hs have you read [nabisco]'s piece yet
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 5 June 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link
That Diamanda > Timbaland thing linked way upthread is batshit but this line is A+
"The BIGGEST problem with your sampling, TOOL- LW(u)B(e), is that afterwards our music smells of your shit."
(no idea what TOOL-LW(u)B(e) means)
― this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 5 June 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link
nabisco's piece is really good, and o. nate is also otm with this:
I think MIA astutely realized that the vagueness around this concept of "terrorism" was a double-edged sword
i mean, piracy funds terrorism was a great, cheeky, punky title at its precise moment, and her positioning was definitely a response to the way "terrorism" was being used by the bush administration and western governments more generally, as a pretext for all kinds of neo-imperialist bullshit. otoh, responding to that is in itself basically accepting a western framing of the subject, and nabisco is right that her basic framing really is western no matter what kind of global-south persona she likes to put on.
on the other other hand, it's interesting to me how much all of this discussion really kind of mirrors the debates about the social relevance/responsibility of gangsta rap 15-20 years ago. in both cases you have artists indulging violent fantasies and adopting fashionably rebel personas, while insisting that they're just telling it like it is. (and you wouldn't understand, cuz you're not from the 'hood.) in that sense i think she's been successful at taking the gangsta template and expanding it to fit her needs.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 5 June 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
the lyrics to Born Free make it a better response song to the recent controversy.
― Armand Van Helden Vocal Remix (Spinspin Sugah), Saturday, 5 June 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, MIA isn't REALLY incendiary. It has like the tone of being incendiary, but saying, "I'm not pro peace, I'm pro violence," is pretty banal under scrutiny. Is she saying that she believes that political difference should be settled through violence and not compromise? Is she saying that all politics are founded on coercive power? Is she saying that all states have a history of violence that they cover up? Is she saying that genocide is good if you don't get along with the people you like? Is she saying sometimes it just feels good to hit something? I mean, it's sound incendiary, but it's not actually saying anything at all.
the whole "saying nothing" claim falls apart if you're pulling four distinct possible interpretations for an offhand NYT quote.
― blair x-soul (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jun/13/mia-feature-miranda-sawyerGuardian piece and whatnot.
― piscesx, Sunday, 13 June 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.7digital.com/artists/m-i-a/y/?src=HottestBoxuk
Snippets of every track right there.
― piscesx, Sunday, 13 June 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
really stoked for this. "tell me why"!!!
― exit through the (Tape Store), Monday, 14 June 2010 07:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rebelfrequencies.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-hirschberg-is-wrong.html
― bad fog, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Regardless of the crap nature of Hirschberg's article, the phone number thing was a straight-up dick move.
― Simon H., Monday, 14 June 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
A hilarious straight-up dick move.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 June 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
let's just keep repeating those two sentiments eternally.
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Monday, 14 June 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
"radical music journalism", eh
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 14 June 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
the only fitting sort to cover m.i.a.'s "radical political music"
"Regardless of the crap nature of Hirschberg's article, the phone number thing was a straight-up dick move.A hilarious straight-up dick move."
Does Buddyhead still post Fred Durst's new phone number every Ash Wednesday?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 14 June 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rebelfrequencies.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-hirschberg-is-wrong.html
Okay, as someone who thought the Hirschberg story was a piece of shit, I kind of feel obligated to tell this person that massively brownnosing M.I.A. will not convince her to fuck you.
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
What would M.I.A. think if Hirschberg had posted her cell phone number? Dick move?
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
M.I.A. doesn't use technology created by the CIA, duh
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
So any thoughts on the album yet? The two reggae-ish cuts are sort of weird, and I liked Meds and Feds better when it didnt have vocals and was called "Treats" but otherwise, it's pretty decent. Mostly unexpected/not at all reminiscent of the first two albums - a less direct/foreseeable step but a neat one nonetheless.
― Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link
It Takes A Muscle is a cover of.. this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVX5EH4lvs
― piscesx, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Supposedly this has leaked...and there's been no discussion. It can't be that disappointing right?
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I heard it leaked in pretty low quality.
Apparently I have "standards" about leaks.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i really don't think any conclusions can be drawn, at this point, about what the critical and/or popular response to the album will be. in fact, if i had to guess, i think the backlash against mia won't arrive until album no. 4.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ppl will care about the record itself for at least a week
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i rather like it. it's sharp and noisy.
― borntohula, Monday, 21 June 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― Alex in Montreal
Then you might want to listen to the source sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSuRHiW988
― Moka, Monday, 21 June 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I have! That was what I meant. I adore the Sleigh Bells LP and when I heard that Derek Miller would be doing some production on /\/\/\Y/\ I had anticipated Sleigh Bells-esque beats for M.I.A., not a straight rip of one of my favourite moments on Treats, marred by so-so vocals.
― Alex in Montreal, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
lol ok sorry, I sort of expected you already knew the source sample but didn't want to draw any conclusions since it seems noone else has mentioned the Sleigh Bells connection in this thread. Yeah, gotta agree MIA's vocals on this one are extremely lazy... feels like she's excusing her apathy by quoting post-punk.
― Moka, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean on the whole album, not just this song.
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/celebrities/201007/mia-profile
no mention of truffle fries
― johnny crunch, Friday, 25 June 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
When GQ asks me for a 7,000-word piece on M.I.A., I agree quickly. (M.I.A.—what fun!) The next day, I wake up with buyer's remorse. Did they say 7,000 words?
what the
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link
is that really
― super sl0cki double dare (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
who the hell is g4ry sht3yngart -- never seen that byline in GQ before from what i can recall
― ripe dick clark (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Novelist who wrote "The Russian Debutante's Handbook" and "Absurdistan"; some of his work has been featured in the New Yorker.
― o. nate, Friday, 25 June 2010 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
lol for all the similarities in our cultural interests jordan there are clearly some large non overlapping territories
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i don't read the new yorker
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
hes a pretty famous novelist
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, for a novelist
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I should write that line down.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe he should stick to novels
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
She also drops finer lyrics than just about anyone with a gold chain knocking against his chest.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it is
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
lmao super ilxor convo just there
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
xp
Seven thousand words, though. Holy shit.
For me, listening to contemporary hip-hop is just a way to summon an attitude, to blend in with a more powerful person's sense of himself and to pretend that I also possess some of that ineffable power
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i meant message board ilxor btw not ilxor 'ilxor'
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I think to myself, The refugee is strong in this one.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yo this is insufferable -- is this guy "famous for a novelist" to the point where he thinks it's okay to start writing about what he was like in college or?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link
like, it's not cute to be all "they want me to write so many words!" and then just write boring bullshit and then print it in a magazine -- this is why we have had editors
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Ice Cube seemed like he came from a world where the apocalypse had already wiped clean any vestige of hope—an exciting, existentialist posture for a 20-year-old cracker still unsure of how to play the opposite sex.
HOW AM I READING ANOTHER ONE OF THESE ARTICLES
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
he can peer right into Ice Cube's mind
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link