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to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

God, the Elvis version of the title track of LAGWAFIS is still *amazing*, although looking at the tracklist doesn't make me want to listen to anything else on the album, really.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

lord i have a broken heart?

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the Elvis version slays.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Just been reading the other (numerous) Spz threads. The vitriol being flung at LICD is -just- amazing. Worse, I even caught Aussie Jim saying that 'The Twelve Steps' was his favourite late-period Spiritualized song! Others have claimed that 'On Fire' and TTS ae the only songs they like from that album (whereas were I to have my way and those songs removed the album would IMO be a near-perfect document of Pierce's strengths at time of release).

I've listened to LAGWAFIS right through now, and yeah, it's pretty good (highlight being 'Home Of The Brave', which is the only one here that significantly improves upon its own live version), but not exactly great. I'd still put Pure Phase at the top, followed by LICD, then probably the Albert Hall, then LAGWAFIS and LGM tied in last place (rly) (still good though!). I have no plans to buy AG.

It probably helps to know that Pure Phase was for a long time my only taste of the band.

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably being harsh on LGM, actually. It can happily scoot ahead of Albert Hall if it likes.

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah everybody here hated LICM - NO FAIR!

(my favorite song is actually "Do It All Over Again" - beautiful little Phil Spector/George Harrison pop ditty)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf is wrong with you people, LICM is amazing

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

LICM?!

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

D

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

LIC on Ts

slackety yax (H2-H4), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

shakey right about 'stop your crying' being a bad choice as single, it turned me off getting this (great) record for two years or so.

slackety yax (H2-H4), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucked Up Inside is their best record.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucked Up Inside was recorded on November 21, 1992 at the Hollywood Palladiumin Los Angeles. This was during the Rollercoaster tour with Jesus and Mary Chain plus guests. It was an amazing show but the headliner was by far the best band of the evening.

I have seen them about six times and every show was great even when they opened for Radiohead in 1997/8. The only album I don't like was the last one, hope he does better next time around.

Glad you came out of it Jason, we need you around a bit longer.

Bee OK (boo radley), Saturday, 20 January 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucked Up Inside was recorded on November 21, 1992 at the Hollywood Palladiumin Los Angeles. This was during the Rollercoaster tour with Jesus and Mary Chain plus guests. It was an amazing show but the headliner was by far the best band of the evening.

The bill should have been reversed. JAMC opening. Curve next. Spiritualized closing.

Trivia: One of the dazed audience members hollering on FUI is me! I think Ned was at that show too...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 20 January 2007 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis is dead to me now.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 20 January 2007 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, if I'm not convinced on first listen that's often a good sign! I think it'll take a few spins before the album's flow and method sinks in. It was actually pretty good, just that I'm loath to rate it ahead of Spz albums I've known and loved for longer.

Oh, and if this helps return me from the dead, I've bought and appreciated that new Acoustic Ladyland record, so your gospel hasn't fallen upon deaf ears!

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 20 January 2007 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

There was an odd incident at head-fi.org when I recommended someone the Acoustic Ladyland LP, and someone else was like, "wow, do you read Stylus, I'd never have heard of it but for there" and I said "actually I wrote that". Most odd.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 20 January 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

He woke up!

From: Spiritualized

Date: Sep 13, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: New Shows and New Info!
Body: The album is FINISHED, and I should hopefully be posting a track from the new album soon! To celebrate, there have been new shows posted in Spain, Denmark, and the UK, with several in planning for the USA.

Spiritualized Acoustic Mainlines will be playing their last show for
some time on December 9th at the Union Chapel, London, N1 2XD. Tickets,
£19.50 on sale Monday Sept 17th from:
Box Office 0870 400 0688 & www.livenation.co.uk

Stay tuned for more info!!!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Between this and the new Spectrum album it's a good day in Rugby

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 September 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

When does the Spectrum come out again? (And what label?)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 September 2007 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Acoustic Mainline show in SF Nov 11 just announced, will be my first time seeing them in a few years. Last show I saw was surprisingly disappointing (he forgot lyrics, drummer missed a bunch of cues, etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 8 October 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

A truly massive "Thank You" to all the Medical Staff and Nurses at The Royal London Hospital A&E, Cambridge Ward, Intensive Care and Critical Care / Cotton Ward whom all worked so amazingly hard on his treatment and recovery.
And the new album is called... Songs in A&E.

Ian Edmond, Thursday, 21 February 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Lordy Spiritualized are a boring band.

chap, Thursday, 21 February 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa. this means he was on my road for a while...

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

the Acoustic Mainline show I mentioned above was great btw

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

new sogns were really good

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

New album: 'Songs in A&E' due out May 19th.

New tour dates are all called 'Electric Mainlines'.

I didn't expect I'd end up being excited about Spiritualized again.

Bocken Social Scene, Friday, 22 February 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a funny feeling this will be more snooze-inducing than my anaesthetics database. But that could just be me.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 February 2008 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Not arsed really. He's been essentially rewriting the same songs since 1991 and the arrangements have been getting increasingly predictable since 97. This is going to be a stripped down affair, isn't it? Which makes me wonder why anyone would bother.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 February 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

the Acoustic Mainline show I mentioned above was great btw

I agree. They could have done with varying the approach a bit - it got predictable after a while - but it was a beautiful night.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 22 February 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Not arsed really. He's been essentially rewriting the same songs since 1991

more liek 1987!

but in general he's getting on a bit to be singing about what he sings about (being useless owing to heroin addiction). as with bobby gillespie (being awesome owing to heroin addiction).

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 22 February 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Great, now I'm imagining their "Come Together" mashup.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

The thematic content of Spz songs is utterly unimportant. I could care less if he's singing about drug addiction or dressing up his drummer in his girlfriends' frocks so long as it WUBS.

What makes or breaks a Spz album is the interestingness of the people playing with him, and how much free rein he gives them. Which, since the contract/sacking incident is about 0. Hence the snore-inducing factor of the album.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^could not disagree more - he's had a rotating cast of inconsequential sidemen since day one.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Lupine Howl lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracklist (allegedly);

'Harmony 1'
'Sweet Talk'
'Death Take Your Fiddle'
'I Gotta Fire'
'Soul On Fire'
'Harmony 2'
'Sitting On Fire'
'Yeah Yeah'
'You Lie You Cheat'
'Harmony 3'
'Baby I'm Just A Fool'
'Don't Hold Me So Close'
'Harmony 4'
'The Waves Crash In'
'Harmony 5'
'Borrowed Your Gun'
'Harmony 6'
'Goodnight Goodnight'

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Spacemen 3 fan from way back, but I haven't been interested in Spiritualized since Ladies & Gentlemen... & the Royal Albert Hall live thing. Great records, but Jason's a one trick pony, and like w/ Stereolab, you reach the point of diminishing (or zero) returns after a while. "200 Bars" is still an all-time favorite, for reasons I don't fully understand.

Masonic Boom crazy off the money mark in every respect, but oddly accurate with regard to the pull-date.

contenderizer, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Hope I'm wrong and that the new one crushes me.

contenderizer, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I think he hit a bump in the road with Amazing Grace but Let It Come Down is a fantastic record, and lyrically/songwriting-wise he's certainly grown more clever/wry since his early days so I still have some faith.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

(altho no I'm not expecting to be "crushed" either honestly)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

The trouble with the straight and the narrow
Is its so thin I keep sliding off to the side
And the devil makes good use of these hands of mine

And if jesus is the straight path that saves
Then i'm condemmed to live my whole life on the curb
On the crossroad to the devil, I'll dwell and i'll count my years

You know that I got a little something I should say
I guess that I'm just so easily led astray
It's alright because I know my own way back home from here

And I don't fall of the wagon you know
I take a dive and go as deep as I can go
Don't hold your breath because I'm coming up slow, this time.

^^funny

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

So why is every album except the one recorded with all the same people from Spacemen 3 shite, then? Eh?

Oh wait, you all started with this band around LAGWAFIS. Say no more.

Jason Pierce has been writing the same song for the past 20 years. What makes them better is who else got involved. The moment he started bringing in the session players and letting no one else have a say, it started getting less and less interesting.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

oh fuck you I've been listening to Spiritualized since the Feel So Sad 12" and was a Spacemen3 fan before that

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no problem with people writing the same song for 20 years - viva la Ramones etc

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

So why is every album except the one recorded with all the same people from Spacemen 3 shite, then? Eh? Oh wait, you all started with this band around LAGWAFIS. Say no more.

Jesus Christ. I took issue w/ your description of the sidemen in question as "interesting", and don't believe they were ever given free reign, even in Spacemen 3 (whom I've loved since the Glass days).

And the lyrical content is hugely important, no to me personally, but clearly to Jason. It's not as though those words are just grafted on top of music that doesn't live & breathe the same themes. Everything works together, and that's what makes them great (when they actually are great).

That said, you're right, as I mentioned earlier. Something went out of the band around the time he sacked the original crew.

contenderizer, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean I honestly can't believe that Pierce's music was significantly improved by the genius-level input of the guys from Darkside and Slipstream and Lupine Howl etc especially when all those bands' own records range from the unremarkable to the unlistenable

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, considering I've actually recently sat down and had a conversation with said "sidemen" about how much free reign they *were* given in the early days of Spz, I think I might be more qualified to comment on that. But, you know, everyone has their own agenda.

x-post, actually I saw Slipstream a few weeks ago, and trust me, they were a HUNDRED times more interesting and memorable than any Spiritualized show of, oh, about the past ten years or so?

Sometimes bands are a magical combination of a certain group of people. Replace those people, and the chemistry is gone. This idea that it was all about Jason is a myth which he himself loves to perpetuate.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

eh diff't strokes, I guess

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Slipstream are still going?!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link


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