Wire - 154: Classic or Dud?

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i'm rly falling for the tuneful ones like those two and "a mutual friend", sheesh, i feel like i'm cheating or something

Your instincts are correct, I assure you.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 9 November 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

ten months pass...

"I Should Have Known Better" is probably one of my 5 to 10 favourite songs ever...I cannot overemphasise its perfection

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

I sometimes think the versions of "Touching Display" and "Map Ref 41 N93 W" on "Behind the Curtain" are better than the album versions.

lacipetersonskid, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

"Blessed State" oh, what a pearl.

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

most/all of the Rockpalast (1979 German TV) performances are on YouTube, just search Wire Rockpalast (or individual 154 titles). features much/most of the album live(?) - oddly enough sounds reasonably close sonically/arrangements to the album versions (unlike the dry demos). worth checking just to see it sung! (and that music coming from 4 guys...)

Paul, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah they put that out on DVD too. Wire on the Box. There are some Chairs Missing songs in the set, and a really nice "Pink Flag" right at the end.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

Is there anyone who really doesn't think this is a total classic? Even if you prefer the previous albums (which on some days I do).

The "Behind The Curtains" versions are amazing, though, in that neither-here-nor-there midground they straddle between punk and post-punk.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 20 September 2009 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

i think it's really good but not a total classic; a few songs that just bore me. "a touching display", "map ref", and the first three tracks are definitely classic.

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

kinda in the mood for this album, all of a sudden

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

xp a few songs that just bore me

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

Glad to see the love for this. Seems like it was often unfairly derided as a dip in quality. Poppycock. It's #24 on my all-time list. It would be higher, except there was a lot of competition from that era, like Television, Buzzcocks, Feelies, Gang of Four, Raincoats, P.i.L.

Wire On The Box: 1979 is available on Netflix!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

rah!

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

Providing
Deciding

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:21 (fourteen years ago)

It was soon there

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

so fucking classic, this is the first post-punk album that blew my mind

♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

It really redefined the meaning of vendetta for me.

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

It was soon there

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:43 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

so fucking classic, this is the first post-punk album that blew my mind

― ♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:08 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

69 + 85 = 154 Huh? HUH???!!

John Nestle Harding (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

No, 154 was the number of gigs they had played at that point. Or so the legend says.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that's what I heard as well

John Nestle Harding (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

When I was in my late teens, I was encouraged to buy this album at a used record shop (ca. 1998, maybe). The shop owner (an old-school punk) said: we used to get high and listen to this album. Best sort-of-advice I ever received!

softspool, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:58 (eleven years ago)

Classic! This may actually be my favourite Wire album.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:09 (eleven years ago)

seven months pass...

http://cdn.discogs.com/0xvQfrhEUO_D8Y5tc2Z05DOYAg4=/fit-in/588x589/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-6731843-1425502746-4364.jpeg.jpg

Looks like rockets shooting off and flags and stuff.
Idunno. Douknow? Always wondered.

Royal Trux/TFUL282/Devo Obsesso (edges), Friday, 21 August 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)

/\ That was supposed to be "WTF is the art?"

Royal Trux/TFUL282/Devo Obsesso (edges), Friday, 21 August 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)

"Chorus!"

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 21 August 2015 21:05 (ten years ago)

i have always found this album mostly impenetrable, save "i should have known better", "the 15th", "a touching display", "map ref", and ESPECIALLY "40 versions". "40 Versions" is just unbelievably sick.

brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2015 21:33 (ten years ago)

A Mutual Friend 4eva!!!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 August 2015 21:54 (ten years ago)

re the cover:
SPOILER!!!!

look away

it says WIRE in highly stylized typography
turn the album cover upside down
unmistakeable 'W' right?
the 'i' is easy to see too

squiggly/rippled line/strips represent 'r'
3 lines or strips are the 'e'

Paul, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:20 (ten years ago)

think the designer managed to get other references in there too, like pink flag...

Paul, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:27 (ten years ago)

so what does the back cover say?

new noise, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:29 (ten years ago)

Designed by Lewis and Gilbert I think? (not sure I buy your theory that it say 'Wire')

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:32 (ten years ago)

all part of the same picture if you have the LP

Paul, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:35 (ten years ago)

the W wraps around to the back so you may not see it if you're not looking at the LP cover

Paul, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:39 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

this album is perfect

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)

correct!

imago, Monday, 3 December 2018 12:08 (seven years ago)

what is your favourite song

imago, Monday, 3 December 2018 12:12 (seven years ago)

https://i.ibb.co/MB2Vgf3/154.jpg

would wear wire

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)

what is your favourite song

― imago, Monday, December 3, 2018 5:12 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk! at this point "a touching display" i think?

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:58 (seven years ago)

Don't tell Alfred.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)

hot take: goth prog is good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)

Damn, those sweaters are the ultimate post-punk Dad uniform.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 3 December 2018 14:56 (seven years ago)

I'm sure someone could do a Christmas version as well.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)

a touching display is a fine, fine choice, probably in my top three

still can't look beyond i should have known better for #1 tho. one of those openers that guarantees the album immortality no matter what the rest of it is like

imago, Monday, 3 December 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)

obviously the rest of it is full of stuff like a mutual friend and on returning so it would be immortal even without ISHKB but still

imago, Monday, 3 December 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)

"A Touching Display" was always my favourite too.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)

154: I should have POLLed better?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)

the two shortest songs are my favorites, but the whole thing is soooooo classic

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)

i heard a long time ago that the first three wire album covers are meant to work together, in combination. i was absolutely certain of this, and even thought i saw an image that showed how it looked.

i'm doing it now and it doesn't look right at all? am i making all this up?

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)

pink flag and chairs missing makes some sense, overlaid. but 154 throws everything off.

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51v0KGMKu9L._SY355_.jpg

J. Sam, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)

pink flag / chairs missing:

https://i.imgur.com/2idNn2d.jpg

pink flag / chairs missing / 154:

https://i.imgur.com/XdFC35p.jpg

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)


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