Redd Kross : Classic Or Dud?

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"Teen babes From Monsanto ep is on the Australian Import 'Trance' cd."


Wow. Didn't know that. Thanks, Peter. Must go fetch it now!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

My pleasure. Seen it about on Ebay. Bought mine in Tower Records,London years ago.
Also have a ltd edition 10" '2500 Redd Kross Fans Cant be Wrong' Trance is on that i think.
Ive never seen teen babes on ebay though.

Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

They grew up in Hawthorne, an LA beach suburb that also spawned the Beach Boys. Not a wealthy suburb at all, though from what I've been told they were very, uh, indulged by their parents. They were encouraged to rock from a very early age.

Jeff McDonald's married to Charlotte Caffey of the Go-Gos. He used to go out with Vicki or Debbie Peterson from the Bangles, I forget which one.

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: obsession w/ famous people. Everyone in LA is like that, you get used to it.

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I still find it funny that 2 ex members went on to join Black Flag & Circle Jerks.

Whats Gere upto these days?

Ze Malibu Kidz Features Anna Waronker. Apparently she was in another band. Know anything about either? Whats worth checking out etc (if Kazaa has it)

Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Gere Fennelly plays regularly at Marie Callendars, the famous pie restaurant, on Wilshire Blvd. near the Tar Pits and LACMA. According to the Redd Kross website, she has an album out called Gere Played Piano under the name 88 Magic. She's great--she played at my best friend's memorial service!

Anna Waronker's band was that dog. Their last album, Retreat from the Sun was the only one I really liked. Look for the title song. They had too many cute boy/crush Ameritwee songs for my liking.

I prefer the McDonald Brothers songs ("Standing in the Wrong Line", "What's Wrong with Stephani", "Outer Circle") on the Ze Malibu Kids record, though Anna's cover of "You're So Vain" and her song "I Won't Forget You" are OK .

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

my favs are the 1st record/born innocent/teen babes/neurotica but the later stuff's pretty cool too. man i so wanna see the lovedolls movies!

d, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Does anyone have the 'Tater Totz' albums. I think theres 3 of them, though i'm not sure.

Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 22:27 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah i got 2 of em, i thought that's all there was? alien sleestaks from brazil & sgt shonen's exploding plastic whatever it's called. those're both great although i guess some of the jokes get tired

unknown or illegal (doorag), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 22:42 (twenty-three years ago)

There's this one--

http://www.surrealistic.org/reddkross/images/records/side/tt_cd_tater.jpg

Actually, I can't remember how much of it is live, really. I'll check when I get home. I know it's got their appearance at an LA Beatle Convention, where they got Jennifer Schwartz from the Love Dolls to sing "Don't Worry Kyoko" with them and were booed off the stage. Now that's CLASSIC!!!

Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 12 December 2002 00:08 (twenty-three years ago)

"Trance" and "Byrds and Fleas" are both fantastic songs. I met them when they came out to Australia years and years ago and they were absolutely lovely people too.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 December 2002 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)

does anyone know any info about the guy who played with them fairly recently (4-6 years ago) and died of a heroin OD? i'm trying to remember his story...

gygax!, Thursday, 12 December 2002 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Ed Kurdziel. See story above.
The band split when he died.

Peter M, Thursday, 12 December 2002 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Let me second just about everything everyone has said. I was wandering around the UCLA campus the day that they played a noontime set -- that's a photo of it on the inside of Third Eye -- and that was my first encounter with them, bless 'em. They were on the bill with the Butthole Surfers and L7 at that show at the Palladium in early 1991 where Kurt and Courtney allegedly first met; I just remember the band's hair being everywhere and their Good Times cover being the shiznitz that night in particular. Then there was the glorious Palace show with them in 1992 where the Muffs opened and Jeff got everyone to gleefully shout "Fuck you Steven!" to celebrate his birthday or something. Etc. Etc. Arthur, I will one day demand access to all your videos and films and things of them, I've seen NONE of them!

As for them glorious Tater Totz:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre200/e291/e29119kdbe4.jpg

Great album, I sez. How can you go wrong with an album where you get to hear Michael Quercio say during a cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows" "This is a song about control — my control!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 December 2002 04:08 (twenty-three years ago)

arthur arthur could you tape that 3rd tater totz for me????pls??

d, Thursday, 12 December 2002 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure, send me your address. I can copy you those Kim Fowley records, too, if you want.

Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 12 December 2002 23:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ok cool i will! thanks lots + lots!!

duane, Friday, 13 December 2002 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
CLASSIC!

Piers (piers), Thursday, 28 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
From the Redd Kross List.

Redd Kross will be performing July 1st at the Red Cat Theater in Los
Angeles, CA.

The Red Cat only holds about 200 people and tickets are NOT for sale
yet.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Just saw Steve the other night on bass with Sparks. He wears the mustache and soul patch surprisingly well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

Are you going to this gig, Ned?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:49 (twenty years ago)

'They seemed to have the same record and video collections as me and my friends, the same voracious, unashamed pop culture appetites'

Which is why they had such a loyal cult of similarly aged trash culture fans. To that small group, they were more than a band--more like a state of mind.

'do i have to mention DESPERATE TEENAGE LOVEDOLLS?!?!? and TEENAGE LOVEDOLL SUPERSTAR?!?!? '

Don't forget Spirit of '76 with Keith Partridge himself.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:44 (twenty years ago)

quite classic i should say

nude s*ock, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:47 (twenty years ago)

From their MySpace page (i know, i know):

"Now back in the studio, Redd Kross are working on a new release for 2006, and we are looking forward to it as much as you are."

http://www.myspace.com/reddkross

Really hoping for a tour if this is true.

cdwill (cdwill), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
July 1st @ the Red Cat Theater - your faves are back together: Jeff,
Steven, Roy McDonald and Robert Hecker!

http://redcat.org/season/0506/mus/knock3.php

Don't Knock The Rock!
http://dontknocktherock.com/

Roberts back!!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Saw 'em open for Sonic Youth (whom they way outshone) in Toronto in '90, and that was a show to remember! They stretched their final chord of the evening for what seemed like an hour (prob. more like 12-15 minutes, in actual fact.) Plus Steve made some onstage wisecracks about Klaus Nomi that SEEMED funny, even tho they went completely over my head. (I'd never heard Klaus's music before.)(Still haven't.) Great fun.

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Funny, I saw the same combo circa the Sister tour. Beyond that, The Spirit of '76, and that '93 album, I'll have to do some catching up... I do remember reading that a lot of Circle Jerks riffs or songs were originally Red Cross ones.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

So this is like the greatest thing ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPMa6k4mFk

As is the too brief bit of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIBgP0PLYk

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit. Need to here 'Annette's Got The Hits' and don't have it to hand.
Might go to pub.Do you think it will be on the dukey?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 3 May 2008 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjD5Nm75JfQ&feature=related

Sundar, Saturday, 3 May 2008 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Neurotica is one of the best albums of the 80s. And was the start of 4 classic albums

"Start" of 4 classic albums????

xhuxk, Saturday, 3 May 2008 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Just let it go, dude.

bamcquern, Saturday, 3 May 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

So is that first EP available ANYWHERE? What about the song "Rich Brat" from one of those "Life Is...So Why Not..." comp LPs?

sleeve, Saturday, 3 May 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

"Kill Someone You Hate" === Greatest Song EVAR

Smashing windows
with a baseball bat
=== Greatest Introductory Couplet EVAR

SecondBassman, Monday, 5 May 2008 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

OK I see Rich Brat is on some newish collector scum 7" EP of 79-82 stuff. But that first EP starts at $70 on GEMM, fuck. Can't they just change the name? Who has the rights to Posh Boy these days?

sleeve, Monday, 5 May 2008 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

TAKE ME TO YOUR COUCH BABE
RECITE SOME SIGMUND FREUD

Sundar, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

goddamm fucking bootlegggers. I bought that 7" through the mail and it basically says right on the back "sorry about the skip in 'Rich Brat' LOL".

buyer beware.

sleeve, Thursday, 15 May 2008 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Me + Toronto + Redd Kross = last Saturday night!

I've seen them many times before but not, obviously, this millenium. All their albums were represented (only Bubblegum Factory from 3rd Eye though) plus some stuff I didn't recognise which may well be new material but was also some obscure early stuff judging by certain crowd members' reaction. I missed Gerri on the keyboards but the huge bonus was Robert Hecker back on guitar. Jeez, this guy is a rock'n'roll guitar genius, even if he looks like a jazz nut with his white suit, silk tie and weird little orange guitar slung right under his chin. From power chords to manic shreds he ruled the show, and importantly prevented it from being a "McDonald Bros + yr granny = Redd Kross" type affair.

The brothers look older but not old. Steve's still only 41 and I guess Jeff's probably 44 now but it was just like the old days with sweat-soaked hair flying all over the place, synchronised headbanging and all the usual routines. It was a great, tight set - just a bit over an hour but they played tons of songs. None of those eternal endings or jammed-out Beatles covers. Then just to ram home the fact that they haven't changed, they closed the show with "Good Times" theme with Hecker taking the lead vocal.

This was the most jumping around I've done at a show in years.

everything, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome. Would love to see them again. I would imagine the older songs were from the red cross ep?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

I reckon so. They must've played about 6 real short songs that I couldn't place. I'm ashamed to say that I've got (a bootleg of) that ep, plus Born Innocent but probably only played them a couple of times each. My Redd Kross doesn't really begin until Teen Babes.

everything, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)

theres rehearsal footage where they play those songs last year on youtube.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

the ep is great. born innocent not so.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

Those old numbers sounded fantastic. Really sharp. I admit I was getting a little bit impatient when they played Crazy World and Pretty Please Me. I was thinking "fuck it's been 10 years, now I've got 75 minutes with you guys, why are you wasting playing these corny covers when you could be playing Monolith or Shonen Knife." Of course then they would launch into Switchblade Sister or something equally awesome.

everything, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Just found the first EP on the Killed by Death site. What an awesome six-songs-in-six-minutes that is. Don't think they were ever better.

ithappens, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

^

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

the ep is great. born innocent not so.

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, June 16, 2008 9:05 PM

wrong

jabbascript (am0n), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

born innocent is solid good, not great, not a patch on the EP

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Not listened to Born Innocent in years. Only one I can remember is Linda Blair.

ithappens, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

And out of nowhere:

Redd Kross is back and delivering their signature brand of genuine rock 'n' roll with a vengeance. On August 7, Merge Records will release Researching the Blues, the first new album from Redd Kross in 15 years.

Researching the Blues features 10 new songs clocking in at just under 32 minutes. With songs written by Jeff and produced and mixed by Steven, the album is by far the band’s favorite record. Steve says, “It has the most singular artistic vision of any record we’ve done. It’s just 10 really fucking awesome songs that have the ability to move you in many different ways.”

Founded 34 years ago in Los Angeles during the first wave of LA punk rock by brothers Jeff and Steven McDonald (then respectively 15 and 11 years old), Redd Kross cut their teeth opening for Black Flag at a middle school graduation party. Their debut recordings caught the attention of Rodney Bingenheimer, who quickly became a fan as he spun their Ramones-inspired songs like “Annette's Got The Hits” and "I Hate My School" on the world-famous KROQ.

In 2006, Jeff and Steven announced their reunion with the “classic Neurotica” line-up, joined once again by guitarist Robert Hecker (IT’S OK) and drummer Roy McDonald (The Muffs). Redd Kross have been playing to enthusiastic audiences at sold-out select shows and festivals such as the Azkena Festival; Coachella; The HooDoo Gurus’ Invitational, "Dig It Up”; All Tomorrow's Parties; and Pop Montréal. More Redd Kross tour dates to come this year!


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Track List:

1. Researching the Blues

2. Stay Away From Downtown

3. Uglier

4. Dracula’s Daughters

5. Meet Frankenstein

6. One of the Good Ones

7. The Nu Temptations

8. Choose to Play

9. Winter Blues

10. Hazel Eyes

Redd Kross is:

Jeff McDonald – Vocals, Guitars

Steven McDonald – Bass, Vocals

Roy McDonald – Drums

Robert Hecker – Guitars

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:20 (fourteen years ago)

I came here to post the press release Ned did... Can this possibly be good?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Perhaps one reason they've so frequently referenced David Cassidy, Linda Blair, Cowsills etc is because being in the late 70s LA punk scene and signed to a label age 12 and 14 gave them a similar perspective as these child stars. Steve has touched on not having a normal childhood in interviews.

everything, Monday, 31 December 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

Iirc, they were about 13 when they made Born Innocent? (Kim Gordon was almost 30 when Confusion Is Sex was released.) xp!

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 31 December 2018 20:58 (seven years ago)

Everything is probably right.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 31 December 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)

Is that for this thread?

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 December 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)

those reissues have been issued previously thru the mailing list but they deserve a wider pressing

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 00:31 (seven years ago)

At the concert it was wonderful to see every album laid out on the merch table, like a huge family reunion. Even as a long time fan there were some I'd never seen on vinyl before.

everything, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 01:34 (seven years ago)

two months pass...

they're playing twice today. friend called last night with a extra tik to echoplex benefit show that took a long time to get announced. they're headlining early and then i guess going across the street to another benefit (that looks potentially awesome as well) https://reddkross.com/
never seen 'em before and am quite psyched

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 24 March 2019 14:32 (seven years ago)

fun!! i wanna see redd kross! what is the benefit for?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 24 March 2019 15:08 (seven years ago)

echoplex show is benefit for original drummer (Janet) that has cancer. my friend donated to a gofundme in August, hence was given tix to this. the show @ the echo is a autism benefit w/ a pretty impressive lineup -Elliot Easton, guys from the dB's, Steve Wynn, Baseball Project, etc.

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 24 March 2019 15:19 (seven years ago)

:( poor janet
hope she recovers!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 24 March 2019 15:28 (seven years ago)

two months pass...

New album in August!

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 30 May 2019 21:49 (seven years ago)

O_O

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 31 May 2019 00:11 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

classic

unknown or illegal user (doo rag), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 04:54 (four years ago)

I was supposed to be seeing them in a week but they pulled the whole tour :(

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 10:20 (four years ago)

two years pass...

New album is fantastic. Best of the comeback albums for sure.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 28 June 2024 21:53 (one year ago)

Thanks for the tip. This is great!

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 29 June 2024 02:41 (one year ago)

New vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgY8fUz5d3E

nickn, Saturday, 29 June 2024 08:33 (one year ago)

I think they are are one of the all time greats

PaulTMA, Saturday, 29 June 2024 08:37 (one year ago)

gosh thats gotta be one of the best songs they've ever wrote. wow wow.

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 29 June 2024 10:34 (one year ago)

The whole album is chockfull of some of their best songs. Right to the very end of the album.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 29 June 2024 11:13 (one year ago)

My red vinyl arrived today

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:01 (one year ago)

holy cow! i had no idea. amazing song!

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:13 (one year ago)

The whole album is amazing and these aren't even the best songs on the album!

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:46 (one year ago)

sweet, i'm checking it out for sure. they're playing my city soon, has anyone seen them?

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:48 (one year ago)

Not since the show world album where I saw them twice in Glasgow. They only played here once since then (supporting Melvins)

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:53 (one year ago)

I got into them in 1998 so had to wait until the Melvins support in Glasgow to see them, nearly 20 years. Was far far too brief. Could easily have taken another 45 mins. Ultimate music blue balls

PaulTMA, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:29 (one year ago)

https://reddkross.com/shows/

July & August 2024 North America shows

October and November 2024 UK and Europe

curmudgeon, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:35 (one year ago)

map I saw them in late 2019 w/Melvins, they were great, u should go

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 30 June 2024 02:21 (one year ago)

Goddamn this hits the spot

Mule, Sunday, 30 June 2024 11:07 (one year ago)

I cant stop playing it. The Shaman's Disappearing Robe is prob my fave track but there's so many!

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 30 June 2024 12:50 (one year ago)

That Mosswood Meltdown festival on Jul 6 has been streamed live for free on twitch before. They do sometimes block certain bands on the stream (Sleater-Kinney I think, a year or two ago). It's been on TheComplexSF, https://www.twitch.tv/thecomplexsf.

nickn, Sunday, 30 June 2024 21:46 (one year ago)

I had a ticket to see them in Brighton on their last cancelled UK tour but they aren't playing here this time. Might see if I can get up to London in November

Colonel Poo, Monday, 1 July 2024 11:31 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

this is such a triumph, brilliant hooks, so much fun

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 13:31 (one year ago)

three months pass...

Saw them this week. Absolute joyous blast.

Mule, Saturday, 26 October 2024 11:48 (one year ago)


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