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Fuck it.

the way ksh has elevated from one of the worst posters to one of the best posters is a magnificent feat like Dr. Dre going from the World Class Wreckin Cru to The Chronic in the span of a month

wait do you mean "a magnificent feat like dre going from wreckin cru to chronic in a month instead of the 6 years it actually took"

If I relax my eyes, that looks like it says something about a truck.

Anyway, nabisco OTM, the end:

http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/7813-why-we-fight-4

nabiscos essay is v smart and i agree with it, but can pitchfork not afford em-dashes or something

nabisco i think is pretty much otm as usual, and i hope that his write-up re-frames the discussion from "wow look at the pop voice of the third world engorging herself in wanton luxury" to something more along the lines of "wait does MIA's imagery align herself with the oppressed or the oppressors?" which I think would make off-hand remarks about her 'incoherence' more, er, coherent...

wait do you mean "a magnificent feat like dre going from wreckin cru to chronic in a month instead of the 6 years it actually took"

that's exactly what that means, yes

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That's a terrific piece from Nabisco.

ksh that is obviously a fake Echo Chamber, there are 173 characters! O_O

u_u

lol strongo

wokka wokka.

i thought it was funny

shut up

love you too Jess

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no thanks

age and wisdom

can we get back to "truffle fries" now?

This thread is making me want to give war a chance.

so, MIA is like the clash with more colorful tops?

Pretty much.

If you go back to the NME/Melody Maker reviews of the second Clash album, you actually see pretty much the same arguments [nabisco] is making about casual use of revolutionary violence. It's Joe Strummer's Red Brigade shirt all over again.

nabiscos essay is v smart and i agree with it, but can pitchfork not afford em-dashes or something

I once asked Nabisco himself why Pitchfork's style is "blah blah-- excuse me-- blah blah" rather than "blah blah -- excuse me -- blah blah" and he said it had to do with line breaks (you wouldn't want to split one of those double hyphens), but yeah I don't know why they don't just use em-dashes.

i knew you'd be with me on that, jaymc

MIAdashes

this drives me insane.

trying to keep up with everybody's great jokes?

somewhere between lack of em dashes and m.i.a.

btw this week's Talk Of The Town section finally makes clear that in the New Yorker's style guide, 'douche bag' is written as two words.

new yorker's style guide is pretty wacky though, right? every issue i come across some new word that has umlauts, apparently. like just last week: "trüffle fries"

Yeah their umlauts crack me up. There's probs a dedicated thread for NYer style I suppose.

I love their tenacity with the umlauts, like they're worried people will read reentry rather than reëntry and freak out.

REEN-tree

COORD-inated.

"what in the hell does 'kewperate' mean!?"

It has something to do with noted devil dice artist Coop.

i LOVE the nyt diaeresis, really wish more publications would follow suit

Ha, Jaymc, that explanation basically comes from asking Ryan why it's that way -- I think it's a question he's answered a lot. As I recall, the answer goes:

(a) when he started the site, you couldn't count on browsers handling real em-dashes, hence the double hyphens
(b) if you spaced them out -- like this -- some browsers would wrap the line between the two hyphens, so it'd be like

blah blah blah -
- blah blah blah

(c) so he ran them up against the first word, to fix that

And I guess eventually it just became the kind of quirk you run with? I admit, at this point it'd be kinda weird to me to read Pitchfork and see real em-dashes.

hey the site didn't have videos of indie bands rambling on about their favorite tacos back then, either. GIVE US EM-DASHES.

ah since you're here nabisco, i liked your piece, but i still take issue with the "everyone realises that m.i.a. isn't a sophisticated thinker" line - i mean we do, on ilx, but most mainstream media outlets take her persona at unquestioning face value - she says she's a Political Artist with a Serious Message and mostly she gets reported as such, and the message itself or its presentation or most pertinently the actual LACK of message in her material is rarely interrogated. (the reasons for this are pretty interesting - i think a lot of arts editors and even music writers still feel a real need to legitimise pop artists by reporting their "serious"/political sides.) hirschberg wasn't "exposing" m.i.a. to music writers, she was writing for a general audience under the impression that m.i.a. is a sophisticated political artist.

that is all!

"she was writing for a general audience under the impression that m.i.a. is a sophisticated political artist"

Who? They believe what?

lol wtf Lex

most mainstream media outlets take her persona at unquestioning face value -

newsflash - most mainstream outlets take EVERY pop star's persona at unquestioning face value

Lady GaGa is WEIRD fyi!