Sonic Youth new album "Rather Ripped"

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Haha, I thought ILM loved MOR pop ballads.

"aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio"

Come on Matthew, do you really think they're "aiming" at this? I think they're just doing what they want.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

geeta OTM. Please tell me they're not using this cover (just because, yes, it seems so wrong for their sound).

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Tim, let me put it another way - Sonic Youth are still making music that seems cool, whereas R.E.M. seem to be going out of their way to make the least cool music that they possibly can.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, that looks like the opening credit sequence in David Cronenberg's Spider as depicted by a Hellcat records graphic artist.

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

http://www.murmurs.com/talk/attachment.php?attachmentid=44582&stc=1

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: If they write a song as good as "I Wanted to Be Wrong" or "Aftermath," I'd like to be notified of that as well.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sort of fascinated by the lyrics to "Or." The verses seem totally unrelated aside from the "or" question at the end, but they are both pretty evocative. There's some really odd semi-pervy schoolgirl imagery in that first verse...

In your mouth, a wad of cash
Moist roll of hundreds
Fingers through your hair
Silver quarters drop
To your pleated skirt
Cannisters of whipped cream
In your sweater pockets
A look of space and total life
Ready....or......not

The plan is to go to DC and hang out
Go see girls rock
How long is the tour?
What time you guys playin'?
Where you going next?
What comes first?
The music...or...the words?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to tim: is that the riddler?

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking like that, I'll leave.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the Sister-like guitar part in "Reena" that starts 2mins into the song - goosebumps...

willem -- (willem), Saturday, 15 April 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

this record makes me happy. also, why are there some serious VU moments on here?

mts (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 April 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a guitar part in "...Rapture" that is very late period Velvet Underground. I'm really happy about that, for some reason.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

this record presents the best Kim Gordon's songs in years.
she rules this one.

observer server, Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

hey,it's been more than 2 hours since the last post!
a new record..
does it mean u dont have nothing to say anymore?
no way.

xonics, Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

some of us aren't on the Oink pre-release leak gravy train.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i like old fashioned people.
they are cool.
like old fashioned bands are..

xonics, Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: If they write a song as good as "I Wanted to Be Wrong" or "Aftermath," I'd like to be notified of that as well.

There are about 20 of them on the last couple SY albums.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! yay!

"Reena" is terrific. This all sounds very late 80s/early 90s SY, a good thing. It's not surprising or risky or difficult or groundbreaking at all, but I like it so much that I don't care. It also sounds like late-70s rock & pop FM radio.

xero (xero), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

finally heard it. so mellow and laid-back and pretty! perfect music to ring in the summer.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

So like is this currently only available at 128kbps? on purpose?

Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, if people are going to leak anticipated albums, they may as well do it at lower bitrates.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

listening to 'Nurse' right now. Looking forward to getting my legal copy before i hear anything of 'Rather Ripped.' Worth the wait...

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, I love you Tim, but ask any nerd, there's a difference between "weird" and "cool."

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?"

is that the d00d from Psychotica?!!

had the weekend w/ this album- definitely laid back! not in a bad way. the most agreeable kim songs in a LONG while. i really wish they'd just let Thurston sing everything. his voice's just too perfect. otherwise this album's really seeming like a continuation from the last 2. not bad, not earthshattering. i'd like to see em play it live.

eedd, Monday, 17 April 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i really like lee's track on this.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Lee's tracks are always great.

Now that I've had 5 or so days to chew on this album pretty well, I've convinced myself they haven't made one this wholly appealing (to my senses, anyway) since Goo. Murray Street came the closest I guess.

I'm almost embarassed to admit I've never seen them live, but I think this year will be the year. I absolutely must see these songs performed.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh Johnny, you've really been missing out all these years! I've seen them a whole bunch of times in the past eleven years or so, and they are always fantastic. You won't be let down, definitely make the trip.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Tim, let me put it another way - Sonic Youth are still making music that seems cool, whereas R.E.M. seem to be going out of their way to make the least cool music that they possibly can.

One can interpret this in a number of ways.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

a banal,mediocre indie record by a banal band, that should disband already.
am i the only one who see it?

some changes that sonic youth should do but never will of course:
-change the drummer! those drumming schticks are cliche's and boring.
steve shelly is not a good drummer, face it.
-get a new producer, but not an obvious one, that will break them new grounds, (like phil spector with the ramones or something)
-play guitar as they used to in the 80's - is this really thurston moore and lee renaldo - 2 of the greatest guitarist ever playing here?
or maybe they just got older...

but i guess im in the minority - lots of people will buy the record, and everyone will be happy, and earn more money.
sorry to ruin the party.

my life with the, Monday, 17 April 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yes they should break new grounds like phil spector with the ramones

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Sonic Youth should do an album with Diplo and Danger Mouse.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

that will break them new grounds

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

they did a song with "Cypress hill" once..

foody, Monday, 17 April 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

What's Chuck D doing these days?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

-get a new producer, but not an obvious one, that will break them new grounds, (like phil spector with the ramones or something)

'cause i mean no one's ever heard of phil spector! ah, anonymous posts, i ruv thee.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

-play guitar as they used to in the 80's - is this really thurston moore and lee renaldo - 2 of the greatest guitarist ever playing here?
or maybe they just got older...

do you listen to the record or do you use it to wipe your ass? if you listen closely all the noisy bits are constructed out of the strumming they picked up with branca and whatnot. the full on noise freakouts are awesome, i agree, but it takes a lot of wizardry to constrain them into a more standard song structure.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"do you listen to the record or do you use it to wipe your ass"

after listening to it, i would, but metal is bad to my ass.

i don't care if they are wizards, genious or gods, the result is not so good,thats it.
"wizardry to constrain them into a more standard song structure" is a theoretical,technical stuff, that doesnt concern or impress me as a listener of the final result.
i mean they could invest, for example, a million dollars in the production, and even som it might sound like shit , so what?


my life with the, Monday, 17 April 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Shelley is a fantastic drummer.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

My Life, how would you describe the album that you wish Sonic Youth made?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Keith Moon is a fantastic drummer. Jaki Liebezeit is a fantastic drummer. Steve Shelley is "fantastic?" I have not noticed this.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Have you ever seen a Sonic Youth show, Tim?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

At very least, Steve Shelley is the perfect drummer for Sonic Youth.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I have, Matthew, yeah, a couple of times.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Shelley is the perfect drummer for Sonic Youth.

truer words etc. etc.

I actually like Shelley's style a lot. Deceptive simplicity. Not every situation calls for effing Neil Peart.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

No, but every situation does call for CARMINE APPICE.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve's really good at playing with the band and adding really clever stuff to the dynamics of the guitars without overshadowing what the other players are doing. He's great at keeping time, which is more important in a band like SY than most others. He's great at improvising - unlike a lot of other bands who fall into a rhythmic groove and the guitarists just take solos, he has to come up with interesting percussion bits on the spot. His drumming style isn't showy, but it's very recognizable, especially when he gets into his signature gallop. He can also rock pretty hard.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Sonic Youth have done what I thought was impossible in 2006: made an indie rock record that does not suck cocks in hell.

ks, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Another Steve Shelley trick I love is playing drums with a stick and a maraca. See Dirty Boots and Bull In the Heather. Shakey shake!

stew!, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"do you listen to the record or do you use it to wipe your ass? if you listen closely all the noisy bits are constructed out of the strumming they picked up with branca and whatnot. the full on noise freakouts are awesome, i agree, but it takes a lot of wizardry to constrain them into a more standard song structure.
"

might be true, but they done it a lot before, and "rather ripped" doesnt add changes to the formula.it has just become repetetive and banal.what once sounded revolutionery, now sound basic.as always..

going through c, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't wait till 13 June. (You biotches, getting it early!) What is the cd duration? (This is important to me, hahahaha.) I think both Murray Street and Sonic Nurse were wonderful albums.

Darren Skuja, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link


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