No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

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"says the dude called pipecock.

-- J0rdan S."

so that must really get across how fucking bad he is, right?

pipecock, Friday, 2 November 2007 01:05 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I just figured out that the one-off Clipse/Grizzly Bear mashup he did uses the beat from "Shout" by Tears for Fears.

Also, someone (J0rdan S.?) said something on another thread about a new album. Any details?

jaymc, Friday, 11 January 2008 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it was on stereogum's list of '08 albums but after some investigation i found nothing else so i imagine they just fucked up

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

i mean unless it just *appears* on the internet one day, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't try and promote this one

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2008 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Just found this at the Paste website, of all places.

jaymc, Friday, 11 January 2008 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

weeeird

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2008 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

whatever happened to babedad

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2008 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

i hope i didn't run him off ilx tbh. he seemed like a good enough dude

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2008 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

a friend of mine has been sent this to review (its on its way uk-side via gronland).
the reaction :
"It's got to be the worst bootleg album I've ever heard.

mark e, Saturday, 12 January 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

Did he hear Night Ripper?

jaymc, Saturday, 12 January 2008 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

i can see a bunch of annoying bullshit following in GT's wake

Shameless plug: I have begun the trend. Shocktor Cosmo fans unite!

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 12 January 2008 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

so this thing exists huh

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 January 2008 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

getting pumped for the new one by jamming night ripper http://i3.tinypic.com/4bfnofo.jpg

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 June 2008 06:11 (eighteen years ago)

SUMMER

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 June 2008 06:13 (eighteen years ago)

btw his new album has the same name as the new gorilla zoe album lololol

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 June 2008 06:49 (eighteen years ago)

Def. excited.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589448/20080617/girl_talk.jhtml

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa! Forgot about this!

Tape Store, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

getting pumped for the new one by jamming night ripper

-- J0rdan S., Monday, June 16, 2008 2:11 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/paulownsmccain.gif

and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

haha this disc is great
i'm white btw

-- sleepingbag, Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:00 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Link

and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

saw him live recently, was easily the dumbest thing i've had the misfortune to witness in years. no, make that a year - since i saw YACHT (gag).

dude does nothing on stage (except taking his clothes off), the mashups are terribly mediocre, kids acting like it was the best thing the world has ever seen, and playing really weak Kelly Clarkson remixes? it would be a case of emperor's new clothes except..no one cares.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

See, white people listen to music like this: DOODEEDOODEEDOO I SHORE DO LIKE THIS FINE MUSIC YESIRREE
and black people listen like this: AWWWDAMN SURE IS FINE MUSIC YOUBETCHA
yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

the girl talk show i went to was basically a really fun party-- but then again im a "kid" and it was a show full of "kids" so let's lend no credence to the fact that we all had fun

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

this rhetorical trick is (c) moonship journey to baja but dave matthews fans have a fun time at his concerts too

deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

ILX, where people have to apologize for having fun.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

ILX, where accusing people of "hating fun" seemed like a valid arguing tactic for a while 5 years ago, and a proud few still bravely cling to the dream

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I don't remember the intricacies of the "hating fun" argument in this thread, nor to I care to read and/or re-read them. But using it to justify liking Girl Talk might be little more valid than using it to justify Casiotone For The Painfully Alone or jam bands or Andrew WK or some bullshit, considering dude aims to be nothing if not completely populist.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

it wasn't an argument on this thread, it was one of the pervasive neverending arguments of early ILM

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Who are you?

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

lol

deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

i'm white btw

jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

look, i'm not bashing people for having fun, but kids were acting like it was the MOST FUN ANYONE'S EVER HAD EVER. i'm talking like beatlemania crazy. crowd surfing, rushing the stage, dancing (or rather posing) on every elevated surface in the vicinity, complete crowd crush - its not like you could actually *dance* - i mean people were going bonkers. and i had an open mind about it - i like mashups if done well (and well to me means three elements at once, weird combinations that aren't supposed to go together, and *fun* - the nirvana/destiny's child 'smells like bootylicious' is a perfect example), and dude was just throwing hip hop acapellas over 70s/80's hits. putting a big fat kick under Kelly Clarkson isn't clever or even interesting or hip - that's a B-side Club 69 remix on the CD maxi-single. that's just lazy. add that to the fact that he seriously did *nothing* onstage, i dunno if he was just pushing play on ableton or playing a CD or what, but visually there was less to look at than a usual crummy laptop performance...

i feel that *anyone* could do what he's doing, and someone *should* come along and do it how it could/should be and steal this dude's fire.

i've been witnessing this phenomenon for years now and it used to be confined to frat/sorority types out at bars, typically wasted beyond words, and bugging out as if they're at the party at the end of the world. my friends and i used to call it 'imitating the time of your life' (can't remember where i read that) and that's what i felt happening at this GT show. i just kept looking around and going 'yeh, it's okay, but REALLY?'

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

me? I'm just some dude.

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

this is at the Movement Festival in Detroit in late May, BTW...

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

look, i'm not bashing people for having fun, but kids were acting like it was the MOST FUN ANYONE'S EVER HAD EVER. i'm talking like beatlemania crazy. crowd surfing, rushing the stage, dancing (or rather posing) on every elevated surface in the vicinity, complete crowd crush - its not like you could actually *dance* - i mean people were going bonkers. and i had an open mind about it - i like mashups if done well (and well to me means three elements at once, weird combinations that aren't supposed to go together, and *fun* - the nirvana/destiny's child 'smells like bootylicious' is a perfect example), and dude was just throwing hip hop acapellas over 70s/80's hits. putting a big fat kick under Kelly Clarkson isn't clever or even interesting or hip - that's a B-side Club 69 remix on the CD maxi-single. that's just lazy. add that to the fact that he seriously did *nothing* onstage, i dunno if he was just pushing play on ableton or playing a CD or what, but visually there was less to look at than a usual crummy laptop performance...

the second half of this is valid. i don't agree w/ you necessarily-- and ftr he says he does the mash ups live, how orchestrated they are in his mind, or repetitive from the night before is of course another story-- but at least it's a reasoned critique of his process and the quality of his work. hating on him as an artist bcuz ppl had more fun than you at a show is the same type of reasoning that leads too ppl hating deerhunter or w/e because how indie their audience is.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

i'm white btw

stephen, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i'm not saying that i was standing in a corner with my arms crossed watching people having fun and going 'SO STUPID' or anything like that. i was trying to get in the groove and the spectacle of it all at first was entertaining. i wasn't there to hate - i went accompanying a friend (pipecock's own sister if you're interested) who is much younger than me (her:22 me:34) who wanted to see what it was all about. so i went into it with a 'let's see what the big deal is all about'. i expected it to be silly and fun and sloppy, but i didn't really expect people basically screaming I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUCKING FUN OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.

but,like you said of your own experience - it was a fun dance party, i just don't think it warranted the extreme reaction.

as for him saying he does them 'live' - i flat-out don't believe it. half the time he was standing on a table on the stage taking his clothes off, or spouting off about how "they" told him he couldn't play Kelly Clarkson, but fuck that bullshit, here it is, IN YOUR FACE "THEM"!

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

wooo pittsburgh

jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

i went accompanying a friend (pipecock's own sister if you're interested)

pics?

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

how bout no.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

does she go by pipevag?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

she does not. she's actually very nice.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

just imagine pipecock's frustration at having a sister who likes GT. that should be enough.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

That's a fair critique of the live show, Andy, but what's your take on the album? I feel like most of it is composed of weird elements that aren't supposed to go together (even though it's all nominally pop music), and there's usually at least a dozen different samples in any three-minute chunk of the mix.

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

she does not. she's actually very nice.

-- BATTAGS, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

"actually"

deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I've heard a lot of terrible mash-ups that are just like slapping two songs together and seeing what happens, but Night Ripper impresses me in part because of how precise it is.

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

as for him saying he does them 'live' - i flat-out don't believe it. half the time he was standing on a table on the stage taking his clothes off, or spouting off about how "they" told him he couldn't play Kelly Clarkson, but fuck that bullshit, here it is, IN YOUR FACE "THEM"!

-- BATTAGS, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

challops as performance art

deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw he does let his samples play out much longer when at his shows, but i doubt that's battags' only real reservation w/ him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

guys don't be batthurt

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not Andy, but I guess I'm flattered that you would think so. Even though I am also a writer and I used to do lots of music writing. We do share a last name though.

The album is interesting, but it doesn't gel together enough for me. I think it lacks direction. I'll give him respect for crafting something so dense and intricate, and there are moments I enjoyed but on the whole the album went in one ear and out the other.

let me clarify what i said earlier about liking mashups whose elements aren't supposed to go together, taking that 'Bootylicious' one as an example: Great mashups to me have elements that shouldn't be together but sound *perfect* that way, like if you came into it not knowing either tune, you would think that was how the song was supposed to be.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

"actually"

You've *met* pipecock, right?

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)


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