― djdee2005, Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
MANY (NOT ALL)
If needed, I will e-mail an mp3 of that on an endless loop.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005, Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― etc, Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link
people have been writing about how the album sounds, not just what it stands for, ever since the thing came out (all through this thread, and elsewhere). ditto justin's album, so i don't get that complaint at all. but that's just me. + "real world," "save a horse," and "wild west show" are three of the best songs on the album, to my ears. though it's still neat how people gravitate toward different tracks.
― chuck, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
i think an album can have enormous merit and *still* be sort of misjudged (not necessarily "overrated") by its critics on account of what it represents in the marketplace. but like i said, this is a skepticism i'm happy to put aside right now. i know many people have been writing about how the record sounds--the reason i'm more open to it than my reaction to the single would normally allow.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
This will sidetrack massively if I really get into it, but I'll just say that more than once I had a (completely individual) sensation that if that album didn't exist it would have to be invented, that it can be seen to function as a massive wish fulfillment of (in the VERY VERY broadest of terms) early 21st century teen-pop-into-hip-hop in the highest of profiles. Please note I say 'seem to function,' though, and that Chuck's observation is fully accurate.
As for Big and Rich again, they can't get loud enough for me. I want speed-metal chords as hooks next.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm betting it's Metallica's cover of Bob Seger's "Turn the Page." Which it doesn't sound like really, but ...Nevertheless, I'm having trouble getting overly excited about this album as a whole. There are certainly some fine songs, and I understand the thought process behind it, but ... eh. I guess I'll give it some time.
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 24 September 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Is genre-crossing all it takes to become the album of the year these days?
And didn't Kid Rock kind of do this already?
― I don't get it, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― big chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes he did. But Kid Rock is getting very hard to defend, because a lot of groups (Big and Rich especially) are doing what Kid Rock tried to do, except a billion times better.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link
That's Big Kenny and John Rich, with rappin' sidekick Cowboy Troy, who's black, which of course, is treated as a huge novelty. Billed as "country without prejudice" - in other words, country that recognises that other genres actually exist - this monumentally straightforward record's claims to innovation are like asking a woman to be wildly appreciative that her husband just about manages to cook a fry-up once a month. Horse of a Different Color sounds like Billy Ray Cyrus driving a juggernaut - that's how innovative it is. If you squint really hard you might just be able to convince yourself there's something faintly homoerotic about the whole ghastly enterprise, but that's pushing it. Actually, peek inside the booklet and you will find Kenny and John wearing Wild West-style dresses and, natch, ironic expressions. Like the Bush twins at the MTV awards, this is arch-conservatism in a half-hearted search for cool. Big? Almost certainly and hence, quite probably, rich too. Not, by any means, clever.
FIVE STARS
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Fatbelly Jones. Marcello...well, there's nothing to say here.
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I sent for a copy of the Big and Rich album and have listened to it.
Having done so, I agree with Mr Peschek's conclusions.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Like I said, it's okay to dislike the record. But you cannot "agree with Mr Peschek's conclusions," because he does not actually conclude anything. He just takes some cheap shots, ha ha wot a larf. It's adorable, just the kind of thing I need to confirm my favorite Guardian stereotypes, but it's not a review. I'd love it if you'd care to review the record, Mr. Carlin, because I know you'd back up your dislike with actual evidence so I could try to understand it.
It isn't even my favorite country record of the year, but it's NOT the Bush twins either.
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I do admit, however, that the website design and colour schemes could lead to ambiguity.
So the solution is for the Guardian Unlimited webmasters to redesign their graphics accordingly such that a zero-star rating can be interpreted as such, rather than a five-star rating.
I plan to return to considering this record on my blog, my arguments supported by quantifiable fact, in due course.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link