tuomas could get with "grotesque" much esaier
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ok time to actually go through and listen to all of these
― ciderpress, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
"just some faggy girl" is the only part of Hissing Fauna that grates on me now. It didn't used to for some reason.
― skip, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
to bait for even more arrows up my arse, am i the only one who felt "rollin" just sounds like every other track of that style?
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
oh xposts