mind reader is a pretty cool song
― it's detlef season, you schremps (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)
they just finished up the video for mindreader, debuting july 8th at 8pm on mtv2
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
There's another new track, Pathfinder, that is doing the rounds and is also terrific. So ravey!
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
His remix of Black Box is probably my favourite though...
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/nightslugs
ep previewing
― plax (ico), Saturday, 24 July 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
^^that ep's out this week and i love it - he wasn't wrong when he said he was doing dark, shamanistic stuff. love how deep and rich they sound, and the cassie.faith evans/beyoncé samples are done so well.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:35 (fifteen years ago)
The new EP, first track aside is DULL. I'm not sure this sort of dark, bass-heavy direction is one he should be going in - especially as everyone else is doing it. When you can put out bangers as great as Mindreader and Pathfinder, why bother?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)
eh, i dig it. i really wasn't that into pathfinder get worn out on party/club-friendly bangers and re: "everyone else is doing it" in regard to the dark/bass-heaviness - everyone isn't doing it nearly this well.
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)
these are prob my favourite two tracks off the that mystic ep - still can't get enough of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9seoXcXuTN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkL8hCaSqtQ
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)
The breakdown at the end of "You" is probably my favorite moment in music all year (though I guess that came out in '09) and kicked off my infatuation with him. His remix of Rita Indiana is subliiime (not on Youtube yet but it's on his FACT mix and comes out next week).
Love this as well:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3dVXr6_20
Go see him DJ if you have the chance. It's a thrill hearing him connect the dots between his own sound and r&b, rap, etc.
― big jeans (lou), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)
heh i helped him id the producer on the orig unorthadox daughter. he didn't have too many ins for a clean edit so he ended up looping a lot of the outro.
a track that sort of came from nowhere on the ep and ended up being my favorite is "seven chirp"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLNKvP1pOWA
love it on it's own but there's also something about it that reminds me of scott hardkiss doing raincry as god within
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
How can you remix Unorthodox Daughter and remove No Lay? Philistine.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:41 (fifteen years ago)
surprised that he's not from UK. anyway the first two tracks from that EP are unreal. I imagine "Bust Broke" would be great as one the first tracks in a dj set.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)
I listened to That Mystic on the way in to work today and what is actually sounds like is an extended Prodigy album intro or build, just before everything kicks in. Except it doesn't really.
The EP in general is kind of frustrating still, Kingdom is so obviously vastly more talented than most of the people in this scene and I really hope he doesn't go over full time to the dark side of the non-dancing nodding hordes.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)
Kinda agree in general but you gotta admit "Fogs" is brilliant.
― Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)
the non-dancing nodding hordes
and who the fuck might these be
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)
and how are "that mystic" and "fogs" NOT massively danceable?
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
Can't speak for Matt, I think they are danceable (those two in particular). The use of overlaid half-step beats definitely caters for typical (nodding / skanking) dubstep audiences as well though. It's double-speed music. This is not a bad thing, would become so if it became dude's standard operating procedure but it's way too early to call it that.
― Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
The NDNH are pretty much a constant in British dance music fandom and have been since the early 90s, but yeah the halfstep beat doesn't help. "Massively danceable" is a hell of an overstatement but Fogs is pretty good once it starts going. Anything that deliberately messes with momentum like that offends my dancing sensibilities really.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)
you and tim using "nodding dubstep audiences" as strawmen to beat this stuff with - even when you like it! - is really really tired now, especially as it couldn't be further from the reality of actual night slugs nights, as you, matt, very well know from the ONE time you came to one (tim of course having attended NONE)
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
i mean, the hostility to that sort of audience is SHARED by these producers!
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
But I didn't actually say "nodding dubstep audiences" and you know that full well. I wasn't even talking about dubstep per se because I agree that's played out and tired. I'm talking about a specific type of (usually) spliff-head dance music fan that seems to have latched onto stuff like this (and bedroom-friendly dubstep-influenced music in general). I'm not actually talking about club nights as 'non-dancing nodding hordes' should have indicated.
Actually the one time I went to Night Slugs the downstairs dancefloor *was* full of people standing and nodding and a minority of people near the front dancing - that's not misrepresentation that was my actual experience. Much of the Night Slugs stuff I've heard IS actually danceable, I just don't think it's very good.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)
(And yes I am perfectly willing to accept that the night is not always like this...)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)
I mean, surely you agree this audience exists, right? I was saying that Kingdom is so great at producing actual bangers that it would be a waste for him to make this his main style. You're defending the label against an ad-hominem attack that I didn't actually make.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)
i'm saying these ARE actual bangers, certainly not an attempt to cater to that audience - not that i know of anyone who does do that, or indeed anyone who's part of that audience, so i don't see the point in worrying about it
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)
Think we'll have to disagree on the definition of 'banger' there but I'm aware continuing in this vein will just make me sound like a 2010 version of the "it's just an insect crawling across a microphone" crew so should probably just stop.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
i find danceable-or-not convos kind of superfluous since people (on the us east coast at least) don't actually dance anymore vs flop around anyway but in anycase i've never seen a crowd having a problem proceeding with said flopping anytime he's dropped these tracks.
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
I fully admit to being a paid up non-dancing nodding horde but I really quite like this EP.
― Wheal Dream, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
yallr crazy btw
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
Lex you start yelling at me in these threads even when I'm not saying anything inflammatory.
Matt said he hoped Kingdom didn't go too far in the direction of dark head-nodding music, I expressed conditional agreement with that sentiment but said that hey you know the music is actually really good, so... And then you immediately start up with the swearing and the ad hominem attacks. In the funky thread you also started yelling at me specifically after Matt rubbished Girl Unit when I hadn't even said anything.
I don't know why you just see red on this point, because as far as I can tell I have always been pretty respectful towards Night Slugs, with the one exception being saying I found the 2009 promo mix disappointing.
The Kingdom EP is massive at dubstep nights (mainly just the title track though), as are a lot of Night Slugs releases. I go to them fairly regularly because so many of my friends are into all this music. As a general rule this stuff is among the best stuff played at such nights (though I've never been an across-the-board dubstep hater, I just don't like the Benga/Distance/Caspa continuum, which is a fairly common position I would have thought), in part because DJs over here never seem to play the Ramadanman (etc.) tracks I actually love and go for the weaker material in that vein.
People don't really dance at dubstep nights, still (well, not in the non-nodding/skanking sense). This may be an exclusively-Oz thing but I doubt it because a good third of the audience are british backpackers.
My comment that Kingdom's EP tracks can work in both contexts is (a) objectively correct, and unable to be disproven by the particular practice at a specific club; and (b) hardly a diss.
― Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
This is coolhttp://rcrdlbl.com/artists/Jacques_Greene/track/Tell_Me_Kingdom_Edit
― Number None, Friday, 25 February 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah that Jacques Greene edit is great. It's at the start of his XLR8er podcast which is largely a bit boring and generic bass womping for half an hour and then suddenly opens out and becomes amazing. Worth listening to for the final 20mins alone.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:50 (fifteen years ago)
yummy bingham's voice brought me LIFE in those closing 10 minutes
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:51 (fifteen years ago)
also matt did you see http://twitter.com/LesleyER/status/45365257694224384 ?
!!!
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:52 (fifteen years ago)
01 Jacques Greene "Tell Me (Kingdom Edit)" (LuckyMe)02 Kingdom "SFX"03 Kingdom "Los Poderes (Edit ft. Floetry)" (Dutty Artz)04 Kingdom "Stalker Ha" (Night Slugs)05 Kingdom "Uptown Buck" (Scion/Trouble&Bass)06 Jam City "Aqua Box" (Night Slugs)07 Katy B "Lights On (Girl Unit Remix)" (Rinse)08 Kingdom "Okay To Dance" (Fool's Gold)09 MikeQ & Angel X "Let It All Out 2011" (Qween Beat)10 Nguzunguzu "Timesup" (Fade to Mind)11 Kingdom "Stadium Pass" (Enchufada)12 Bok Bok "Silo Pass" (Night Slugs)13 DJ Cabos x Kingdom "Snapduro + Appetite Edit"14 Kid Ink "Keep It Rollin"15 Kingdom "If You Buck"16 Win Win "Interleave (Kingdom Remix)" (Vice)17 Total Freedom "YB Voice Song"18 DJ Exota Vs. DJ Vali "Pu**yf**ker (Kingdom Edit)" (Unreleased)19 Jim Jones / Automatik "Go Cinderella (Kingdom Edit)" (Diplomats)20 Ciara x Girl Unit "Ride + Every Time (Kingdom Blend)" (Night Slugs)
Bits in italics are all terrific. H8 what Girl Unit did to Lights On though.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:53 (fifteen years ago)
Actually the Nguzunguzu track is nice as well, I'm liking what these dudes do.
Kingdom himself seems to be separating his work into "dark and moody" and "huge and celebratory" and I kind of wish he'd move between them in the context of individual tracks more.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:55 (fifteen years ago)
nguzunguzu's rainbow arabia remix is brilliant - they've also just done this new mix, haven't listened yet but it was def d/l on sight http://dismagazine.com/disco/mixes/14817/nguzunguzu-the-perfect-lullaby/
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:56 (fifteen years ago)
Yes that Rainbow Arabia mix is the track that's really worked for me (the drums!), that and the Ciara Deuces mix. They've got a much lighter touch than most of these producers.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:58 (fifteen years ago)
Also wtf at that waterfall? It's a bit like trying to download a mix in a cheap takeaway.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:59 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really enjoying this Nguzunguzu mix and the waterfall thanks a bunch.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 11 March 2011 13:44 (fifteen years ago)
That Nguzunguzu (that's a real bitch to type) mix is fantastic. Thanks lex
― Number None, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah this Nguzunguzu mix is lush. I want more zouk remixes of rnb ballads.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
um yeah i hadn't actually heard it when i posted it but this nguzunguzu mix is seriously O_O
― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:38 (fifteen years ago)
nn's pretty on point as a rule - when i found out mia hired asma as her new dj i called it that it meant she'd probably start making good music again after maya
― fauxmarc, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I know they're not really in competition but Nguzunguzu mix >>> Kingdom mix. LOVE what they (it is a they, right?) do to 'I Run It'.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, asma maroof + daniel pineda
― fauxmarc, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
live at the do-over, la a few weeks back
http://soundcloud.com/thedoover/kingdom-060511
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, what's the "Promise" remix? Someone tell me before I go insane from not being able to listen to it all the time.
― 51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 June 2011 06:43 (fourteen years ago)
AND OH FUCKING SHIT THIS "ROCK THE BOAT" REMIX
― 51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 June 2011 06:51 (fourteen years ago)
I think I need somebody to hold my hand for this shit.
― 51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 June 2011 06:54 (fourteen years ago)