Primal Scream.

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that travis record was disgrace, i bort it and took back to shopp ask them where is convoy gb and snooker loopie. he is imposters looks nothing like hairy monstar.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout

my favourite music-hackery story ever, i think.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper

i fear it will be.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"DEAR RICHARD THANK YOU FOR YOUR FANTASTIC REVIEW ON OUR WEDDING ALBUM INCLUDING C-AND-D SIDES STOP WE ARE CONSIDERING IT FOR OUR NEXT RELEASE STOP MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THEY ARE THE BEST SIDES STOP WE BOTH FEEL THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A CRITIC TOPPED THE ARTIST STOP WE ARE NOT JOKING STOP LOVE AND PEACE STOP JOHN AND YOKO LENNON"

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Still absolutely the worst band ever.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

As the person who gave M t-d the 30 second loop version I must add my shame and apologies before I delete the relevant files. Must confess that I'd listened to the album twice in the background and not noticed, but I was a bit confused when I checked out the supposed highlight 'Over and Over' which is a duet with Linda Thompson and couldn't hear her at all. Obviously she doesn't appear in the first thirty seconds...

canfan, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Yes!

Why does XTRMNTR get such props? It sounds like a parody record (Shields remix aside).

Venga, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

what's wrong with parody?

blueski, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I love HM Bateman. Primal Scream, I can take or leave, though was pleasantly impressed by them on Johnny Ross last Friday night.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR still sounds like a dope pop album to me. I think it sounds different stateside where you don't get any bullshit promo for this band unless you seek it out---from what I gather, the band is pretty overbearing.

Euler, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

The lyrics on XTRMNTR make Rik from The Young Ones look like Friedrich Engels.

Venga, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

SYPHILITIC SWASTIKA
SHOOT IT INTO THE SUN
HIGHER THAN THE SICK SICK SUN
FUCK PARALYTIC DESTROY
I LOST MY GIRL TO A NAZI BOY

Just got offed, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

So Beautiful Future is rubbish, right? I've not heard it yet but a five-star OMM review is surely a good indicator... Anyway what do people think of the Andy Weatherall remix of Uptown? It's the best thing I've heard in ages...

Kaliova, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Weatherall's Uptown remix is fantastic, and the album is not. It spurts to life in a couple of spots, but there isn't much to recommend it.

Millsner, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

on a first listen, this is underwhelming as fuck. "glory of love" is OK once but THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS is taking the piss.

it sounds like an album without any balls. none at all. not even one really malformed one.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

^ OTM. It's not so much that the album commits any musical crimes, but that it fails to engage on any level at all.

Millsner, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Top Tory broadsheet music writer I, ALEXIS likes it not (he does have a point though).

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Point? I think he's spot on!

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

1) Screamadelica is their most celebrated album.

2) The album with the least singing/lyrical content from BGill is....

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The crass Crass remark suggests that he'd think the same no matter who sung or wrote these sentiments or how they were performed or sung. Socialism is so irritating and unsexy, darlings...

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Tim Burgess was repping Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean:

Tim Burgess was repping, as a rapper would say, Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah yes, non-tax paying American citizen Tim Burgess...

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that guardian review a lot.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

can i just say re tim burgess : umm wtf is with the new haircut ?
just looks soo wrong.

mark e, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Petridis so read the ILX reaction to his review of whatever the last Primal Scream record was called. I remember people posting "omg *obviously* he thinks its shit even if he isn't saying so" and "has any band ever had such a free pass from the music press as Primal Scream?"

Matt DC, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

He hates us but can't live without us.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

(Take yr point about the Crass mention)

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Burgess' haircut is officially the worst haircut since John Mills in Hobson's Choice.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Hisa new haircut is coz he is hanging out at The Old Blue Last w/The Horrors and etc and is having a mid-life crisis of relevancy.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

wig morelike.

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, Bobby invented the commune notion which Crass later adopted when he put some string around his pram on a day out at Bothwell Castle, opened a tin of cold baked beans and said ye cannae come in.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahahah

Bimble, Friday, 18 July 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

of course they do! they're hailed as this swaggering bunch of spirit-of-rock hedonists, who -- when they weren't busy ROCKING or LIVING ON THE EDGE -- invented THE 1990s AS WE KNOW IT, etc. when was the last time you saw a piece saying: "fucking hell, these increasingly irrelevant old tools should swivel?"

grimly fiendish, Friday, 18 July 2008 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

last time? Upthread, probably.

first time? Hmmm......

(Well, it was "Give out but" obv)

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It works for them though - Primal Scream manage to appear second on the bill at every festival despite drawing a modest crowd each time and not really being that popular.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The low point of the album has to be their cover of Hawkwind's 'Urban Guerilla'. This was mildly embarrassing when Hawkwind wrote it (35 years ago, if memory serves, I bought a copy because it was kind of notorious). Now it's seriously embarrassing.

canfan, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The Hawkwind original is great! NEVER wanna hear the Primal Scream version.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

But Bobby wrote the song especially for Hawkwind after he'd watched the Magilla Gorilla cartoon on the Glen Michael Cavalcade. He wasn't too chuffed when they got the spelling wrong.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

That petridis review is pretty decent, eh? He's OTM about a bunch of stuff that's annoying about them.

First negative review I've read of one of their albums in a mainstream publication since their second album. There's got to have been some extra-musical shenanigans going on behind the scenes there.

Pashmina, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link

he is, as a rapper would say, all up in your grill

i know it's the Guardian but srsly, time to stop doing this

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

That album should have got a post-Lee Hazlewood review of "give up".

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

as a rapper would say

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link


Studio albums
Sonic Flower Groove (1987)
Primal Scream (1989)
Screamadelica (1991)
Give Out But Don't Give Up (1994)
Vanishing Point (1997)
XTRMNTR (2000)
Evil Heat (2002)
Riot City Blues (2006)
Beautiful Future (2008)

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

As a rapper would say: “He’s one of the best that did it.”

i don't get this one

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

stevem: http://www.mp3lyrics.org/x/xzibit/double-time/

CharlieNo4, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

-- Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:24 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I don't recall too many raves for that one either, but I don't recall any slagoffs (and it was a shit album) and I do recall a lot of scribes making excuses for them over it.

Pashmina, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Petridish should get a two-month grace period from ILX slagging for that review, the rapper line is the only cringer

energy flash gordon, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, there are shit bits in Islington, but Bobby G doesn't live in one of those.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't recall too many rave reviews for Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel And Kate Bush or whatever their 1994 album was called.

Think Select gave it 5/5 originally and Q gave it 4/5 (thats not saying a lot tho).

To be fair, there are shit bits in Islington, but Bobby G doesn't live in one of those.

I used to walk past him on the way to work when he was taking his kid to school. Son always looked spick and span with his blazer, cap and satchel. Dad always looked like shit.

Discordian, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link


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