The Sundays : C or D

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classic.

just casting my vote.

andy dale (andy dale), Saturday, 12 November 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

absolutely classsic debut album. i still think if i'd heard COCTEAU TWINS first it might not have had the impact but still. totally the soundtrack to my firsl love aged 16. i was never a john peel fan as such, so them topping the festive 50 in 89 past me by. no i heard them first on the phillip schofield thuesday night radio 1 show. about as uncool as it gets you'd think, but that show also introduced me to THE THE so go as they say, figure.

piscesboy, Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I love R,W&A and Blind. Another good band in the way of The Sundays are The Innocence Mission

antonio, Sunday, 13 November 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe another album...!?

http://www.phpbbforfree.com/forums/thesundays-about13.html

doubtful, though.

andy dale (andy dale), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Mediocre Sundays (read: most of Static & Silence, and probably anything else they might put out this late in the game) is still a little slice of heaven to my ears, for purely personal and mostly indistinct reasons. Wheeler and Gavurin are just about the most perfectly matched pair in musical history, IMH(and probably not terribly widely-shared)O.

So yeah: very classic, and I'd love to hear another album.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Any Harriet Wheeler sightings? She looks like this, but add a decade and 2 kids. ;)

http://www.sundays.secret-hideout.com/img/harriet01.jpg

Dave M., Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't know the picture was that big. It's filling up my whole screen! Could one of the moderators take it down. Thank you.

Dave M., Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i can't sleep without listening to that moon landing song these days

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

the sundays are incredible.

the coda, the last four bars, of "hideous towns", are beyond music. they are magic.

the sundays are magic. too good to be true. incredible, etc., etc.

andi, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yes, "Hideous Towns's" ending is great.

Cunga, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes.

Bimble, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hideous Towns" is one of the most perfect songs ever.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

SO GOOD

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I listen to my "Goodbye" b/w "Wild Horses" single a lot.

wanko ergo sum, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the five of you.

andi, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I just love Harriet's lyrics so much - "I joined the army/but it drove me barmy" - who else could sing that so earnestly????

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Someone who's in Iraq right now? oh wait...

Sorry if this sounds snooty, it's not meant to and I wasn't trying to get political on anyone's ass either. I'm going to pull out Reading, Writing & Arithmetic right now. It's shine has dimmed over time somewhat, but I think a trip down memory lane with it can't be bad.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Also this will sound funny but it always reminds me of the chemistry lab I was in in college. I remember playing it on my walkman in that chemistry lab. It was absolutely stunning, couldn't get the songs out of my head.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 July 2007 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

>I listen to my "Goodbye" b/w "Wild Horses" single a lot

I went through a period last year of listening to Goodbye on repeat play - it would come round on shuffle and then I'd have to hear it several times in a row - by which I mean it's just heartbreakingly fantastic. The final section where Gavurin cuts completely loose and Harriet comes back in with "oh as the heavens shudder baby, I belong to you" makes this into pretty much the best single of the 1990s.

So erm, classic!

Bill A, Sunday, 29 July 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

omg i'm breakin out the cassettes!

i used to imitate professional ice skaters in my basement on roller skates listening to the sundays - ah the life!

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Reading, Writing and Arithmetic, to my ears, sounded like Cocteau Twins without Robin Guthrie's dreamy guitarscapes, but in their place something ordinary. Perhaps having listened to the Cocteaus before having heard of them ruined them for me.
-- acb (acb), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (1 year ago) Link

OTMFM

stephen, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

That comparison always strikes me as a bit odd actually. Where is the commonality? Not in the guitars, the singing, the lyrics, the song structures... May as well say "The Sundays, to my ears, sounded like The Bad Seeds without Nick Cave's unholy raving, but in their place something ordinary..."

Better comparison would be The Smiths crossed with Sugarcubes' "Birthday", surely.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nah, i get the comparison. if liz sang clearly around the time of heaven or las vegas, it'd be a pretty similar thing, i think.

and, what acb said and stephen quoted, i'm about to say this as a sundays obsessive (have their entire discography and about 10 bootlegs), that might be about right. but, that might also be part of what makes them great. but, hm, that's one to chew on.

andi, Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i always loved the Sundays much more than the Cocteau Twins. the performance worked better for me, and i was happy to not have the guitarscapes on Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. easily a favorite album from my youth.

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i heard sundays before the cocteaus, by the way. if that might matter.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i think the less lush design of Reading Writing and Arithmetic (sans guitarscapes) made it feel less cluttered and more pure to me. i liked that it wasn't doused in ambient guitar.

Surmounter, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

my post before my last is silly. replace 'heaven or las vegas' with 'four-calendar', even though the syllables were clearer then, too.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

this needs remastering!

and where can u get a cd-quality copy of DON'T TELL YOUR MOTHER in this day and age.

pisces, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

You can get it in most any dollar bin on the DGC Rarities volume 1 cd.

svend, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Or on Amazon.com for one penny.

svend, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

wow! DGC rarities eh? really? that's genuinely brilliant advice. great stuff thanks!

pisces, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha, dgc rarities is CLASSIC! deserves it's own thread.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

The DGC Rarities disc (volume one-and-only) is kind of great, actually! I found my copy a couple years ago and was surprised by how much fun it was to listen to. Teenage Fanclub, what might be Weezer's best song, a good That Dog track, St. Johnny sounding more like Dinosaur Jr than ever, a great weird Sloan thing, the only Hole song I've ever really liked ... I seem to remember even liking the CELL track on this.

nabisco, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, I must have found a NEW copy, as I'm pretty sure I had this on TAPE back in the day?

nabisco, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Beck's maybe best song ever, "Bogusflow"

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 30 July 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

um. yeah. i wasn't kidding about fucking dgc rarities.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

My January band for the last few years.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Good choice. :-)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm in a "I Kicked a Boy" kind of mood.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, I was born in that born.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

????

in that MOOD!

roxymuzak, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

You were born twice. A special birth.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

The rebirth of slick, like my gangsta stroll.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I Kicked A Boy!!!! gooood call

Surmounter, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

that album = this weather to the t

Surmounter, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, "I Kicked A Boy" is a damn good call! I tend to forget about that one. I should dig out that cassette download...

Bimble, Saturday, 5 January 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I Kicked a Boy is easily in the favorite three songs on the debut.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 January 2008 05:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I especially love "My Finest Hour" (esp. the end, SHIIIIT!) and "Can't Be Sure".

roxymuzak, Saturday, 5 January 2008 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic, i.e., I liked them and have since forgotten all about them.

M.V., Saturday, 5 January 2008 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

xcept of course I Kissed A Girl is like echoing in my brain whenever i think of I Kicked A Boy

Surmounter, Saturday, 5 January 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link


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