best nu-andre 3000 verse

I'd just like to point out that BB's verse on RF is killer, too. Rae's is kind meh tho.

yeah, that's weird to me, too, but I think RF might have just been a leak

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no, it was pressed as an official 12" w/ art and everything

also you are crazy re: raekwon, most listenable verse on the song

but c'mon you can't argue that Andre isn't way more famous and acclaimed overall.

is he? I thought the general consensus was that the Love Below was a bit of an unfocused mess (which it is)

don't get me wrong, i don't trust anyone who thinks that bullshit was better than Speakerboxxx. i'm talking about in terms of media profile and general rap canon bullshit (i.e. Andre making the top 10 of that stupid MTV lists the last 2 years and BB not being mentioned in either).

!!! did not know that

Taking Sides: Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

rae sounds like he's on autopilot

Walk it out.

lol ``
somedude';

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lol shakey only in the ILM universe is big boi accepted as the better rapper than andre

"but big boi only talks about pimpin...3 stacks talks about real creative shit like SPACESHIPS"

lol ``
somedude';

this shit is depressing

https://soundcloud.com/therealandre3000benjamin

roughness of the vocals aside, I...kinda like "Look Ma No Hands"?

I like these.

these are also apparently half a year old?

new album on Friday (no verses)

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/14/1212661071/andre-3000-album

Possible new "infamous reviled album that was subsequently reassessed and found to be great" incoming.

idk i think this “flute-heavy instrumental album” might not be an enduring classic

i'm looking forward to it

idk i think this “flute-heavy instrumental album” might not be an enduring classic

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, November 14, 2023 7:31 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I laughed at your joke and then I clicked the link.

Huh.

The track titles!

Looking at the track titles at least he is self-aware and has humor about releasing an instrumental flute album.

On the bass, Derek Smalls

He wrote this

the track titles have sold me on this, tbh

Man it's too bad that this will becomes a punch line for most people, he's just out here aging as gracefully as humanly possible.

that one Key & Peele sketch has a lot to answer for

i love that interview and i already hate how this will be received as a prank

who knows if it will be good, but honestly i think the worst case scenario (given the very able people playing on it) is some solid if slightly anonymous floaty jazz stuff

it's not a prank, he's following his muse. like he said says in track #1, "this is literally the way the wind blew me this time"

the tracklist:

01 I Swear, I Really Wanted to Make a “Rap” Album but This Is Literally the Way the Wind Blew Me This Time
02 The Slang Word P(*)ssy Rolls Off the Tongue With Far Better Ease Than the Proper Word Vagina . Do You Agree?
03 That Night in Hawaii When I Turned Into a Panther and Started Making These Low Register Purring Tones That I Couldn’t Control ... Sh¥t Was Wild
04 BuyPoloDisorder’s Daughter Wears a 3000® Button Down Embroidered
05 Ninety Three ’Til Infinity And Beyoncé
06 Ghandi, Dalai Lama, Your Lord & Savior J.C. / Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and John Wayne Gacy
07 Ants to You, Gods to Who ?
08 Dreams Once Buried Beneath the Dungeon Floor Slowly Sprout Into Undying Gardens

is this self-released?

nvm, it's on Epic/Sony

[it's not a prank, he's following his muse. like he said says in track #1, "this is literally the way the wind blew me this time"

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, November 14, 2023 10:12 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah totally but i already saw some dumbass on twitter going "metal machine music but with flutes"

(MMM is also great but you know what i mean)

Tangentially related, he was good in the new Kelly Reichardt

87 minutes. In.

xp. Rob I thought it was gonna be an International Anthem release given the line up. I mentioned this in the IA thread a couple months ago. Genuinely surprised it’s coming out in a major label.

song titles put me in the same mood as Don Caballero's ones or a funnier Dirty Three

i thought of Dillinger Four

I mean it’s hard not to see it as prank-ish with those song titles.

At the same time Andre 3000 + instrumental album with flute as lead + kooky song titles - has people talking, so the interest is already there, it just needs to be decent to not be seen as a prank.

it would have been cool if it were on international anthem

Spiritual flute jazz is some of the best shit so I'm pretty hyped for this actually

otm

andre's the best. i love it that a kid from east atlanta has moved on to his jazz phase

would be cool if he had a flute contest with the devil

this is a little too much for me to process.

next up Lauryn Hill releases a vocoder album

you know, pk.... big sigh.

the talks already of this being perceived as a prank or whatever and as soon as i read that preview piece my thought was, "he's self-sabatoging on purpose." then my mind eventually ended up at unplugged 2.0 and the apocalyptic fallout backlash lauryn went (and is still going) through and he's not only the greatest rapper of alltime he may also be some sort of resurrected diety annnnd....

...yeah, this is a little too much for me to process.

i absolutely cannot wait to hear it.

just checked this out on youtube and it's all at this sweet spot of being consistently bad without ever being quite bad enough to be interesting.

lol

xxxp I haven’t read that interview but i had the impression that Andre’s feelings about rap were that it had evolved into something that didn’t suit his talents and he no longer had much to contribute, and didn’t want to be an old man complaining about the youth. Idk maybe he’s being too positive and i gave up on the piano album after one track but that’s not a perspective i find offensive.

Why would you want to put any effort into anything ever again when you can sell out tours - and earn praise - doing nothing but half-assed flute?

It reminds of a quote that may or may not be from Zappa about guitar synths: why would a first-rate guitarist want to sound like a third-rate saxophone player?

you mean the guy who made entire albums with a Synclavier?

Point taken, though!

It reminds of a quote that may or may not be from Zappa about guitar synths: why would a first-rate guitarist want to sound like a third-rate saxophone player?

Lemme just email Kurt Rosenwinkel's manager real quick...

xpost well, assuming the attribution is correct, Zappa was nothing if not full of shit!

Anyone's worst work could be a stepping stone to their best work.

My lifestyle determines my deathstyle

otm

Anyone's worst work could be a stepping stone to their best work.

Lol, sure, in the sense that with practice bad piano and flute players in theory get better. As demonstrated through the guitar acting in BOC's "The Marshall Plan."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqfegOZ_X0

I started comparing this to the moment when John Mellencamp directed a movie, but I’ll go touch grass instead.

Falling from Grace isn't at all bad either

Given his dabbling in acting I'm surprised by Andre's lame pivot to this bullshit rather than the more predictable route of "now I want to direct."

directing requires effort

I bet he could find a way to do it with minimal effort.

Set up a camera, tell people to go in front of it, how hard can it be?

"We decided to try something different and improvise the entire film. Not just the acting, the whole thing. Improvise the set, improvise the lighting, improvise the music ... the whole thing. I've been deeply immersed in the best, Cassavetes, Robin Williams, Marcel the Shell, all of the greats. Did you know David Bowie studied with Marcel the Shell? He's one of my biggest influences, Marcel the Shell. I mean, Bowie, too, that goes without saying, but Marcel the Shell walked so that Bowie can run, and Bowie ran so that I could fly."

Sounds like Masked and Anonymous.

"Give my regards to West Compton"...

How soon we forget the Outlast movie where Andre plays a jazz piano player

I think Jon Benjamin did the definitive version of this with "Well, I Should Have... (Learned How To Play Piano)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTQEVXLAfc4

Well, You Needn't ... Learn How to Play Your Instrument

In a way I respect Andre's view that rap is youth culture and he should bow out of it except when invited, that whatever the current generation is doing with it is de facto cool & correct, and that he has no interest in making throwback old man rap records.

It's also kind of nice and weirdly intimate to hear him noodling around on piano in a very vulnerable way, the only reason it falls flat is that putting out as an album and pressing it to vinyl feels unavoidably like a statement, the kind that he seems loathe to make these days. It's a bind, if he had put it out as a curio under a pseudonym the music wouldn't stand on its own and people would have no interest, but it also doesn't work as an official release under his own name. I think it would have come off better if he had just thrown it up on soundcloud or as a free Bandcamp release.

yeah it looks very much like a scam to get money from his fanbase. even if it isn't that, it certainly looks like it.

I blame the people around him for gassing him up and convincing him to put this out officially (or maybe that's not true and he just felt like it, or he needed some $ and didn't want to have to do Outkast shows).

I guess we should be thankful that he just likes noodling and isn't a nazi.

pretty low bar tbh

sry no more

It sounds exactly like Come On Feel The Lemonheads closing track The Jello Fund

It should be a tape!

as an iPhone memo, it should have been released solely by forcing it onto Bono’s phone and no-one else’s

now that's the sort of artistic trolling i can get behind.

"punish bono, not your fans"