MIA has made some good songs over the past few years as well.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
if MIA = KRS, i "can't wait" for 10 years from now
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
ughsiguhfiguhrfuh i know im not known for being an MIA fan so u might disregard this but KRS's career shits all over MIA's
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
you could say that, these days, they are both sounding a bit batshit & politically self righteous but thats about where the comparisons end
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
KRS's career shits all over MIA's
...this and more in this month's issue of "NO DOY" magazine!
― L-ZD Drownsystem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link
*both wear dayglo spandex
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link
oh hey whineys back
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link
http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kool.gif
― L-ZD Drownsystem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh Lord.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
that interview is very spinal tap in the way. it just. sort of. strings. random. words. together? with. ODD. inFLECTions. in the HOPES. that. something. interESTing. willcomeout.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nme.com/news/mia/51302
She added: "Everyone on the internet is like, 'Oh my God, come and join Facebook!' They’re all so optimistic… and really, everyone is fucking you up behind the screens. And I don't like that. It makes it difficult for me to interact with my fans knowing that. Google and Facebook were developed by the CIA, and when you're on there, you have to know that."
Amazing. She really is turning into the female Bobby Gillespie.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link
nice gif xps
mia is clever but obv a complete fantasist
of course not all pop stars shd be like that but it helps that a few are
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i find this woman annoying. the nyt piece isnt the best, its pretty obvious in how it wants to slyly show her up, but mia does talk a lot of complete shit. its so baiting. reeks of desperation to agitate and cause a fuss. she might have not had much back in hounslow, though ive a feeling it was more than she perhaps let on (the whole 'started from nothing' thing obv has a real attraction for her, prob from years of listening to hip hop), but now shes basically just a rich girl, living a pretty privileged existence, with some class guilt issues, a few dozen immature axes to grind (though this makes for good music, less good political interview quotes), and a rich white husband (funny how all her talk of 'IM FROM THERE I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE IM REAL IM REAL IM REAL' she hasnt married someone sri lankan or FROM THE STRUGGLE.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
"On several tracks, Maya even sings."
thats not new.
(this might have been commented on already)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - it seems ben brofman is mixed race, though my point still stands.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the turnaround from "untouchable rock critic golden child" to "hilarious, unlikeable retard" took only six years. Good job everyone!
― L-ZD Drownsystem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
how long did it take you again?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
(haha i don't mean that at all, but the set-up was too good)
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
damn stole my joke
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm just saying, her politics were vague and her interview quotes were nonsense in 2005, when this place was a virtual m.i.a. fan club
― L-ZD Drownsystem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
So, marrying a white person would make her less "real"?
― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Agree, that's bollocks. You're right about the rest though, and I suspect she's actually quite posh herself.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
no i said that for all her talk of embracing the struggle youd think shed move in with some dude living in the middle of port au prince or dharavi.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
who gives a shit jaypeg
she does mislead americans slightly about life in the hounslow 'projects' i think but none of this stuff matters
― transient truff (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
she didn't say she'd embrace the struggle with her vagina or anything
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
and diplos point about paper planes being a piss take of americas gangster-love was a bit lol - she loves that shit herself, blatantly, just like a million other kids of all classes do/did in london and around the world. she talks all this stuff up as being a critique but its also a celebration (which admittedly is prob what keeps me checking for her music), a lot of the stuff she says like when she talks about being a hooker or pregnant if she didnt get into art college sounds like she WISHES those were the possible outcomes she might have been faced with. but idk, as a fellow lower mid-class person of around the same age as maya, i dont imagine it being quite that bad. hounslow ISNT a rich area, not by any stretch, i lived there for a few years, but its not a complete hellhole either, its just a bit of a dump (like lots of places where white people have largely moved out of) around london where people are largely trying/struggling to get by. but unless its changed massively since i was last there, i dont think its crime infested or riven with dealers or anything.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
"she didn't say she'd embrace the struggle with her vagina or anything"
all struggles begin and end with the vagina.
now you're really projecting
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
that's so fucking sexist it's not even funny. "for all her talk of embracing the struggle, MIA hasn't even given herself over sexually to a freedom fighter!"
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link
and racist too, don't forget
― L-ZD Drownsystem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.slippinn.co.nz/uploads/images/Logos/2%204%201%20Tuesday%20logo.jpg
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god the vagina comment was obviously not serious.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
that isn't what i'm talking about.
also classist
― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
lamemism
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.1stchoicepools.co.uk/images/toys_3in1_250w.jpg
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
why does it have to be about 'giving herself sexually'? i didnt say she should sleep with an entire slum and make her their plaything did i?
but yes, i am a classist.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"hounslow ISNT a rich area, not by any stretch," he said, eating a truffle-flavoured french fry.
― transient truff (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
"chip"
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
oh youre right. it's in fact as wealthy as kensington.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
jokes bruv
i was saying earlier she's overdoing hounslow's project-ness
― transient truff (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway the best part of the entire piece is the bit about babies saying gaga no longer being innocent. she does make jokes after all.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
That was pretty hilarious, yeah.
― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i love maya though i do worry she might end up as sort of a bono type figure, rising out of a massive saddam statue on tour or something.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Factcheck. She was born in Hounslow but raised (after her return from Sri Lanka) aged eight. Also not riddled with drug dealers but she did grow up on a housing estate, so let's not got too pernickerty about exactly how much poverty and violence she encountered. @titchy, I don't understand where you're going with this "was she quite poor or very poor?" line of inquiry. In relation to her current life in Beverly Hills, it's still a big leap. Kind of ridiculous to argue she should have fallen in love with someone poorer and less white as well.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i forgot about the estate thing but tbh after her overstressing the details of her past as a way to determine her cred so much in interviews i do start to kinda eyeroll a bit and get a bit suspicious...
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
There are def irony lols to be had at the MIA/Bronfman marriage, but they're more in regards to her saying disingenuous shit like "maybe I can afford to book Dave Chappelle at the baby shower now" after her oscar nom than her commitment to "the struggle" or whatever.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
My point being, this line of attack is the same old tired bs as pointing out that Joe Strummer's dad used to be a diplomat - crying "fake" and "hypocrite" because someone isn't poor enough. She says enough stupid shit that this is really the least interesting and substantial criticism you could make.
Re: her Google/Facebook daftness, I just finished reading David Aaronovitch's Voodoo Histories, which got me thinking about why so many politicised pop stars shoot themselves in the foot by swallowing conspiracy theories wholesale. I wonder if there's a psychological overlap between the semi-justified paranoia of fame (yes, people really ARE looking at you and recording what you say) and tin-hat craziness about the CIA trying to get you. When you read old Public Enemy interviews, it's immensely dispiriting to see Chuck shift from a real grievance to conspiracy-theorist claptrap. There's enough genuine malfeasance out there - you don't need to start making shit up.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost. I think part of the problem is generational. She's trying to mix old-fashioned PE/Clash underdog rhetoric with post-gangsta-rap, "fuck you, I'm rich now" triumphalism, so you get this weird dissonance when it comes to money. If she were a little bit more articulate about examining this contradiction then she could avoid all these truffle-fry gotchas.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link